Friday 04/04/2008 - Game Thread

[LLcoleJ]

He doesnt realize that Lamar has been most effective on the Lakers when Bynun OR Gasol were the 2nd options OR when he started to play with aggression as a 2nd option like he has done the past 30 games.

As a Laker fan, I am happy that Lamar is finding a role and playing with aggression.

[B-Scott]

C Gasol
PF Lamar
SF Rad
SG Sasha
PG Chris Paul


1. Pau Gasol sets the screen and rolls. Chis Paul comes off the screen set by Gasol and gets inside the paint with ease and delivers the pass to Gasol. If Lamar's man comes to help out, Pau Gasol will simply make the quick pass to Lamar for the layup or dunk. If Lamar's man stays on Lamar then Gasol has a wide open 12 footer or takes it to the basket for a high percentage shot. All day long.

2. If the PF or C does not help out,then Chris Paul will simply knock down the Mid-Range jumper or hit the 5 foot floater in the lane. Remember he's wide open because of the screen being set by Pau Gasol.

3. If the SF decides to come and help out,then Rad is wide open in the corner for a wide open 3 pointer.

4. If the SG decides to cheat,then Sasha will set a record for most 3's in a game because Chris Paul will find him. I dare the SG cheat off Sasha and help out on Chris Paul. Sasha will feel like he's at the El Segundo practice facilities because he would get so many wide open touches.

I didnt't even mention Andrew Bynum.

[B-Scott]

He doesnt realize that Lamar has been most effective on the Lakers when Bynun OR Gasol were the 2nd options OR when he started to play with aggression as a 2nd option like he has done the past 30 games.

As a Laker fan, I am happy that Lamar is finding a role and playing with aggression.

Who cares about 2nd or 3rd option. James Wothy was the 3rd option on the 80s Lakers and he made a huge impact.

Pau Gasol makes Lamar a better player then Kobe does

Now imagine Gasol and Chris Paul with Lamar

[G35]

C Gasol
PF Lamar
SF Rad
SG Sasha
PG Chris Paul


1. Pau Gasol sets the screen and rolls. Chis Paul comes off the screen set by Gasol and gets inside the paint with ease and delivers the pass to Gasol. If Lamar's man comes to help out, Pau Gasol will simply make the quick pass to Lamar for the layup or dunk. If Lamar's man stays on Lamar then Gasol has a wide open 12 footer or takes it to the basket for a high percentage shot. All day long.

2. If the PF or C does not help out,then Chris Paul will simply knock down the Mid-Range jumper or hit the 5 foot floater in the lane. Remember he's wide open because of the screen being set by Pau Gasol.

3. If the SF decides to come and help out,then Rad is wide open in the corner for a wide open 3 pointer.

4. If the SG decides to cheat,then Sasha will set a record for most 3's in a game because Chris Paul will find him. I dare the SG cheat off Sasha and help out on Chris Paul. Sasha will feel like he's at the El Segundo practice facilities because he would get so many wide open touches.

I didnt't even mention Andrew Bynum.

I don't understand this comparison between Paul and Kobe. You seem to be insinuating Paul would be a better fit.

You do know that the Lakers are 17-4 with Gasol in the lineup. What do you think Paul would do better?......

[LLcoleJ]

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Who cares about 2nd or 3rd option. James Wothy was the 3rd option on the 80s Lakers and he made a huge impact.9

correct, and that is why Odom is better served for that role. You actually just proved my point. thanks.

Pau Gasol makes Lamar a better player then Kobe does

Any low post player will make Lamar a better player. He is 6'10 and is only effective in the post. ( When he gets there) When he sags and hangs out ..he is not effective regardless of who he is playing with.

Now imagine Gasol and Chris Paul with Lamar

why?

[Kobay]

Clearly odom should just stick to driving to the left and stop shooting threes cuz he sucks at it.

[B-Scott]

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why?

It's a different story with Chris Paul because he will get Lamar more layups and dunks then Kobe does.

You can't compare Kobe and Chris Paul when it comes to creating and dishing

Kobe is not a PG. He can not blow by the defense as easy as Paul and get his PF or C high percentage shots consistently.

Double team Kobe at the top of the key and he will dribble all the way out to the halfcourt line. He has had this habit since the Shaq days.

Double team Chris Paul at the top of the key and he is so quick,he wont even touch the 3 point line. He will flat out blow by the center trying to help out and deliver to Lamar for the dunk.

Lamar and Gasol would get more layups and dunks with Chris Paul,then with Kobe.

[LLcoleJ]

It's a different story with Chris Paul because he will get Lamar more layups and dunks then Kobe does.

You can't compare Kobe and Chris Paul when it comes to creating and dishing

Kobe is not a PG. He can not blow by the defense as easy as Paul and get his PF or C high percentage shots consistently.

Double team Kobe at the top of the key and he will dribble all the way out to the halfcourt line. He has had this habit since the Shaq days.

Double team Chris Paul at the top of the key and he is so quick,he wont even touch the 3 point line. He will flat out blow by the center trying to help out and deliver to Lamar for the dunk.

Lamar and Gasol would get more layups and dunks with Chris Paul,then with Kobe.

again...why?

thisnt fantasy basketball...and fantasy coaching with some fantasy pick and rolls that will rule world.

[Big Bird]

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Especially when Baron Davis, Bruce Bowen and Shane Battier is guarding Kobe. He cant blow by these guys. Its 25 foot jumpers all day

Oddly enough, Bryant's average against Battier (in the 7 games as a Rocket) is 33 points per game, including two 53-outings. I won't even mention how badly he got burned during his Grizzlies tenure (56 in 3? You betcha).

Bowen is indeed a tad better, Bryant averages 27,7 ppg against Bowen (as a Spur).

But I guess, all those points come from jumpers, you're absolutely right.

You're unbelievable, B-Scott. But kudos to you for sticking up for your favourite player like that.

[magicfan4life05]

B-Scott=Jordansbulls


I'd like 1 IP check please, to go

[dockingsched]

lots of people questioning the lakers fanbase's feelings towards lamar on here. as a big fan of lamar i'll tell u that b-scott single handedly creates a feeling of resentment towards odom the way he always makes everything lamar vs kobe. he can't praise or criticize lamar without spitting out some blame towards kobe. lamar does bad, it was kobe's fault. lamar does well, it was despite kobe. gets old.

[kno]

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Lets look at the points you missed with Chris Paul and Kobe Bryant

Paul gets inside the paint a lot more then Kobe. Its not even close and this is not a knock on Kobe. Chris Paul can simply get inside the free throw line area more then Kobe and more then any other player in the NBA. He's 6-1, cat quick and even if you double team at off that screen at the top of the key, he still finds a way to get inside the paint.

This ability alone would help Lamar get more layups, and 1's, dunks playing with Chris Paul,then with Kobe. That 14 and 20 average would most likely be 18 to 10 points a game. Remember Paul is a PG.

I can make a argument that Lamar actually plays better with Pau Gaso,the with Kobe.

Imagine Gasol, Lamar and Chris Paul. Considering Paul gets inside the paint a lot more then Kobe.

Chris Paul would average 15 assist with this Laker team

What the hell are you talking about? Missed points with Paul/Kobe?

When?

It was never my intention to talk anything Kobe/Paul.

I just said you completely missed the point Phil 2.0 was trying to make, and instead replied to him with a comment that is completely irrelevant.

Get off those buttresses. Im not trying to invade your territory.

CHill out.