Odds of Beno Udrih winning MIP Award

Anticon · Post #22 » by **Anticon** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:44 pm

I would rank Hedo, Calderon, and Udrih up there. I have a problem with Kaman because while he's improved, he regressed a great deal last year. I don't think the MIP should reward players for rebounding from crappy seasons.

a-rod · Post #23 » by **a-rod** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:20 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:Mike Dunleavy, Jr. is probably somewhere up there too. In fact, when you match up Dunleavy and Turkoglu, they're essentially having the same season this year, but Dunleavy's just a couple minutes a game below him.

Dunleavy - ~35 minutes, 18.2 ppg, 5 rpg, 3apg, 2 to, 1 spg, 48% fg, 40% 3pt, 83% ft

Turkoglu - ~38 minutes, 19.6 ppg, 6 rpg, 5apg, 3 to, 1 spg, 45% fg, 39% 3pt, 84% ft

Both guys have played great this year, but Turkoglu has really improved from averaging 14 ppg or so consistently over the past 4 years, and he's essentially playing more minutes and shooting more. Dunleavy has taken a step up from averaging about 11 ppg or so consistently his entire career, and is clearly averaging career highs in most every category. Turkoglu = small step up. Dunleavy = large increase in production.

to add to your point, Dunleavy putting up better shooting numbers than Hedo without a dominant big man.

not to take anything away from hedo, but Dunleavy gets my vote......

beno deserve some considerations.

a-rod · Post #24 » by **a-rod** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:24 pm

Anticon wrote:I would rank Hedo, Calderon, and Udrih up there. I have a problem with Kaman because while he's improved, he regressed a great deal last year. I don't think the MIP should reward players for rebounding from crappy seasons.

I have been saying that for long time..........

Mr. Savage · Post #25 » by **Mr. Savage** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:26 pm

Hedo...He is probably as valuable as Howard is for Orlando. No kidding.

Post #26 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:32 pm

theTHIEF wrote:
I disagree with Hedo making a "small step"...the guy has made a major leap...triple doubles man, triple doubles, game winners, distributing the ball on offense, destroying teams in the 4th quarter...MIP or bust for Hedo...

I'll be honest. I can only see stats and measurable production for Hedo since I don't get a lot of Magic games here in Indy. However, just looking at his career stats and his average production night in/night out this year, it's essentially up close to proportional to his minutes. That's all I was trying to say. Dunleavy made a major leap in measurable production.

However, from what I've heard, Turk has made his biggest leaps in what he does that doesn't quite get measured, much like a Jeff Foster. Dunleavy gets that a bit too.