Why did Golden State trade Richardson?

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Post#21 » by floppymoose » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:18 am

To get to the other side!
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Post#22 » by CupcakeNoFillin » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:18 am

Bucky O'Hare wrote:It's a shame Brandan Wright is such a horrible basketball player. Honestly, this kids no better than Marcus Haislip. Short, skinny PF with close to 0 skill. He and Corey Brewer are the busts of 2007.


LOL why are you so quick to call Brandan Wright a bust? You seem so eagar to see this young guy fail in life.

But yeah, how can someone even label Wright as a bust when he hasn't even gotten the oppurtunity to show what he got? Just because he isn't playing this year doesn't mean that he's a bust, he's a VERY young player.

Monta Ellis didn't play in his first year in the league either. Andris Biedrins didn't play at all the first 2 seasons of his career. Both have become pretty good players and few would label them busts. The same can happen to Brandan Wright as well. Only time can tell.
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Post#23 » by floppymoose » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:21 am

Bucky...
Brandan has a chance to be something. If you want to harsh on GS lotto picks, you can do WAAY better. Diogu, O'Bryant, Dunleavy, Murphy, and I'm just getting started!
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Post#24 » by CupcakeNoFillin » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:30 am

I think O'Bryant can actually become a great player in the league. Too bad he's gonna develop his skills on another team. :(
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Post#25 » by Supersonicas » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:46 am

CupcakeNoFillin wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




But yeah, how can someone even label Wright as a bust when he hasn't even gotten the oppurtunity to show what he got? Just because he isn't playing this year doesn't mean that he's a bust, he's a VERY young player.
because he doesn't really have any skills. Nothing stands out about that guy other than his wingspan.

Someone mentioned Marco B. came into the draft with alot of hype. I remember some people even picking him as ROY, based on his stellar summer league play against scrubs. Nellie thought he was ready for the NBA because of this, but later admitted he made a mistake. GS doesnt need em anyway cuz Ellis is the sh*t. Man he's fun to watch!

Turned out to be a great deal for the Warriors, so they dont have to worry as much about losing Ellis.
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Post#26 » by 76ciology » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:10 am

If I'm not mistaken, Brandan Wright was acquired to lure Minny to trade KG to them.
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Post#27 » by NO-KG-AI » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:44 am

Supersonicas wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

because he doesn't really have any skills. Nothing stands out about that guy other than his wingspan.

Someone mentioned Marco B. came into the draft with alot of hype. I remember some people even picking him as ROY, based on his stellar summer league play against scrubs. Nellie thought he was ready for the NBA because of this, but later admitted he made a mistake. GS doesnt need em anyway cuz Ellis is the sh*t. Man he's fun to watch!

Turned out to be a great deal for the Warriors, so they dont have to worry as much about losing Ellis.


Brandan is athletic, and has terrific touch around the basket, and a good hook with both hands which he can use easily with his athletic ability and wingspan.

His problem is strength really, that's about it, he could use a jumper too.
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Post#28 » by St.Nick » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:03 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Brandan is athletic, and has terrific touch around the basket, and a good hook with both hands which he can use easily with his athletic ability and wingspan.

His problem is strength really, that's about it, he could use a jumper too.



Thanks for setting that straight.

And may I add he is a very good ball handler and passer, plus can get up and down the floor amazingly fast for a big guy.

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Post#29 » by gswhoops » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:01 pm

crazylyf wrote:If I'm not mistaken, Brandan Wright was acquired to lure Minny to trade KG to them.

If that was the case, we probably would have taken Al Thorton (whom the Wolves wanted on draft night).

NO-KG-AI wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Brandan is athletic, and has terrific touch around the basket, and a good hook with both hands which he can use easily with his athletic ability and wingspan.

His problem is strength really, that's about it, he could use a jumper too.

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Post#30 » by spectre_ » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:38 pm

GSW = cap relief. How many teams can come along and offer the deal Charlotte did? They have their future to lock up soon and the owner is obviously averse to paying the luxury tax.

Charlotte = as Gibberish said positional need and someone who can score during our continuous droughts. Normally a team will have to throw an established player + a pick to get someone of Richardson's calibre; we only gave up a "project". Jordan did a great job of utilizing one of our very few assets.

As one of the posters who discussed a very similar deal with gswhoops and other GSW fans I'm just as thrilled now as I was during draft night. Richardson has been everything I'd hoped for and more. I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
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Post#31 » by 667Club » Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:46 pm

They wanted KG
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Post#32 » by CupcakeNoFillin » Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:57 pm

The Warriors did want KG, but they knew that they would still be a good team whether or not they get KG.

The Warriors had signed Brandan Wright to a contract last offseason, so that meant that they had to wait a FULL MONTH before they could trade him. Golden State had to wait until August 6th, 2007 before they could trade Brandan Wright in a package for KG. Golden State probably had the best offer for KG, it was just a matter of waiting a full month to get him.

Unfortunately, the Boston Celtics finally gave in and decided to offer Al Jefferson for KG. Had they not decided to give up Al Jefferson before August 6th arrived the Warriors would have gotten him. ahhhh oh well.
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Post#33 » by loserX » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:57 pm

Patterns wrote:And the Bobcats needed to do it because they had to be over the cap minimum. Good deal for both teams involved.


Just a clarification here...no team "has" to be over the cap minimum.

If a team is below the minimum, the league makes them pay out extra money pro-rated to the players currently on the roster until the minimum is reached.

Example: if the 'Cats were $10M under the minimum, the league would make them pay that $10M in bonuses to their other players. (If Okafor was making 8% of the team's salary at that point, he'd get 8% of the bonus, and so on for each player until the $10M was paid out.)

They didn't need to add salary...it was more a case of adding current talent at the expense of a prospect and caproom.
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Post#34 » by The_Believer » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:21 pm

Bucky O'Hare wrote:It's a shame Brandan Wright is such a horrible basketball player. Honestly, this kids no better than Marcus Haislip. Short, skinny PF with close to 0 skill. He and Corey Brewer are the busts of 2007.

Baron was labeled a bust his rookie year, look at him now.
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Post#35 » by floppymoose » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:29 pm

It's funny to hear him called short. That short player has the highest release point on his hook shot of any pf in the league.
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Post#36 » by Buck You » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:46 pm

So that they could get the next Wilt in Brandan Wright, duh.
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Post#37 » by yehyeh82 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:50 pm

HAHA, Bucks fan to the rescue. All us Warrior fans think he will be the next Wilt of course!
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Post#38 » by realfung » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:30 pm

J-Rich will not be a superstar but he is making a star money, that's why the W's traded him....

Not totally fot the right to Wright.
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Post#39 » by OptionZero » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:38 pm

Jason Richardson leads the Bobcats in FGA yet has the second worst FG% of all of their starters.

Perhaps they should reconsider their offensive scheme.

I don't think he's a particularly great player- he plays a ton of minutes on a bad team that gives him lots of touches. He tries to be active, which is why he has a decent rebound rate (nothing like before), but his on the ball defense is nonexistent, his free throw shooting is mediocre at best for a guard, and his handle and decision making are shaky.

Remember his block on Devin Harris? Certain youtube clips of it reveal the play leading up to it, when he hesitates with the ball before trying to flip a two hand underhand pass to Baron with Harris right in the way. Turnover.

Yeah, he's worth $12M.

Ellis makes $770K; Azubuike makes half that.

I will take 12 games over .500 with one of the lowest payrolls in the league. Cap health matters.

Richardson benefits from what I call "Jamison syndrome"- nice guy, good player on a shittastic team.

Jamison was a Warriors pick during the Dark Ages and was generally a solid character that worked hard and got some love from the fans. He was given a maximum contract despite not producing like a franchise player (no defense, low efficiency, uberactive garbage guy). When he was dealt, there were cries from the fans that management had backstabbed them. Well, Jamison's space was eventually used to get Baron Davis (via Dale Davis), and now one gives a crap about how we dealt him for garbage. (Conversely, no one in New Orleans regrets the Baron trade, given they got a high enough pick to score Chris Paul and cap space to sign Peja and Chandler and now they're among the West's elite).

Richardson will be a footnote in this two-year "We Believe" run, which I'm fairly certain will end when Nellie leaves (a different thread entirely). His production level and contract mean he's destined to be the "star" of a buncha mediocre teams for the rest of his career. I don't really feel sorry for him, and it's disgusting that he gets so much undeserved love from the fans.
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Post#40 » by FaTaL » Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:58 pm

because its ellis's time to shine

j-rich was a nice player but he a declining player
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