NBA drug policy is a joke

[Deadpool_X]

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Jazz fan???

Nice...

[biscuitsNgrady]

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Jazz fan???

LOL.

[takeanumber3333]

Jazz fan???

lol, that was great.

As for the thread, who cares if they smoke weed. The whole generation smokes, its not a big deal.

[Milkdud]

This is such a stupid thread, the current punishments are pretty darn fair IMO.

[pk00]

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I will respect no one that uses a drug and I would want them banned from any professional sport.

"it's a drug the majority of the American population wants to legalize"
Ignorant people would legalize it, just like alcohol.

what do you do when you get sick?

[Nate505]

It's a joke that there's any penalty for marijuana. Whether you think it should be legal or not (it obviously should), it's none of the NBA's business. It doesn't give an unfair advantage and has nothing to do with basketball. And it's hardly a drug associated with thugs.

The league didn't test for pot since the strike shortened season. The Player's Union is willing to use it as a bargaining chip, and the league can stand up there like Nancy Reagan and proclaim how tough they are on drugs.

Amazingly, without them testing for pot in the 80's and most of the 90's the league somehow managed to not only survive but actually had their best days. Of course, the lack of pot testing had nothing to do with that but it shows that having a test for pot is fairly meaningless and really hasn't accomplished much good for the league.

Although I hear that the percentage of NBA players raping white women and listening to negro jazz music has gone down dramatically since the testing started.

[Nate505]

Just to play devils advocate to all those who claim its only weed.

I agree with the main core of your argument. A player should be as sober as he can get on the court. But that doesn't mean the league should start testing for booze just because a player in theory could go out there and drunk on the court (like Keon Clark claimed he did). What shold happen is, like any other job, if your performance suffers you lose your job.

The legality of alcohol agrument doesn't fly here either. As a private entity the league could test for booze, although I doubt the player's union would agree with it.

[Nate505]

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Jazz fan???

Ironically, the Mavs/Rocketes/SPurs/Grizz play in states that actually have banned alcohol in certain areas.

There are no dry counties in Utah.

[BullSoxChicago'sFinest]

I think the point is in response to how those losers in Congress are acting about steroids. Do/should they care about the stats or results of a sport? No, their interest should be about the fact that using/trafficking the steroids is illegal activity, so why don't they do that with the rest of the drugs, somewhere the NBA would ring up huge. It's a fair point if you look at it that way.

And Stern is a douche, there's no doubt roids and HGH are in the league, yet he yelled at Congress last year, saying it'd be dumb to assume it'd help someone in basketball, since 'steroid only good for hit ball far', yeah okay, I'm shocked how something that would help you work out, recover faster, keep energy/stamina up, would help in a sport like basketball. Oh wait, it would be a huge help for anyone looking for those millions of dollars. Whether it's for battling for position down low, vertical leap, stamina, whatever, it's probably just as big in the NBA as MLB. And high schoolers coming into the league in or better than NBA shape, I'm looking at you.

[Hendrix]

I think the point is in response to how those losers in Congress are acting about steroids. Do/should they care about the stats or results of a sport? No, their interest should be about the fact that using/trafficking the steroids is illegal activity, so why don't they do that with the rest of the drugs, somewhere the NBA would ring up huge. It's a fair point if you look at it that way.

And Stern is a douche, there's no doubt roids and HGH are in the league, yet he yelled at Congress last year, saying it'd be dumb to assume it'd help someone in basketball, since 'steroid only good for hit ball far', yeah okay, I'm shocked how something that would help you work out, recover faster, keep energy/stamina up, would help in a sport like basketball. Oh wait, it would be a huge help for anyone looking for those millions of dollars. Whether it's for battling for position down low, vertical leap, stamina, whatever, it's probably just as big in the NBA as MLB. And high schoolers coming into the league in or better than NBA shape, I'm looking at you.

Did Stern actually say that? Pretty dumb if he did. Epo is used by marathon runners, and cyclists to up the red blood cell production in the body resulting in increased stamina. Test does the same thing to a smaller decgree but helps with recovery. HGH is the one I think would be the most benificial. Pretty much improves everything, cardiac output, stamina, recovery, etc etc. Would make a significant differnece for a 30 something having troubles grinding out the season, and pretty much make them feel like their 18 again.

[BullSoxChicago'sFinest]

Not that exact baseball quote, and not in his official testimony/little speech, but I remember when they were grilling him in the little Q and A, they ripped the NBA with the weakest program they had seen, and I remember him using that sort of defense, that there hadn't been a big incentive to improve since it wasn't as big an issue/effect in that sport, I think he quickly moved away from that though. I remember being off school that day (they had multiple sports in the same day), and thinking how lame that sounded

[BullSoxChicago'sFinest]

Here is the transcript from Congress who talks about the defense being used in their opening statement.
http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=854

Many NBA insiders

[Mad Mike]

Players who test positive for steroids or performance enhancing drugs, masking agents and diurectics get a 10-game suspension (1st offense), a 25-game suspension (2nd offense), a one-year suspension (3rd offense) and disqualification (4th offense).

Marijuana penalties are a $25,000 fine (2nd offense), a five-game suspension (3rd offense), a 10-game suspension (4th offense), and five additional games for each subsequent violation.

According to the league's collective bargaining agreement, a player can only be disqualified for a fourth positive test for performance-enhancing drugs, or a first positive test for "drugs of abuse."

We know Chris Anderson was banned for 2 years from the league because he did coke. David Harrison was suspended 5 games for getting caught the 3rd time.But anyways, the league's marijuana policy is still a joke. Guys like Allen Iverson and Rasheed Wallace pay $25,000 up front every year. So the thing is, you get a fine after the second time you are tested for it. As we know, the testing is random, does not occur very often (3 to 4 times a season) So players can easily get away with smoking pot regardless. The policy is completly ineffective. What Oakley said in 2001 is still true, half the league is on drugs. It's still true today.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2308918

"You test a guy, he gets high the next day," he told the New York Post. "There's no respect for the game no more."

http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/10555/

Notes: in 1999 , the league started testing for marijuana. Prior to that the testing was done for cocaine primarily.

got a link for this? if not than stfu.