Does Denver have a shot at the title?

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Post#81 » by -G- » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:49 am

LeRydee23 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



That other guy was saying why didnt lebron man up and play melo for the whole game, now that doesnt make very much sense to do, and thats also why kobe didnt guard the oposing best wing player.
lebron didnt even guard him in the 4th becuase bron wasnt playing (melo was tho) and im sure he would deffinatly have shut him down in the 4th


They play the same position!!! You had Eric freaking Snow guard him instead of matching up with his position.
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Post#82 » by Bgil » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:50 am

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That other guy was saying why didnt lebron man up and play melo for the whole game, now that doesnt make very much sense to do, and thats also why kobe didnt guard the oposing best wing player.
lebron didnt even guard him in the 4th becuase bron wasnt playing (melo was tho) and im sure he would deffinatly have shut him down in the 4th


Kobe didn't guard him because there was no need to. AI was throwing up all these points and they still weren't dominating. At best it was just keeping Denver from getting blown out.
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Post#83 » by kobe#8 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:57 am

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Post#84 » by Blame Rasho » Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:21 am

Sure... they have a slight chance but I wouldn't bet on it. I think they are a flawed team( questionable 3 shooting and half court offensive) that will eventually get exposed in the playoffs.
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Post#85 » by LiquidFire » Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:25 am

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They play the same position!!! You had Eric freaking Snow guard him instead of matching up with his position.


last time i checked.. kobe is a sg.. ai is a sg? They both play the same position!!!
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Post#86 » by Nuggetsfanduh98 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:09 am

Patterns wrote:Nuggets have no chance of winning the tittle.

The Jazz, Spurs, Lakers, Mavericks all have a big advantage over them. They might even sweep the Nuggets. Phx, NO, GSW, Houston can easily beat them too.

Even if they get to the Finals, they have no chance against DET or BOS.


Shut up! You have no idea what your even talking obviously. Watch a game or two before making a statement please. We have beaten the Jazz once and played them down to the wire on another occasion. We have spilt the season series with SA. The Mavs we beat down by 13 @dallas which we are the only western team to do so this season if I do recall. The 2nd trip to dallas we were without not just atkins/Nene but Melo as well. Still we hung around and nearly pulled off the game losing by a mere 5 points. The lakers have gave us fits this year I will admit won the series 3-0 so I've got nothing to say on their behalf. Phx? did you say Phx? we don't even know how shaq daddy will do. Will he mess up the chemistry? will he be able to stay on the floor more than 5 minutes while making an impact? who knows. New Orelans are a very inexpericed ball club most of them have never even seen the playoffs before. Extremly talented but inexpericed.(But I could see them Winning as they have a arsenal of weapons.) We seem to play golden state very well which the series is 1-1. As well as Houston is nodded at 1-1. I also don't see how we will not have a chance to beat boston why not we have a pretty damn team talent wise. They have to come to Denver feb. 19th in the altitude. So we will see how that one turns out.(don't be surprised by a denver victory because I won't be.)Remember that lopsided game the one the Celtics blew them out in. It was like the 4th game of the year and also after an emotional night in NY the night before the game while boston celtics had 1-2-3 days off. I really don't see your point on why we cannot beat detroit either we certainly have not played them bad in the past. I know after this post i'm gonna get the "The playoffs is a different season" While that is true I do belive the nuggets have as good of a chance as anyone out west. I strongly beleive this and will stick by it. It ain't just Melo/AI if you have forgotten LK proved he could score. He had 41 vs Utah. K-Mart and MC are very good defenders as you know and if we get Artest just WOW! (If he keeps his head striaght of course.) IMO the nuggets are just as likely to win the "Big Game" as the likes of the Celtics,Pistons or Spurs. Just my opinion but I stand by it and firmly beleive it.



BTW As one of my fellow posters has already stated this was not started by a denver fan becuase we know every doubts us so Mods I would'nt mind seeing it locked because so far all it seems like is a denver Bashing thread.
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Post#87 » by Nuggetsfanduh98 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:10 am

High 5 wrote:None at all. Which is a shame because there's a lot of talent wasting away there. Players that don't have many years left like AI, Camby and K-Mart.

I mean, I guess if they started hitting on all cylinders then they could go far and make it close, but I'd pick about 7 or 8 teams to win it before them.


What would them 7 0r 8 teams be???
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Post#88 » by Nuggetsfanduh98 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:17 am

TD is the MAN wrote:Sure... they have a slight chance but I wouldn't bet on it. I think they are a flawed team( questionable 3 shooting and half court offensive) that will eventually get exposed in the playoffs.


As that has happended in the past I strogly disagree it will happen again the year the Nuggets appear ready to make deal and if they so happen to make the move it will be a move for Artest or Miller. Either way both improve both catagories. Ron is not a strong 3 point shooter at 34% but shoots alot of contested 3's in denver he will have many open loooks. He will help on the half-court offence in general becuase that's one more dynamic scorer the other team has to worry about along with Melo and AI as well as Kleiza if we go small ball. If we acquire Miller in a trade then he would Improve the 3 point shooting drastically I don't feel like I have to say anything about Mike Miller open for 3's but lighs out shooting. Also he has the reputation for being a great 3 point shooter so they cannot move we will say Carters man down down to DT Melo and becuase they know melo hits that outlet out to Miller for an open three more times than not its going in. No offence intended to carter but he can't shoot 2's that well much less 3's.
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Post#89 » by ilikecb4 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:32 am

i think they gotta a shot...

remember tho...they gotta beat out spurs, suns, lakers....

and a bunch of other good team like the Jazz...

it's gonna be VERY difficult..

i can see them in conference semi-finals...

after that i dunno
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Post#90 » by -G- » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:36 am

LeRydee23 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



last time i checked.. kobe is a sg.. ai is a sg? They both play the same position!!!


I actually am good friends with a Cavs fan, and he agrees you're...special. We're done here.
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Post#91 » by High 5 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:56 am

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What would them 7 0r 8 teams be???


Boston, Detroit, Phoenix, Los Angeles, San Antonio, and Dallas for sure. Multiple other teams (NO, Toronto, Utah, GS, Orlando, Houston, Portland) that I believe would beat them in a series or push them to their limit.
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Post#92 » by Nuggetsfanduh98 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:07 pm

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Boston, Detroit, Phoenix, Los Angeles, San Antonio, and Dallas for sure. Multiple other teams (NO, Toronto, Utah, GS, Orlando, Houston, Portland) that I believe would beat them in a series or push them to their limit.


I agree that Boston,Detroit,SA might have a better chance. Dallas on the other hand I think we could take down in a 7 game series. NO would be a good one, I would love to play toronto for the NBA championship, Utah would be an amzaing series, GS we have played Extremly well aginast, Orlando we have already beaten them once thyis season 113-103 and will see them again tomarrow so we will see, Houston I beleive we could take them they are hot right now but when they were struggling the comments i'm sure would not have been even uttered. Portland on the other hand is way to inexpericed to compete wioth us in the playoffs. You so quickly forget we have learned from the best the the last 2 years at putting a team out of the playoffs.(SA)
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Post#93 » by Ballings7 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:31 pm

Nuggetsfanduh98 wrote:As that has happended in the past I strogly disagree it will happen again the year the Nuggets appear ready to make deal and if they so happen to make the move it will be a move for Artest or Miller. Either way both improve both catagories. Ron is not a strong 3 point shooter at 34% but shoots alot of contested 3's in denver he will have many open loooks. He will help on the half-court offence in general becuase that's one more dynamic scorer the other team has to worry about along with Melo and AI as well as Kleiza if we go small ball. If we acquire Miller in a trade then he would Improve the 3 point shooting drastically I don't feel like I have to say anything about Mike Miller open for 3's but lighs out shooting. Also he has the reputation for being a great 3 point shooter so they cannot move we will say Carters man down down to DT Melo and becuase they know melo hits that outlet out to Miller for an open three more times than not its going in. No offence intended to carter but he can't shoot 2's that well much less 3's.


Denver's definitely not getting both Mike Miller and Ron Artest. That'd be incredible if so, but it's not realistic (maybe you weren't saying that).

They already lack the willing pieces for one of them. And specifically, their willing package of Najera/R1 pick for Artest isn't getting it done.

Nene healthy or not, is suspect at best if he's a relevant asset from either side in a deal. I'd guess not with things on both sides.

I watch the Kings, and Ron doesn't shoot a lot of contested threes. That's just exaggerating. A good amount of them are decent-open looks. Mainly, he's not somebody who's going to come in and significantly improve a team's 3PT shooting. He's respectable, but not well above-average. Is a pretty clutch shooter, though.

The Nuggets do get more diverse offensively and better defensively with Ron, but they're still far too much of a perimeter-reliant basketball team. Then the accompanying factor of not being even an average 3PT shooting team.

Regardless of Artest, the defensive mind-set and consistency of the Nuggets has to change.

A team can't rely on forcing turnovers as the (defensively) main and a (offensively) main aspect of your team to be successful. Along with that, lacking control in going for those steals and blocks. Which consequently commonly creates issues with your defense, when the attempt for a steal or block is not successful.

Denver doesn't play the patterned kind of defense with regularity, and doesn't win games off that defense (not nearly enough).

Nuggetsfanduh98 wrote:You so quickly forget we have learned from the best the the last 2 years at putting a team out of the playoffs.(SA)


But are still the complete opposite of the Spurs. If the Nuggets would have learned from the Spurs, the philosophy and partly personnel, would be different. More tradtional.
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Post#94 » by Ballings7 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:27 pm

corona wrote:and there's no word on parker's return


Ballings7 wrote:Actually, he's returning after the all-star break. I would guess that means within 1-2 weeks after it.



yunggunz wrote:I think its all speculation right now. Its impossible to tell with bone spurs....remember, Bobby Simmons went down for the season with bone spurs.


"He'd rather be playing, but I'm not going to let him," Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said. "I think it's better to just sit him and get himself ready to go after the (All-Star) break."

Popovich says Parker is expected to return to the Spurs lineup soon after this weekend's All-Star break.


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Post#95 » by DraftBoy10 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:19 am

This team definitely has the talent to go neck to neck with any team in the league. However, they play stupid, selfish, immature, and irresposible. Once they get over that...they'll be able to capture a ring, however, I don't see Martin, Smith, Carmelo, and especially Iverson ever getting over it.
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Post#96 » by KobeFarmarEra » Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:04 am

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Post#97 » by andrewww » Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:17 am

is this thread suppose to be a joke lol? teams whose offense mainly relies on 1 on 1 isolation is not a recipe for success in playoff basketball.
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Post#98 » by Duiz » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:02 pm

lolmao... As long as AI or Karl or Drunkmelo are on the team they have no shot.
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Post#99 » by JStockLivesOn » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:25 pm

I have to admit a depraved pleasure in reading through this thread. That said, the Lakers are the best team in the West. They didn't get swept by Phoenix or Dallas, at least.
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Post#100 » by Manocad » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:34 pm

Some very astute analysis in there. Many people correctly identified the major reasons for Denver's 50-win season yet first round demise--an offense that can score points but is nothing more than a lot of one-on-one play, and a continued lack of defense.
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