Sun's don't look like an NBA team on defense

[Cactus Jack]

If I were a Suns fan tanking wouldn't be very appealing because they aren't the best drafters and there's always a chance of a bust. They have plenty of young players already. Those guys would discourage you from believing in it. Admittedly, that might be the best plan nonetheless.

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Yeah, it's tough. Bender was a bad pick. Jackson has been a disappointment so far. Outside of Booker, they haven't done a good enough job of drafting & roster management. They've pulled off some awful trades. The IT for Knight swap has been a giant cluster****. Really set the franchise back. They need a new GM ASAP! & hire a decent coach.

[DoItALL9]

& owner some would say.

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[Jkam31]

Marquese Chriss gives me Anthony Bennett flashbacks sometimes.

Marquese Chriss is bad. So so bad.

Dbooker as the leader of this team need to sacrifice some of his scoring and put some more effort on defense. Right now hes very good offensive talent whos statpadding for that max contract.

Vlade was crucified for trading him away I’d easily take Papa G and Skal over him let alone Bogdanovic.


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[Cactus Jack]

& owner some would say.

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Yeah, Sarver is awful. He reminds me too much of the Sonics previous owner (Schultz). You see why the Suns are as bad as they are.

[UcanUwill]

Marquese Chriss gives me Anthony Bennett flashbacks sometimes.

Marquese Chriss is bad. So so bad.

Dbooker as the leader of this team need to sacrifice some of his scoring and put some more effort on defense. Right now hes very good offensive talent whos statpadding for that max contract.

Vlade was crucified for trading him away I’d easily take Papa G and Skal over him let alone Bogdanovic.


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How Bogdanovic doing anyway? I see his percentages are not as good as it was in Europe, which is common translation period for most Euro stars. Honestly never was high on him that much, but still interested to see how he does in NBA.

[SlowPaced]

They're trash on defense, but on that play I think they were just happy with Marcus Smart taking wide open threes. Messed up by leaving Al Horford open in the end though.

[Edug27]

In their defense I would give Smart ten feet to take threes also...though he is up to 30% now.

Right. It’s actually the best defensive plan against him. If you get too close, he might pump fake and make a good pass.

[Richard Miller]

The first clip doesn't look like a basketball team, let alone an NBA team.

[phanman]

Well they are clearly rebuilding and doing it the Hinkie way

Not only do they have their own draft pick, they are now also in possession of:
- Miami's 2018 pick(protected 1-7, then unprotected in 2019)
- Milwaukee's 2018 pick(if its between 11-16, otherwise 4-16 in 2019, or 1-7 protected)

Their roster construction is a mess. They have 4 young bigs in Bender, Len, Monroe and Chriss, yet Chandler is still playing meaningful minutes. Brandon Knight is currently dead money @ ~15m/year, with undrafted Mike James and 2nd round pick Tyler Ulis duking it out for the PG nod.

Josh Jackson has not had a great start to his career, and as a 4th overall pick lost his starting spot after just 3 games and has seen his minutes dwindling in that last 10.

[JunkYardDog6ix]

Silver needs to send out a memo. Opposing teams are running scrimmages against them.

I've been hearing the murmurs but last night I actually saw them live and it looked like Harlem Globetrotters.
Old man Ibaka looked like OKC Ibaka.

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Yeah this is Vintage Jay Triano coaching. Although he has stepped it up a bit. His defense ( or lack thereof) looks even worse than when he was coaching the Raptors.

I'm surprised people still think he can coach , I've watched him coach and listen to him speak and he's just an idiot.

[Shock Defeat]

Great defense on that clip, their only mistake was not securing a rebound. Giving Marcus Smart open looks is what you're supposed to do.

[King4Day]

- The Ball triple double game happened when there was dysfunction with Watson and Bledsoe. Bledsoe intentionally played awful in order to get the ball rolling on him being moved.
- The defense hasn't been good but the team is insanely young. Blame Triano all you want but he is basically teaching this team from scratch. Some games the Suns look good and some they don't.
- As bad as the D looked in that play against Boston, I do recall Boston giving up 111 too so maybe talk about how they let a crappy Suns team score on their own floor, at their leisure.

- Josh Jackson didn't pair well with Warren and they decided to put in a more experienced Chriss instead. That was the first change Triano made if I recall correctly. It wasn't a team giving up on him as suggested.
- For people saying Jackson is a bust, he's still finding himself and has had solid flashes of excellent defense.
To say he was a bad pick is laughable considering he was a consensus top 3 pick for a long time. Most teams would have made the same selection if in that position and most fans in this thread would have been ecstatic had their team landed him. It's way too early to say one player isn't going to be good or not.

You guys enjoy picking on a rebuilding franchise. That's like saying the Bulls or Kings suck. NO ****! Why does anyone think they'd be good? It's like there's nothing else to talk about....

[sunsbum]

Marquese Chriss is bad. So so bad.

Dbooker as the leader of this team need to sacrifice some of his scoring and put some more effort on defense. Right now hes very good offensive talent whos statpadding for that max contract.

So you've never watched Booker play outside of YouTube highlights this year is what this tells me.

[NTB]

Marquese Chriss gives me Anthony Bennett flashbacks sometimes.

Marquese Chriss is bad. So so bad.

Dbooker as the leader of this team need to sacrifice some of his scoring and put some more effort on defense. Right now hes very good offensive talent whos statpadding for that max contract.

Vlade was crucified for trading him away I’d easily take Papa G and Skal over him let alone Bogdanovic.


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Skal is in G-League.

[Damkac]

If I were a Suns fan tanking wouldn't be very appealing because they aren't the best drafters and there's always a chance of a bust. They have plenty of young players already. Those guys would discourage you from believing in it. Admittedly, that might be the best plan nonetheless.

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Yeah, it's tough. Bender was a bad pick. Jackson has been a disappointment so far. Outside of Booker, they haven't done a good enough job of drafting & roster management. They've pulled off some awful trades. The IT for Knight swap has been a giant cluster****. Really set the franchise back. They need a new GM ASAP! & hire a decent coach.

TJ Warren at 14 was great pick. It's too early to call Bender, Chriss and especially Jackson busts.

[jazzfan1971]

Silver needs to send out a memo. Opposing teams are running scrimmages against them.

I've been hearing the murmurs but last night I actually saw them live and it looked like Harlem Globetrotters.
Old man Ibaka looked like OKC Ibaka.

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My theory: All the suns players heard a fan blow a whistle and thought play stopped. And they were simply waiting for the other team to quit jack-hatting around and inbound the ball.

[DoItALL9]

If I were a Suns fan tanking wouldn't be very appealing because they aren't the best drafters and there's always a chance of a bust. They have plenty of young players already. Those guys would discourage you from believing in it. Admittedly, that might be the best plan nonetheless.

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Yeah, it's tough. Bender was a bad pick. Jackson has been a disappointment so far. Outside of Booker, they haven't done a good enough job of drafting & roster management. They've pulled off some awful trades. The IT for Knight swap has been a giant cluster****. Really set the franchise back. They need a new GM ASAP! & hire a decent coach.

TJ Warren at 14 was great pick. It's too early to call Bender, Chriss and especially Jackson busts.

Warren is fine for his draft position I guess. I don't get excited about his play. Without calling the other 3 busts if you had to choose being terrible for the last 3 years to get them or be a treadmill team such as Atlanta or Indiana I would've rather have been on the treadmill.

Don't forget Alex Len

Looking to championship aspirations, who's farther away today?

[dacrusha]

- The defense hasn't been good but the team is insanely young. Blame Triano all you want but he is basically teaching this team from scratch. Some games the Suns look good and some they don't.

You guys enjoy picking on a rebuilding franchise. That's like saying the Bulls or Kings suck. NO ****! Why does anyone think they'd be good? It's like there's nothing else to talk about....

Bulls and Kings are at least trying on defense; problem with the Suns is not that they're young and inexperienced, it's that they're all so lazy and entitled:

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[taj2133]

when you give up 90 points at halftime i don't care who you play you know you are a bad defensive team. There is no way anybody can defend giving up 90 points that is lack off effort.

[Cactus Jack]

If I were a Suns fan tanking wouldn't be very appealing because they aren't the best drafters and there's always a chance of a bust. They have plenty of young players already. Those guys would discourage you from believing in it. Admittedly, that might be the best plan nonetheless.

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Yeah, it's tough. Bender was a bad pick. Jackson has been a disappointment so far. Outside of Booker, they haven't done a good enough job of drafting & roster management. They've pulled off some awful trades. The IT for Knight swap has been a giant cluster****. Really set the franchise back. They need a new GM ASAP! & hire a decent coach.

TJ Warren at 14 was great pick. It's too early to call Bender, Chriss and especially Jackson busts.

Bender & Chriss are both role players. I've followed Chriss since his days at UW. He is what you see. As a player, his ceiling is Markieff Morris. Nothing more. I didn't like the Bender pick at the time & so far I've been proven right as well. He wasn't worth the gamble for a top 5 pick.

I like Jackson but he's very raw. He needs to develop a jump shot or he will bust.