Worst officiated game of all time?

[Duffman100]

Yeah, the Kings getting ****ed against the Lakers is obviously the first thing that comes to mind.

The Rockets/Mavs debacle in 2005 is second, for me. Doesn't get as much pub, but was almost as bad...the Yao foul calls were ridiculous, and the out-of-bounds steal that basically won the game was so blatant a HS ref would call it 10/10 times.

Edit: just started reading through, and while its not surprising, based on experience, it still boggles the mind the degree to which Laker fans are in denial about that series, or even the Portland one. I guess its like killing a lobster...when you get used to getting the calls all the time, you don't notice it anymore, whereas people exposed to it from the outside see it right away.

Thats the thing man, I watched that whole series and I had no bias at all. I really didn't see all the officiating crap that everyoen else saw. I saw the Kings overreacting from the tip of game 1 to every call made against them, almost expecting not to get a fair shake.

I guess if everyone else saw it, then ok. But game 6 wasn't that bad in my opinion.

[Moon Walk]

any game Lebron is playing.. the officials start cheering for Lebron

[heh8me2]

any game Lebron is playing.. the officials start cheering for Lebron

what? if anything they still continue to let him get hit on the way to the rim because they think he's big enough to handle it.

[Nebroc]

Nebroc and HarlemHeat, how did you prove my posts wrong? By stating your opinions? What if I say my opinions are the correct ones? Who's wrong? Well, let me fill you in- THEY'RE OPINIONS!!! It's a matter of third party perspective!! There is no right and wrong, so saying that you prove me wrong is ignorant. And the fact that you admit that there were SOME blown calls last night shows that even you see it. Yes, the Hornets did get away with a few, but the Spurs get away with far more than any team I've ever seen. I've been watching the NBA since the 70's, and I'm telling you what I've seen, not what my opinions are. Me calling the Spurs the "Sterns" is comic relief. And if you don't have a sense of humor, well I'm not aplogizing for your shortcomings (one of which is your self esteem; seriously, criticizing someone about their posts, Harlem? Man, you're worse off than I thought). In almost 4 decades of watching the NBA, only Jordan's Bulls in the 2nd 3peat got close to as much favorable calls as the present day Spurs. You can't argue that. Just watch the games!!! Watch Manu flop. Watch Bowen get away with murder. Watch Duncan get away with the exact kind of defense that puts him on the line. Watch Parker jump into defenders and fall down like a little girl and get to the line. Do you deny that any of this takes place? That is the only question I want you to answer. I don't want you to say "other teams do it" because no other team gets away with as much. So, I pose this question to you--do you or do you not agree with my assessments of Manu, Parker, Bowen, and Duncan? Answer that yes or no, and then we can discuss that. But keep the childish "my posts are better than your posts because your posts are wrong" discussions out of it. You're not hurting my feelings. You're making yourself l look like a fool.

I disagree with all your points. They are stupid. Bowen never gets away with anything. Chris Paul flops harder then anyone not named Manu on our team and when he gets a call Tony can go up the court and do the same thing and not get a call. Games 3 and 4 were horrible with the way Tony was treated. He got to the line sure, but if there was any justice in the world he would be getting Wade esque ft numbers. And don't get me started with that fraud Kobe. Tim Duncan avoids Paul like the plague because he knows he's a cheat. We don't get away with anything. The bulls got FAR more calls as a dynasty and the Lakers are getting more calls now without even being a championship team. Same deal with the Suns. If Amare and Shaq have the self restraint of a five year old there is only so much the refs can do for them. Keep whining about Stern giving the Spurs better treatment even though the Spurs make him lose money. Like I said, the owners are Stern's bosses and if most of them thought Stern was cheating their investment for the Spurs he'd be gone, but like I said, I wouldn't expect logic in a Jaypo post. Whine on bud.

[TMU]

Lakers - Kings series
Lakers - Blazers series

[Deus]

Many of the NBA seasons officiated from 1995-2000 were horribly officiated. Players got away with nearly everything. Bumping, pushing, pulling, shoving, holding, grabbing, kicking, elbowing.

I couldn't stand watching any of the games in the Eastern Conference. Especially between the Knicks and the Heat. Borrrinnng.

[BR0D1E86]

Bulls/Jazz...game 6, 1998 Finals. Howard Eisley's 3, Ron Harper's jumper, and the push off to win it. Pretty much the worst officiated game ever.

Heh, I won't dispute that the Jordan Bulls got plenty of calls in their day but that wasn't in the top 100 worst officiated games in NBA history.

[pillwenney]

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That's not a good argument. Really. Does Stern get paid more for better ratings? Would he get fired for a string of bad ratings? The answer to those questions is likely no. You're assuming that Stern has the league's financial interests at heart. How do you know that? If Donaghy was altering the course of games for the mob, what is there to stop Stern, a person with a lot more power, from doing that? I'm not saying that he is. But that argument isn't valid.

Stern's job, and I would assume his goal is to make the league very profitable. The key to a more profitable league is more fans watching--not just because of ratings and stuff but like, for instance, how many Duncan jerseys are sold every year? Hell, half of every nationally televised Spurs game is dedicated to Eva Longoria. What does that tell you?

Stern has made several moves to deliberately try to make the NBA more profitable. There's a reason that the handchecking has gotten so out of hand--Stern wants to create another Jordan, because that means big money for the league.

Similarly a team like Phoenix lasting longer means more money for the league. So to assume that Stern doesn't have the league's financial interests at heart is just silly. Like others have said, his job depends on it.

The only possibility would be a Donaghy-like situation, but even if that were the case, why pick the Spurs? What benefit does that give him? All the Spurs do is kill what could potentially be much better playoff ratings. I mean if nothing else, he might as well cheat while doing what is most financially beneficial for the league, right? And especially every single year. I mean you'd think he'd want to mix it up a little bit to keep people on their toes.

[jaypo]

Why wouldn't you expect logic? Obviously if you don't think Bowen gets away with anything, you're either a Spurs fan or have the equivalent eyesight of Ray Charles. I've said it time and time again, my posts are MY OPINIONS!!! That's why I post here, to state and debate them. I don't expect to change yours, and you sure as hell won't change mine. Usually in here, when someone gets mad, they start questioning intelligence and logic and all of that childish crap. So evidently, I've made you mad. How? Did I point out something that is true that you are in denial over? Did I insult the NBA Golden Boy Tim Duncan?

I'll pose the same question to others on this board not named Nebroc or Harlemheat since they obviously are so insecure themselves that they have to resort to criticizing someone's posts (tear, tear)- agree or disagree with my opinion that Bowen is dirty and gets away with murder on the defensive end, Duncan is allowed to do the same things that put him on the line, Manu flops more than any 3 people in the NBA (if one of those 3 aren't Oberto), and Parker drives into defenders and falls down and gets put on the line more than anyone not named Wade. You can disagree if you like, but don't use the argument "this guy does it, so it's okay", or "your posts are stupid". Neither of those replies hold water. If you disagree, please tell me why. That's all. I'm going cut my grass. I'll be back in an hour.

[Nebroc]

Tim Duncan is the golden boy yet they never market him as much as Lebron and Kobe. Right.... It's hard not to question your intelligence when your conspiracy theories make no sense. I'm open to new ideas but your's are just dumb and illogical. You have yet to give us one reason why Stern would want the Spurs to win anything yet we have all showered you with answers as to why he would want them to lose. We are insecure? Your the one who feels the need to go around thread to thread spouting off your anti Spur propaganda. Tony Parker drives to the lanes and falls down often? Um, maybe someone should stop him from getting to the lane. That's why he drives, he knows some stupid defender will foul him. Again, say what you say about Bowen (who got suspended for NO REASON this season) but calling Tim dirty is a pretty baseless claim. Why do I say I wouldn't expect logic in your posts? Not because I think you're dumb because I have no idea if you believe the crazy stuff you post but because you emotions get the best of you and take over your posts making them nothing but whiney rants and complaints of biased officiating you have yet to give a motive for.

[WadeKnicks2010]

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Heh, I won't dispute that the Jordan Bulls got plenty of calls in their day but that wasn't in the top 100 worst officiated games in NBA history.

It was consistent back then. That's the difference between then and now. Both teams equally got away with stuff. Nowadays one team gets to kill people and the other... well its just hard to put in words. Some of the calls make no sense whatsoever and are just arbitrarily made or not made with no discrimination or standardized logic whatsoever.

[jaypo]

Nebroc-in case you didn't notice, I already said that I jokingly call the Spurs the "Sterns" because I think it's funny. I don't think that Stern has anything to gain by fixing games. I simply say that the games are called differently for the Spurs (and for that matter, for Lebron). I've watched Tim Duncan since he came into the league, and he is allowed to use his shoulders, run over people and foul people without getting into foul trouble while those who guard him can't even breathe on him without sending him to the line. He may not be marketed as much, but he sure does get away with as much as any of those guys. I never called him dirty- I called Bowen dirty (if I switched the 2, my bad). If my conspriacy theories make no sense, why is it that every player that Bruce Bowen has guarded has voiced their anger over the way he plays? There is video evidence!!!!! Go to Youtube. Watch as he kicks Nash in the seeds, kicks Amare's achilles tendon, "accidently" places his foot under Ray Allen and Vince Carter's feet as they're landing. I don't make this stuff up. You say I have no basis for my arguments, and I say to you that I have factual evidence!! I've seen all of those replays time and time again. They're on Sportcenter!!!!! How do you deny that? I'm not saying that I think the officials are or aren't biased, or why they might be. I am telling you what I observe as I watch the NBA. I say your arguments are false and illogical. How can you say that you have proof that one game is the worst officiated game? Worse is a relative term. Worse is also largely based on opinion. My opinion is that games 1-6 of the Kings Lakers series were tilted toward the Kings. Maybe game 6 was tilted to the Lakers. I say they earned one!

And the last time I checked, this thread is about biased officiating, so I would assume that this is the place to rant. Now, since you are the expert and I the novice about posting with substance and reason, what is the FACTUAL EVIDENCE that you have about whatever game you think is the worst officiated game of all time? The fact that someone shot more Ft's? We've already covered that that is not a good argument because the aggressive team goes to the line more. So what's next? If you're gonna blast me for posting without logic, let's see some of your "super intelligent" banter. Hit me up with your arguments against my claims about the Spurs. Or, if you'd like, pick another team. I'll debate that with you also. But please quit avoiding all of the questions I pose to you. I'm not anti-Spur. I'm anti-any team that relies on their acting and favorable calls to win. I'd prefer to watch a team that relies on their talent, one whose players man up and defend rather than fall down, and players that drive to the hoop and don't fall down just to get to the foul line. But that's just me being illogical, I guess.

[Nebroc]

Tim Duncan has never ever gotten a away with a foul. We can do this, forever can't we? You talk about Bowen tripping people by accident but you don't bring up things like Parker getting hammered on every play and teams just taking swings at Tim's hands to strip the ball from him and not getting called for it in the first two games. You're not anti-Spur? Well you sure do find alot of time to whine about them according to your post history. The Spurs beat teams because their better and harder working, but I wouldn't expect some illogical, blind, biased fool to recognize that. Suns fan or Laker fan by the way?

[jaypo]

Okay, Nebroc. Are you watching the game right now? Chandler's 2 fouls- bullspit. Parker runs over Paul- no call. He gets the ball grabbed on the same play- and 1. If you can't see that, you're as ignorant as I think you are. Neither Lakers nor Suns fan. Shaq fan. Fan of NBA players, not actors. Fan of players that rely on their skill to win, not on the calls.

[jaypo]

Even with the crappy calls, when your team hits shots, it's hard to beat them! Hence the game last night! I'm thru with this discussion, because by your recent posts, it's quite obvious that you have no clue what you're talking about. See ya guys!