Is the experiment in Miami is failing?

Biohazard · Post #101 » by **Biohazard** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:00 am

paul07ss wrote:Think in the Miami board they had a thread titled "How will they stop us"

Harcore Fenton Mun · Post #102 » by **Harcore Fenton Mun** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:07 am

More Miami fans who joined over the summer defending their bandwagoning.

Check the join dates on all of them.... Bunch of posers! :lol:

TheMartian · Post #103 » by **TheMartian** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:41 am

nonemus wrote:
mzepol wrote:
umopapisdn wrote:They haven't lost the championship yet, so it's too soon to say.

How can they lose something they haven't won yet? Sorry, just nitpicking.

How can they win something they haven't started yet?

Huh? As far as I know, the championship is the Lakers' to lose, not anyone else's. I was nitpicking on the statement "They haven't lost the championship yet" which implies that the championship is the Heat's to lose, when in fact they aren't even the defending champions.

Endorush · Post #104 » by **Endorush** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:54 pm

it would certainly appear that way

JAYZGOAT · Post #105 » by **JAYZGOAT** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:08 pm

They will find a good center some how. Because the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

Post #106 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:27 pm

azuresou1 wrote:
MiamiNative0722 wrote:Troll threads, gotta love em

After all the U MAD threads/posts? You bet.

Exactly. Miami fans largely brought this on themselves along with the decision.

menofvalor · Post #107 » by **menofvalor** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:31 pm

OMFG get over it, some of you guys act like a bunch of pregnant women.

Dr Positivity · Post #108 » by **Dr Positivity** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:07 pm

I feel like making a U Missing Heart? sig over a pic of the big 3

The Heat have as much in common with the 90s Bulls as the Jonas Brothers do with the Beatles. Sure both the Heat and the 91-93 Bulls have the two star wings and a jumpshooting PF. Sure both the Joni and the Beatles sing pop fans with a lot of crazy girl fans. But this is only a surface comparison

Last night was one of the most gutless performances I've seen. It came off as strongly to me as Lebron's Game 5 last year. Barring a Pat Riley miracle in the coaching spot, the Heat do not have the fight or character to win an NBA title this year. If they did they wouldn't have played like THAT after the loss on opening night, on their floor. They would've taken it to the Cs.

I don't think Wade and Lebron can work. They don't look happy sharing the ball. People want to trade Bosh but I don't think he's the issue here. He's hardly even a 3rd option on this team, Wade and Lebron take the touches of the top 3 options himself so Bosh is like a 3.5 or 4. His lack of rebounding is inexcusable though.

When Lebron was in Cleveland he was a kid in toy shop. Here Lebron, here's your toys Mo Williams, Anderson Varejao, Shaq, etc. Play with them and win games. Lebron is being limited beside Wade. I'd trade Wade and bring back the 30/8/8 Lebron, make Bosh the 2nd option, then fill the backcourt with shooters and the C position with a defense/rebounding guy and get a good bench. Basically make the Cavs + Chris Bosh

Ironically the best trade would be Wade for Mo Williams and Anderson Varejao

Malinhion · Post #109 » by **Malinhion** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:09 pm

Dr Mufasa wrote:Ironically the best trade would be Wade for Mo Williams and Anderson Varejao

Someone has been hogging the good stuff.

Dr Positivity · Post #110 » by **Dr Positivity** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:11 pm

The Decision is looking like an all-time bad decision. Lebron shot his own legacy both by limiting his production and making everyone hate him and the team isn't even better than Cleveland for it. This is a tragedy. The greatest talent of all time shot himself in the head.

Dr Positivity · Post #111 » by **Dr Positivity** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:12 pm

Malinhion wrote:
Dr Mufasa wrote:Ironically the best trade would be Wade for Mo Williams and Anderson Varejao

Someone has been hogging the good stuff.

I have no hesitance saying a starting lineup of Mo Williams, Mike Miller, Lebron, Bosh, and Varejao is better than this Heat team.

JustAwesome · Post #112 » by **JustAwesome** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:18 pm

Is the experiment failing? They're 9 games into an 82 games season. People assume chemistry is something that happens immediately. It doesn't. It might not even happen this season.

Malinhion · Post #113 » by **Malinhion** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:22 pm

TheOUTLAW wrote:
azuresou1 wrote:After all the U MAD threads/posts? You bet.

Exactly. Miami fans largely brought this on themselves along with the decision.

A lot of people were crying like babies, and I have to say that in a lot of instances the U MAD? nonsense was warranted.

NBA fans in general were just acting psychotic after LeBron changed teams. A lot of Miami fans were, in usual Miami fashion, acting arrogant. But a lot of fans of other teams (Knicks, Bulls, Cavs mainly) were whining like bitches. So it cuts both ways.

Acting like the post-Decision basketball world was being pious and upright is nonsense. They wanted blood and they were ready to throw the Christians to the lions.

BBall_IQ · Post #114 » by **BBall_IQ** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:25 pm

Dr Mufasa wrote:
Malinhion wrote:
Dr Mufasa wrote:Ironically the best trade would be Wade for Mo Williams and Anderson Varejao

Someone has been hogging the good stuff.

I have no hesitance saying a starting lineup of Mo Williams, Mike Miller, Lebron, Bosh, and Varejao is better than this Heat team.

And your credibility went out the door...

desertlakerfan · Post #115 » by **desertlakerfan** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:26 pm

JustAwesome wrote:Is the experiment failing? They're 9 games into an 82 games season. People assume chemistry is something that happens immediately. It doesn't. It might not even happen this season.

While it is still early in the season, team chemistry on the court isn't something you can force. If the pieces don't complement each other, they won't be successful against championship caliber teams who do have parts that complement one another and work well together. That won't change just from playing more games together, that change comes from either the pieces changing their game drastically or from bringing in new pieces.

Can Wade or Lebron play the "spot up shooter running off screens" role that Ray Allen does so well? Can Bosh ever be a effective player without being force fed the ball like he was in Toronto? These are very legit questions that need to be answered if Miami wants any shot at winning A title let alone multiple titles with the "big 3".

Malinhion · Post #116 » by **Malinhion** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:27 pm

desertlakerfan wrote:While it is still early in the season, team chemistry on the court isn't something you can force. If the pieces don't complement each other, they won't be successful against championship caliber teams who do have parts that complement one another and work well together. That won't change just from playing more games together, that change comes from either the pieces changing their game drastically or from bringing in new pieces.

Three words:

O.lymp.ics.

desertlakerfan · Post #117 » by **desertlakerfan** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:28 pm

Malinhion wrote:
desertlakerfan wrote:While it is still early in the season, team chemistry on the court isn't something you can force. If the pieces don't complement each other, they won't be successful against championship caliber teams who do have parts that complement one another and work well together. That won't change just from playing more games together, that change comes from either the pieces changing their game drastically or from bringing in new pieces.

Three words:

Olympics.

Olympic competition is much different than the NBA. I'm not sure why this needs to be explained, but apparently some Miami fans still don't get it.

Malinhion · Post #118 » by **Malinhion** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:32 pm

desertlakerfan wrote:
Malinhion wrote:
desertlakerfan wrote:While it is still early in the season, team chemistry on the court isn't something you can force. If the pieces don't complement each other, they won't be successful against championship caliber teams who do have parts that complement one another and work well together. That won't change just from playing more games together, that change comes from either the pieces changing their game drastically or from bringing in new pieces.

Three words:

Olympics.

Olympic competition is much different than the NBA. I'm not sure why this needs to be explained, but apparently some Miami fans still don't get it.

It's basketball. Your assertion is that these guys will never get it playing together despite the fact that they won a gold medal doing so.

Dr Positivity · Post #119 » by **Dr Positivity** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:34 pm

BBall_IQ wrote:
Dr Mufasa wrote:
I have no hesitance saying a starting lineup of Mo Williams, Mike Miller, Lebron, Bosh, and Varejao is better than this Heat team.

And your credibility went out the door...

Lebron, shooters, and Andy won 66 and 62 games the last two years. And I'm pretty sure Bosh would fit right in as a 2nd option with lots of floor spacing and another rebounder. At the very least they're as good as those Cavs teams. Who look better than the Heat as of now, at least to me

desertlakerfan · Post #120 » by **desertlakerfan** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:36 pm

Malinhion wrote:
It's basketball. Your assertion is that these guys will never get it playing together despite the fact that they won a gold medal doing so.

First I'm not asserting they will never get it together, I'm asserting that it will be very difficult without them drastically changing their playstyles or changing their roster. Taking turns ISO'ing opponents might work in the Olympics but not in the NBA against quality competition.

You play against varying levels of competition, national teams are much different than NBA teams, doubly so when you compare them to championship caliber teams like the Lakers and Celtics. Just because a bunch of first options can do well against other teams that rarely play together doesn't mean they'll have the same level of success against teams that are the best in the NBA.