How dumb is it that in a trade a player neither teams wants

[The Notic]

doing well every year doesn't mean anything in the long run..if they are doing it for money, that's different..I'm speaking about on the court results..winning a championship is what it's all about, and they've had two great chances, but had 2 of the worst choke jobs in NBA history..that is why the Mavs are a joke..they lost a 2-0 lead IN THE NBA FINALS, the most important series any team can be playing in..what's worse is that they pretty much lost to ONE GUY that beat their entire team..then going on a tear the next season, winning an incredible amount of games, only to be the 1st team in NBA history to lose to the 8th seed in a 7-game series..that's pathetic..

I'd rather be Miami, where I win the title, and then become the worst team in the NBA..winning the title is all that matters..if anybody actually remembers this generations Mavs in the future, it'll be because of their choke jobs, not because of their "playoff success"..

This could be the worst post I've read in my tenure as a RealGM poster/ Kudos, sir.

[HarlemHeat37]

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This could be the worst post I've read in my tenure as a RealGM poster/ Kudos, sir.

really? that's pretty cute..

I don't see anything false in my post, so many you would like to give me your opinion on the matter?..

[Sedale Threatt]

So basically, the Mavericks are the Spurs before they lucked out and won the Tim Duncan lottery -- cruising along, a nice B-level franchise putting up good regular seasons, never doing much in the playoffs, failing to build a legitimate supporting cast around their top star, who was best known for failing when it counted most. Is that what you're saying?

[HarlemHeat37]

So basically, the Mavericks are the Spurs before they lucked out and won the Tim Duncan lottery -- cruising along, a nice B-level franchise putting up good regular seasons, never doing much in the playoffs, failing to build a legitimate supporting cast around their top star, who was best known for failing when it counted most. Is that what you're saying?

pretty much..

that was actually a great summary..maybe the Mavs will luck out and get a franchise savior if Dirk goes down for the season..but if they don't, they're just another Sacramento and Portland, and nobody ever talks about either of those teams in a positive way..

[LLcoleJ]

can end up stopping the trade like george?

the nba has to make it more flexible to make deals..

it makes no sense that in these trades you have to involve scrub players nobody wants just to add up salary..

So what your are saying is one mans career and how he wants to and can contril .... is not as important because he is a scrub?

[LLcoleJ]

it's not the NBA's fault that the Mavs gave George a no-trade clause. It's their own fault.

really? Have you been keeping up with this?

Its in the provision of the CBA. One year deals have a no trade clause without consent.

[noido]

It is Dallas' fault because, presumably they did not consult with Devean George about the trade first and ask to waive those rights. Tell somebody to pack up and move in public and he has a way to stop it he is almost certain to. Tell him a day before, get NJ to offer an incentive (ie buyout in full so he can get a new team to pay him extra) means he will almost certainly allow it. It seems clear that they talked to Stackhouse beforehand right???

[studcrackers]

they didnt talk to stackhouse prior, a reporter contacted him for a quote on his situation, if george accepted initially his comments probably wouldnt have bothered anyone

[LAKESHOW]

the dumb part of actually giving george a no-trade clause.

[RockTHECasbah]

Still their fault for not forseeing it and signing someone else, players like George are a dime a dozen (I hate this phrase).

[studcrackers]

the dumb part of actually giving george a no-trade clause.

jesus christ can you not read, its been mentioned 6 times already it was part of the CBA is why he had a no trade

[DDV]

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So what your are saying is one mans career and how he wants to and can contril .... is not as important because he is a scrub?

i specifically said i blame the rules not george

the idea that somebody neitehr team really wants but has to inlcude to match salaries can block a huge trade shows a flaw in the system

[ppp000]

The dumb part is how people still believe Mavs gave George a no trade clause

The dumb part is how people believe they know the intimate details of the trade (anyone who honestly believes the Mavs and Nets didn't sign off on George's approval is delusional. George said he was on his phone all day, knew about the trade and given the quotes from both Cuban and Thorn, seemed to change his mind after talking to his agent who was out of town)

[jourdy]

The dumb part is how people still believe Mavs gave George a no trade clause

The dumb part is how people believe they know the intimate details of the trade (anyone who honestly believes the Mavs and Nets didn't sign off on George's approval is delusional. George said he was on his phone all day, knew about the trade and given the quotes from both Cuban and Thorn, seemed to change his mind after talking to his agent who was out of town)

Too many know-it-alls in RealGM.
Too funny how they keep asking why the Mavs gave George a no-clause thread when it has been said 6x in this thread, and about 20x in the other thread.

[Raptors90102]

If I was Cuban and George did this to me, I would plant his ass permanently on the bench for the rest of the year and then not resign him next year. The guy thinks he can make more than what he already is making for being a spot minutes player.. Thats just stupid.. whats even funnier is that he specifically asked for a trade a couple of weeks ago and now that he got his wish, he blocks the trade. What a **** joke. I am not a fan of Cuban, Avery or the Mavs, but when a scrub takes a team for ransom, he needs to be benched for good. Its one thing if you're Kobe and have a no-trade clause, but if you're a 9th or 10th man at best, you shouldn't block trades for the sake of your bird rights. Cuz simply put, after what he did, there's no chance that the Mavs will resign him. and how much more does he think he'll make even if the Mavs resign him next year?

[RockTHECasbah]

That's pretty vengeful. Did you think that George would have to move to NJ for a few months, with or without his family (I don't know the details). And he would need compensation for the inconvenience. Its not ransom, its business.

[noido]

The dumb part is how people still believe Mavs gave George a no trade clause

The dumb part is how people believe they know the intimate details of the trade (anyone who honestly believes the Mavs and Nets didn't sign off on George's approval is delusional. George said he was on his phone all day, knew about the trade and given the quotes from both Cuban and Thorn, seemed to change his mind after talking to his agent who was out of town)

I did say presumably
I was unaware of the quote from George sayign that he knew about it and gave his blessing prior to talking to his agent