What should the Nuggets do this offseason?

Post #41 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:14 am

AI is an exceptional guard, but you need a special PG next to him, Kirk Hinrich is that guy, to a T, then you can run small lineups with all of Hinrich/AI/JR/Melo, and still not really be undersized.

The time is this summer, Hinrich's value will never be lower, and after this statistical season, Camby's will probably never be higher, though they are probably better with K-Mart and Nene frontcourt, but they may be able to snag the type of dirty work center they need, that actually IS a really good defender.

AILebronMelo · Post #42 » by **AILebronMelo** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:17 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:AI is an exceptional guard, but you need a special PG next to him, Kirk Hinrich is that guy, to a T, then you can run small lineups with all of Hinrich/AI/JR/Melo, and still not really be undersized.

The time is this summer, Hinrich's value will never be lower, and after this statistical season, Camby's will probably never be higher, though they are probably better with K-Mart and Nene frontcourt, but they may be able to snag the type of dirty work center they need, that actually IS a really good defender.

I think Hinrich is a perfect fit in Denver but I still dunno about moving Camby. I think AI and Jr. Smith should be the starters but since Karl hates the guy he will never even give it a try.

big123 · Post #43 » by **big123** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:28 am

AILebronMelo wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I think Hinrich is a perfect fit in Denver but I still dunno about moving Camby. I think AI and Jr. Smith should be the starters but since Karl hates the guy he will never even give it a try.

JR is basically the offense off the bench right now with LK very inconsistent. I think the Nuggets should start JR and bolster the bench, get a new coach and see how things go. I think that alone could go a long way.

Hoops Pimp · Post #44 » by **Hoops Pimp** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:03 am

AI
Smith
Artest
Brand
Camby

That is a very scary team. The only other team that would be as scary going into next season would be the Lakers

Fisher
Bryant
Odom
Gasol
Bryant

Duiz · Post #45 » by **Duiz** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:18 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:AI is an exceptional guard, but you need a special PG next to him, Kirk Hinrich is that guy, to a T, then you can run small lineups with all of Hinrich/AI/JR/Melo, and still not really be undersized.

The time is this summer, Hinrich's value will never be lower, and after this statistical season, Camby's will probably never be higher, though they are probably better with K-Mart and Nene frontcourt, but they may be able to snag the type of dirty work center they need, that actually IS a really good defender.

Wow... that is the best deal. I hadn't even thought about that one.

Hinrich is also an excellent shooter.

Post #46 » by **Rooster** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:21 am

I fail to see why everyone should want to blow up a 50-win team. Tweak here, sign there and you're good to go next season. The West is tough but the Nuggets have a solid team and there's no reason to be hitting the panic button.

Melo for Brand would be interesting if only because AI and Brand would be a combined $38M in expirings but as mentioned, Melo's too much of a keeper and Brand's too injured. I think JR's best off the bench and a more all-around guy should be in the starting lineup even if he scores less. (An Anthony Parker type would be perfect here but I can't see any way the Nuggets could get him.)

Adding youth can't hurt either so if some stingy owner wants to sell a pick, the Nuggets are definitely one of the teams that should be knocking.

Reks · Post #47 » by **Reks** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:17 am

1:hire a new coach (preferably a strict, defensive minded one) that can develop JR.
2:get some perimiter defenders (even the phoenix suns
had Marion and the warriors have jackson)
3:get a PG that can shoot well and can defend great
4:don't trade melo...he's the future of this franchise
5:and most important realize that the only way they'll win is by playing some damn defense

pr0wler · Post #48 » by **pr0wler** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:45 am

Hoops Pimp wrote:AI
That is a very scary team. The only other team that would be as scary going into next season would be the Lakers

Fisher
Bryant
Odom
Gasol
Bryant

Anyone notice anything wrong with that?

Anyways, the Nuggets are a frustrating team because they have so much offensive power but it's misused. Why is Anthony freakin Carter playing so many minutes? I mean Allen Iverson is not the prototypical PG but I think he'd be better off than AC who is a glorified D-Leaguer. Start Smith at SG and you have a rotation like this...

PG - Iverson/Carter
SG - Smith/Diawara
SF - Iverson/Kleiza
PF - Martin/Najera
C - Camby/Martin

Add Nene to the front court rotation if he ever comes back and you got a solid lineup. They still could use some defense on the perimeter but I still don't see why AC is playing more than JR Smith. Smith is the only guy that can hit the 3 reliably and on a per minute basis he is a scoring machine.

I think another big problem is that the Nuggets have a lot of money invested in two deadweights, Martin and Nene. They spent too much cash on these guys and now they're heavily invested with little options. Their only way to upgrade is by trading away one of their main guys just to mix things up a bit. In a couple years when their contracts expire they should be fine but unfortunately by then Camby and Iverson will be past their prime. Just unlucky timing for Denver.

MrDollarBills · Post #49 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:44 pm

They need to discover the fact that basketball is played on both ends of the court, not just on the side that has the basket which they are shooting at

Post #50 » by **Doctor MJ** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:08 pm

That Nicka wrote:LOL... It was a joke... but they really do need a real PG

Yup. There's no doubt that if they could add any kind of superstar to a team with Melo, a scoring perieter player is the worst thing to do. Doesn't mean you swap AI for a far lesser player, but it was my feeling when the trade happened that the league breathed a sigh of relief along the lines of "Thank god AI didn't go to Minnesota where he could really help them".

Texas Longhorns · Post #51 » by **Texas Longhorns** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:43 pm

They should get a lot less more thug players.

amcoolio · Post #52 » by **amcoolio** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:48 pm

Add Artest, trade for S-Jax and Nate Robinson, sign Stephon Marbury and watch the hilarity ensue.

ambiglight · Post #53 » by **ambiglight** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:10 pm

Rooster wrote:I fail to see why everyone should want to blow up a 50-win team. Tweak here, sign there and you're good to go next season. The West is tough but the Nuggets have a solid team and there's no reason to be hitting the panic button.

Melo for Brand would be interesting if only because AI and Brand would be a combined $38M in expirings but as mentioned, Melo's too much of a keeper and Brand's too injured. I think JR's best off the bench and a more all-around guy should be in the starting lineup even if he scores less. (An Anthony Parker type would be perfect here but I can't see any way the Nuggets could get him.)

Adding youth can't hurt either so if some stingy owner wants to sell a pick, the Nuggets are definitely one of the teams that should be knocking.

I feel like Im missing something. This team has beat some very good teams and has the best record they've had in a while. What games they have lost to bad competition have a lot to do with over-playing AC and not playing JR substantial minutes for half the season. Is it no surprise that since JRs started playing, they are actually winning games on a regular basis.

This team needs to hold pat. Tweak the bench at most but they have a good combination that has at least two more seasons to make a run at a title.

RoyceDa59 · Post #54 » by **RoyceDa59** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:15 pm

Trade Allen Iverson for Andre Miller.

yunggunz · Post #55 » by **yunggunz** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:03 pm

First and foremost Camby has to go. He plays at 60 percent for at least half of the season, and when he plays at 60%, the nuggets aren

big123 · Post #56 » by **big123** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:46 pm

Yeah, the Nuggets are in some bad shape right now. They are 5 wins from being a #1 seed in the most competitive conference in years. That calls for a huge shakeup and it;'s own thread :crazy:

Post #57 » by **Flash3** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:55 pm

big123 wrote:Yeah, the Nuggets are in some bad shape right now. They are 5 wins from being a #1 seed in the most competitive conference in years. That calls for a huge shakeup and it;'s own thread

Yet, they aren't. So, a few moves here or there might get them closer to the #1 seed, or the #1 seed. - Granted, what's going on in this thread.

A.J. · Post #58 » by **A.J.** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:06 pm

Aquire a scoring big for the bench,

giberish · Post #59 » by **giberish** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:52 am

The problem isn't a lack of defense (their defensive efficiency is better than their offensive efficiency).

Their biggest problem is a lack of quality guards. After Iverson, Smith and Carter are tolerable reserve options but neither should play more than 20 mpg (maybe 10 mpg for Carter). Ideally they would look to add a tall pg who can defend SG's and make 3's, but any better player then what they have would be an improvement.