Building A Franchise
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Re: Building A Franchise
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ponder276
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Re: Building A Franchise
I gotta take LeBron now and for the future. He took an absolutely terrible team to the finals in 06/07, and last year took an equally bad team to the 2nd round, losing in 7 to the eventual champions, the Boston Celtics. Surround him with some solid talent and he's a lock to win many, many championships.
Re: Building A Franchise
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Wiz99
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What you guys are essentially arguing about is how many superstars there are in the league that you can build a contender around.
Here's a good article. Pretty convincingly says there are 18 guys in the league right now who, historically, looking back to 1956, have the talent. This is over their careers, not necessarily right now. Further, they're divided into Gold Medal Talent, Silver and Bronze, where gold is an all-time great, silver are players who have been great for several years but merely very good for the rest of their career, and bronze indicates a top 15 caliber player but not the league's greatest.
GOLD
Tim Duncan
Shaq
Kobe
LBJ
KG
Silver
Dirk
Nash
TMac
Kidd
AI
Chris Paul
DWade
Ben Wallace
Bronze
Amare
Dwight Howard
JO
Arenas
Billups
Billups proves an interesting point: you don't have to have a Gold level star if you have a running mate like Big Ben who's also on the list, the supporting cast is great (Rip, Sheed, Prince), the coach is on target (Brown), and you get the right breaks on who you play (the 03-04 Pistons faced an East at its weakest with only Indy as legit competition, and a Lakers squad where Karl, GP, Kobe and Diesel bickered itself out of a ring).
Here's a good article. Pretty convincingly says there are 18 guys in the league right now who, historically, looking back to 1956, have the talent. This is over their careers, not necessarily right now. Further, they're divided into Gold Medal Talent, Silver and Bronze, where gold is an all-time great, silver are players who have been great for several years but merely very good for the rest of their career, and bronze indicates a top 15 caliber player but not the league's greatest.
GOLD
Tim Duncan
Shaq
Kobe
LBJ
KG
Silver
Dirk
Nash
TMac
Kidd
AI
Chris Paul
DWade
Ben Wallace
Bronze
Amare
Dwight Howard
JO
Arenas
Billups
Billups proves an interesting point: you don't have to have a Gold level star if you have a running mate like Big Ben who's also on the list, the supporting cast is great (Rip, Sheed, Prince), the coach is on target (Brown), and you get the right breaks on who you play (the 03-04 Pistons faced an East at its weakest with only Indy as legit competition, and a Lakers squad where Karl, GP, Kobe and Diesel bickered itself out of a ring).