NBA: Stackhouse CANNOT return to Mavs... Fair?

[Craig McDermott]

Pop applied his veto power.

[mkot]

I thought the league is about correctness not fairness.

In Stern's "black and white," and "rules are the rules," world, he should have no problem with what Stackhouse and Dallas are trying to do. They are waiting the 30 days, and then signing him.

What's illegal here is what Stackhouse said about the deal - the evidence of there's a side deal pre-arranged. Stackhouse is a grade A dumba** for opening his mouth as much as he does. It's illegal is having a side deal in place for him to come back to Dallas as part of the original deal. Basically if they have something set up to bring him back after 30 days then they basically had a handshake deal and they "signed' him before the 30 day window expired that is illegal and against the rule. It doesn't give other teams the opportunity to woo Stackhouse if they chose to during that period. And basically, if Stackhouse didn't say anything, no one would've know about it nor the league can do anything about it.

[damavs02]

The league adding the 30 day waiting period, almost makes it seem like its sanctioning the trade/waive/resign policy. They could have just as easily made it illegal to rejoin your previous team (like with the amnesty waiver), but I would imagine the player's union would object. Potentially the player's union could object to this ruling by the league as well.

Putting language in the CBA regarding the "back room" policy of trade/waive/resign to me, seems to bring it out of the realm of "shady" just like Stackhouse talking about it does.

I think Stackhouse was stupid to talk about it, but I also think the league is stupid to sanction this practice is a "don't ask, don't tell" fashion.

[Hypz]

I believe that there's one word of internet slang that summarizes the Mavs organization: owned!

[pwayknicks]

All this means is Keith Van Horn will get paid even more in the sign and trade now....

[Serpo]

All this means is Keith Van Horn will get paid even more in the sign and trade now....

If KVH doesn't wanna sign im ready to go sign me up . Im ready to take the sacrifice of getting paid millions of dollars for signing a piece of paper

Mark Cuban call me everytime you want man .

[DraftBoy10]

So when Stackhouse becomes a Net, bought out, and sits out for 30 days then comes back to the Dallas Mavericks that is illegal?

I thought they insisted that duration of a medium period to 30 days because of Gary Payton. So now the player must wait more than just the waiver period, but one full month.

Jerry Stackhouse is following the rules to a T. Nothing wrong in that.

[Tacoma]

So when Stackhouse becomes a Net, bought out, and sits out for 30 days then comes back to the Dallas Mavericks that is illegal?

I thought they insisted that duration of a medium period to 30 days because of Gary Payton. So now the player must wait more than just the waiver period, but one full month.

Jerry Stackhouse is following the rules to a T. Nothing wrong in that.

What's wrong isn't with the 30 days or Stackhouse opening his big mouth (that's just stupid but not wrong!); rather what's wrong is with the secret side deal that Stackhouse's big mouth revealed.

Absent a secret pre-arranged deal, when the Nets buy out Stackhouse's contract, every team is suppose to have a chance to negotiate to sign him during the 30-day wait period and then after 30 days, he selects the "best" team he wants to sign with.

However, this secret handshake deal essentially takes away any chance other teams can pick him up because it has been prearranged that Dallas will be the winner of the Stackhouse sweepstakes. This is the illegal part.

Had Stackhouse said nothing, then the league couldn't do anything because there would be no evidence.

[sule]

i wonder if Dirk will ever pass Stack and Devean the ball, knowing they essentially killed his chance to really get to the finals this year

[GenericUsername]

Again, there is no proof there was a pre-arranged deal.

The reporter asked him the question, maybe he was too honest, but it's not a stretch to think the players know they can go back to the team that traded them after 30 days. Stack's been around, so I'd think he knows the system

But that doesn't mean the Mavs or Nets colluded with him. Maybe New Jersey talked to him before about a buyout.

But all the other whiny GM's had to complain to Stern and Stern has to do damage control.

[Cevap]

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How are they not playing by the rules in this case? The rule clearly states that a player must wait 30 days before resigning with his previous team. There's no ambiguity there; it's not a circumstance that was never expressly defined. How does Stack opening his mouth have any bearing on what the rules actually state?

rules don't actually state that you should make a trade, buy out a player and the player to go back. rules state that after a trade and buy out, players should give other teams a chance to make a pitch and if they're not happy they have the option to go back to their team


it's called "acting in good faith"

[YiYaoYue]

It is unfair that it happens to mavs right before their trade... it is NBA's fault for having the loophole. The rule itself should be changed and I think the new ruling is fair and should be implemented after trade deadline.

[Scrub Sura]

all joking aside, the Mavs should thank Stack and Devean. The trade killed their depth.

Agreed

I know Stackhouse does some nice things for the community and helped the Pistons not only restore their winning ways, but acquire Rip Hamilton in the process.

But the guy is as dumb as a bag of rocks

[damavs02]

It turns out that Kidd and Stackhouse both have the same agent. And this agent was trying to find ways to get Kidd out of New Jersey.

It's very possible that the agent floated the idea to Stack, they discussed a buy out amount ahead of time, and the agent then tells New Jersey that if they traded with Dallas and took Stackhouse, if things didn't work out, they would be willing to settle for a reasonable buyout.

I don't think it's any secret that Avery Johnson loves him some Stackhouse (and his 38% shooting), so I wouldn't think the Mavs would have to tell him he'd be wanted back.

I'm not saying this is what happened, but if you say the agent is the one who told Stack and their was no discussion with either team, you can't block the deal because of collusion between the teams and Stack.

[Nate505]

I'm all for anything that punishes that idiot Stackhouse.