Lol what? Are you really saying that Bosh and Wade are peanuts? Nobody got excited for Pippen and Grant bro lol. A healthy Bosh + Wade team took Heat to ECSF in 2015-16 season, without Lebron. That's 31 year old Bosh and 33 year old Wade, yeah peanuts!
How is it not an argument? with MJ, his team turned into a dynasty team. I can't even make a case for Lebron, because Lebron has never reached that height. The Bad Boys Pistons won 2, LeBron's Heat won 2, Steph and KD won 2. MJ lead the Bulls to 3-peat not once, but twice. Having MJ allowed that team to be that dominant. With Lebron you may win not 1...not 2 ... not 3... not 4... not 5... but you probably win 2 out of 4 or 5 tries despite having other 2 Top 10 players on your team. You're not likely to 3-peat, or build a dynasty (nope never happened). From winning perspective, they're not even in the same class. I don't think you've watched MJ, which is fine, Lebron is the GOAT in your lifetime. It's hard to compare players that you never seen play.
That Miami team won 37 games the year prior AND, that Miami team also was barely even reminiscent of that Lebron team.
Bosh played 53 games. And after that the main guys in minutes per game were Dragic, Deng, Joe Johnson (24 games), Wade, Whiteside, Winslow, Johnson, Green.
So... like none of those guys were even on those Heat teams. Add Lebron to that roster and they win 65 games probably because a Dragic/Wade/Lebron/Bosh/Whiteside team would blow the 2010-2014 big 3 Heat out of the **** water.
So again, Bulls without MJ + Kukoc were good. Heat/Lakers/Cavs without Lebron were always trash, peaking at a 37 win season when Lebron left the Heat AND his two co-stars stuck around AND signed Dragic/Deng.
It’s just not even a conversation man. You’re wrong here and trying to use future seasons as an argument that is pro MJ just doesn’t work.
Trying to use “he never 3-peated” is a ridiculous argument because again, you completely ignore team composition and the opponents.
If KD doesn’t join the Warriors it’s 100% possible LBJ wins 4 straight rings. If MJ had to face the Utah Jazz but they also had Charles Barkley guess what.. MJ is probably 4-2 in the finals.
But **** Lebron for not beating a 73 win team who added a legitimate MVP candidate in his prime, right? MJ WOULD NEVER.
Not even considering that MJ straight up retired for 2 years. That should reflect negatively on MJ as that’s two years he was a potential player that he never played. If he doesn’t retire who knows, maybe they lose still that year and suddenly this illusion of MJ is the indisputable goat isn’t as wildly acclaimed
Edit: just had to LOL at Lebron never being on a Dynasty. Taking 2 straight teams to 4 straight finals and getting 4 rings is a **** dynasty.