Anthems before games

[T-Spot]

Moe Cheeks needs to sing more of them anthems.

[Promezclan]

and 29 of the teams where it is played are in the United States--and one team in Canada.The rest of you can blow off the National Anthem blithely I guess, but as a veteran I resent the hell out of the suggestion that it should be omitted The day the NBA eliminates the anthems before games is the last day the NBA gets any of my money--and the day, I'm willing to bet, every veterans organization in the country will be working to have the NBA boycitted.

That some of you agree with skipping it (many of you, I'm sure, would never think of serving, content to let others die for you...) says some very bad things about the state of patriotism in this country. Nauseating!

WTF does basketball have to do with the national anthem? Veterans aren't that stupid.

[floppymoose]

That some of you agree with skipping it (many of you, I'm sure, would never think of serving, content to let others die for you...) says some very bad things about the state of patriotism in this country. Nauseating!

Not wanting to play the anthem before nba basketball games doesn't say anything about my patriotism. You are confused.

[sule]

they play the canadian anthem at non-raptor games?

[UCFJayBird]

I'm going to have to agree with writerman. Heaven forbid we spend a few minutes before a basketball game showing respect for the country we live in and the veterans that fight for us.

It takes what? 3-5 minutes?

Regardless of it having anything to do with the NBA, playing the anthem is a great tribute and a great way to remind people of the armed forces around the world right now. Show some respect. You guys are acting like it's a nuisance, it's the national anthem, have some pride for the country you live in.

[kandiking]

I'm going to have to agree with writerman. Heaven forbid we spend a few minutes before a basketball game showing respect for the country we live in and the veterans that fight for us.

It takes what? 3-5 minutes?

Regardless of it having anything to do with the NBA, playing the anthem is a great tribute and a great way to remind people of the armed forces around the world right now. Show some respect. You guys are acting like it's a nuisance, it's the national anthem, have some pride for the country you live in.

+1, and that goes for canada too. does O Canada really bother you guys that much? and if the league goes to europe so what.

[Wilford Brimley]

And then we wonder why people in other countries hate Americans so much.....

[Black Jesus 1]

they play the canadian anthem at non-raptor games?

Um, why would they?


They don't.

[sule]

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Um, why would they?


They don't.

some of the posts made it seem like they do, or they should

[writerman]

And then we wonder why people in other countries hate Americans so much.....

look, I've had considerable experience with people from other nations and cultures--most of them good, decent ordinary people--but the ones that hate us don't hate us because of any faults of ours, though like every nation, we have our faults.

Some of those that hate us hate us because they fear our freedoms may be contagious (like the **** running things in Iran and other such places) and because they envy us.

Others hate us because our success makes them feel second rate, and they resent it. It's that, plain and simple.

If an NBA game is played in Canada, the Canadian anthem should be played first--because the game is being played on Canadian soil--and the American anthem should follow, in recognition of the fact that the NBA is an organization founded and largely centered in the United States, and that the game was conceived here.

If the NBA expands to countries other than the U.S. and Canada, the same general rules should be followed.

The NBA has a bad enough image among large segments of the American public without adding to that by showing disdain for the patriotism of millions of Americans by omitting the anthem.

[writerman]

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Not wanting to play the anthem before nba basketball games doesn't say anything about my patriotism. You are confused.

When it comes to patriotism, I've put my ass on the line to prove it by serving in the army and spending a tour in Vietnam, a not particularly pleasant place, especially in 1968.

Patriotism should be more than just talk. An unwillingness to have to "endure" the "agony" of having to listen to the anthem before watching a bunch of overpaid prima donnas play a silly kids game (because as much as I enjoy it, that's what it is) doesn't say much about your level of commitment to this country, and sadly suggests you belong in the company of those who laugh, and otherwise xcrew around and show a basic lack of respect by their actions when the anthem is being played. How such minimal rituals are observed says a lot about an individual, IMO. Maybe you are the one who's confused about what the word "patriotism" means. If you aren't willing to make even this minimal "sacrifice" to show respect for this country and the people who have served it and endured real hardship to make it great, what are you willing to contribute if called upon?

[T-Spot]

If an NBA game is played in Canada, the Canadian anthem should be played first--because the game is being played on Canadian soil--and the American anthem should follow, in recognition of the fact that the NBA is an organization founded and largely centered in the United States, and that the game was conceived here.

And if a game is being played in the States, the American Anthem should be played following with the Canadian anthem because basketball was the brainchild of a Canadian, and to recognize that the Huskies were one of the original basketball teams in the BAA.

[duppyy]

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And if a game is being played in the States, the American Anthem should be played following with the Canadian anthem because basketball was the brainchild of a Canadian, and to recognize that the Huskies were one of the original basketball teams in the BAA.

Also the first NBA game was played in Toronto was it not?

[Mr. Savage]

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look, I've had considerable experience with people from other nations and cultures--most of them good, decent ordinary people--but the ones that hate us don't hate us because of any faults of ours, though like every nation, we have our faults.

Some of those that hate us hate us because they fear our freedoms may be contagious (like the **** running things in Iran and other such places) and because they envy us.

Others hate us because our success makes them feel second rate, and they resent it. It's that, plain and simple.

If an NBA game is played in Canada, the Canadian anthem should be played first--because the game is being played on Canadian soil--and the American anthem should follow, in recognition of the fact that the NBA is an organization founded and largely centered in the United States, and that the game was conceived here.

If the NBA expands to countries other than the U.S. and Canada, the same general rules should be followed.

The NBA has a bad enough image among large segments of the American public without adding to that by showing disdain for the patriotism of millions of Americans by omitting the anthem.

People frown upon Americans, because of their obvious lack of basic education. A turkish friend of mine went to Kansas and told the people there that he resides in Germany but has a turkish background, just to be asked whether Turkey is actually in Germany. And there are numerous other examples.

Then Americans are frowned upon, because a lot of them are just extremely narrow minded as they dismiss everything that is not American as bad, may it be Soccer or a different democratic system, as long as it is not American it sucks.

Then another reason, why people frown upon Americans is, because of the way poverty, racism and social security are dealt with in your country. I find it outrageous when Americans boastfully say that their country is the best in the world, when you guys have people that have illnesses or other more or less severe ailments, but cannot afford to let them be treated by a doctor. Something like this would be unimaginable in the country where I am from. And this is because not everyone has health insurance.
Then out of all the industrial countries, the USA is one of the more racially divided countries, which is another issue. Minorities are poor and kept poor, it is that simple.

Your electoral system is outdated and is responsible for letting one of biggest idiots and warmongers in history become president TWICE. Also, your democratic system gives the president way too much power for a single person and the Iraq war is a direct result of that. Apart from that, you have this idiotic 2 party system, which basically eliminates the chances of a 3rd party to gain any amount of influence in your politics, while other countries have parlaments that consist of 5 or even more parties.

The USA are a corrupt country, where votes simply disappear and certain people of minorities are denied their right of casting their vote for their presidential candidate. Your politicians are basically all bought, since they all represent corporate interests first and the peoples interests second, even though this problem is surfacing in other countries as well, the US is still a frontrunner in all industrial nations.

The USA still executes the death penalty, which is totally obsolete. What about guantanamo ? A lot people despise this country just for that.

A lot of people dislike the US culture. They ask, why do these Americans always need the biggest car that guzzles the most petrol ? Why a dodge or Ford Truck that needs 20 litres of petrol every 100 km, when there are so many more efficient cars out there.

Your eating habits are also a point where people just laugh. There is a reason, the US is the fattest country in the world by far. Supersize me anyone ?



Americans really have to open their eyes a bit. People from western europe, which is as free as you are, frown upon you because of these above mentioned. And what success are you talking about ? You guys **** up the war, your economy is plummetting, so many other issues aren't resolved. What success should we Europeans be jealous of ?

[floppymoose]

Patriotism should be more than just talk.

You're right. Patriotism *should* be more than just talk. And an anthem before an nba game just doesn't cut it as an act of patriotism.

[sule]

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look, I've had considerable experience with people from other nations and cultures--most of them good, decent ordinary people--but the ones that hate us don't hate us because of any faults of ours, though like every nation, we have our faults.

Some of those that hate us hate us because they fear our freedoms may be contagious (like the **** running things in Iran and other such places) and because they envy us.

Others hate us because our success makes them feel second rate, and they resent it. It's that, plain and simple.

If an NBA game is played in Canada, the Canadian anthem should be played first--because the game is being played on Canadian soil--and the American anthem should follow, in recognition of the fact that the NBA is an organization founded and largely centered in the United States, and that the game was conceived here.

If the NBA expands to countries other than the U.S. and Canada, the same general rules should be followed.

The NBA has a bad enough image among large segments of the American public without adding to that by showing disdain for the patriotism of millions of Americans by omitting the anthem.

lol...your 'freedoms' are not why others hate the US...anyone who thinks that, IMO, is misinformed on the East

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Also the first NBA game was played in Toronto was it not?

first two professional basketball teams were the Toronto Huskies and the New York Knickerbockers, i believe

[galeon110]

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Then play the chinese anthem, since there are probably more watchers from there than from canada.

Last time I checked, China doesn't have a team.