Are the Orlando Magic a better team with the moves made?

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Are the Orlando Magic going to be a better team with the moves made?

Orlando Magic will be better with these moves
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Orlando Magic will be a worse team with these moves
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This is just a lateral move for the Orlando Magic
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Re: Are the Orlando Magic a better team with the moves made? 

Post#101 » by Den Masters » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:53 pm

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Kc17 wrote:The biggest black mark on the trades for Orlando is Hedo. People act like he wasn't given the ball enough in Toronto, when in reality he got the ball A LOT and just couldn't produce. Perhaps going back to Orlando will help him find some of the motivation that may have been lacking on Toronto and Phoenix, but his contract is just ugly and I personally believe he's on the decline.

I do think people are sleeping on the acquisitions of JRich and Arenas though, Richardson is having a great year, and I still think Arenas is good.


People forget that he excelled in the year Jameer went down. More specifically, he excelled as SOON as Meer went down. And since Rafer wasn't a ball dominant PG, Hedo had the ball often, wayyy more than in TO and PHX. THere's absolutely no way he'll go back to his old self on this new Magic team.

Too many ball handlers/scorers. Otis panicked, and he's in love with Hedo. But apparently Hedo waived a year off his contract to get out of TO? So Otis feels better.



yup, that was the deal breaker. hedo waived a year off his contract. that's why otis went to get him back because hedo's contract is now cheaper and more affordable.
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Re: Are the Orlando Magic a better team with the moves made? 

Post#102 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:54 pm

Pomme wrote:I like the Shard for Gilbert. Other than that, its downhill. Why would magic wants hedo back after seeing his performances in toronto/phx.


Well like every single Magic fan try to tell Raps fans...Hedo is a system player. His style of play suites SVG system. I dont think we'll get the same hedo we had a couple years back but I do think he'll play better in this system than he did in Toronto and PHX.

Arenas for Lewis is a damn steal, you get another bad contract but you get a player thats actually contributing, I dont like that the team lost Gortat and honestly it doesnt make sense to move your only back up center which leads me to believe that maybe another minor trade is in the works.

I think it's a clear improvment on paper, we'll see how it all comes together.
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Re: Are the Orlando Magic a better team with the moves made? 

Post#103 » by Den Masters » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:54 pm

Kc17 wrote:No, Hedo only waived his trade kicker.

Still 4yrs/44 million left of the contract, I think.



no, waived one year off his contract.
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Post#104 » by now and 4 life » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:55 pm

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Kc17 wrote:No, Hedo only waived his trade kicker.

Still 4yrs/44 million left of the contract, I think.



no, waived one year off his contract.

Not true it is partially guarateed for an unkown amount.
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Re: Are the Orlando Magic a better team with the moves made? 

Post#105 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:00 am

Better, but not by much. They will be better offensively, but worse defensively. They should also try to trade Nelson for a big or decent wing defender
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Post#106 » by Mr Burns » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:00 am

Richardson and Arenas are the best players in that trade, and they both went to Orlando so its a given that they are a much better team on paper. Carter was garbage, Gortat was not getting many minutes and Pietrus is an overrated defender so its not like Orlando gutted out the roster to add talent. The only thing I do not like about this trade for Orlando are the horrible contracts they took on, but at least they got rid of lewis.
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Post#107 » by schematics » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:02 am

SUN wrote:Who's backing up Howard at the C?


QFT! I mean they have fire power but Howard is known for getting in foul trouble so they def needed Gortat plus going against Celt's bigs n hopefully Laker's bigs they will def need a solid backup C
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Post#108 » by Jose_Matador » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:05 am

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SUN wrote:Who's backing up Howard at the C?


QFT! I mean they have fire power but Howard is known for getting in foul trouble so they def needed Gortat plus going against Celt's bigs n hopefully Laker's bigs they will def need a solid backup C
All they really need to backup Howard is an over the hill Theo Ratliff type player, that can be acquired for the minimum.
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Post#109 » by Wavy Q » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:05 am

the real question is who's going to be their starting center soon
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Post#110 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:05 am

They are much better off on the perimeter but now they lack the back-up big for Howard. I rather take the play-making and scoring that Richardson/Arenas/Hedo bring than the back-up minutes Gortat gives you. Great trade for the Magic.
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Post#111 » by JustDwight » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:06 am

Local broadcast team for tonights game just said they believe a trade could be coming for another C. For the time being I'm guessing they'll go w/ a mix of B.Bass and Allen.
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Post#112 » by Vinsane15 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:07 am

haha so they got 2 of the most overpaid players in the NBA. Magic fans were crying for Hedo, omg their savior that got them to the finals. Newsflash, if KG played in that series than Orl would have gotten whopped like last year. Now Hedon't sucks more. J-Rich is ok, he will always be known as a poor man's VC. Arenas? hes 28, and looking like hes a 38 year old out there. Dwight is all but gone....''
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Post#113 » by Den Masters » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:08 am

There has to be another trade for a backup C.


I'm guessing that Duhon will be out. They have Meer, Arenas, and JWill who can play PG. Plus, Turkoglu is there.


Wonder who's the backup C thought. Maybe Duhon + picks for a backup C? I can't imagine ORL trading Bass or Anderson at this point.
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Re: Are the Orlando Magic a better team with the moves made? 

Post#114 » by Den Masters » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:10 am

Vinsane15 wrote:haha so they got 2 of the most overpaid players in the NBA. Magic fans were crying for Hedo, omg their savior that got them to the finals. Newsflash, if KG played in that series than Orl would have gotten whopped like last year. Now Hedon't sucks more. J-Rich is ok, he will always be known as a poor man's VC. Arenas? hes 28, and looking like hes a 38 year old out there. Dwight is all but gone....''
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Post#115 » by Young_Star11 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:11 am

Arenas will have a chip on his shoulder, because playing in Washington after what's gone down in the past few years has been tough on him. It's Wall's team already.

Not completely sold on J-Rich - Nash created a lot for him in Phoenix. That being said, he's in a contract year and has been stroking the three-point shot very nicely this season.

Losing Shard is no big loss. Pietrus is 'potential' and nothing else - he's failed and failed to deliver. Gortat is a bit of a loss because he showed he can be a solid backup center - but paying him what ORL were paying him for 10-15 minutes a game didn't provide great value for them.
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Post#116 » by MitchellUK » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:11 am

Vinsane15 wrote:haha so they got 2 of the most overpaid players in the NBA. Magic fans were crying for Hedo, omg their savour that got them to the finals. Newsflash, if KG played in that series than Orl will have gotten whopped like last year. Now Hedon't sucks more. J-Rich is ok, he will always be known as a poor man's VC. Arenas? hes 28, and looking like hes a 38 year old out there. Dwight is all but gone....''
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Lol, no-one was crying out for Hedo, and most people were exceptionally disappointed the VC experiment didn't work out.

Also, I really don't feel like the Magic will miss you. Good luck following whichever team VC lands on this summer.
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Post#117 » by Jose_Matador » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:12 am

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Vinsane15 wrote:haha so they got 2 of the most overpaid players in the NBA. Magic fans were crying for Hedo, omg their savior that got them to the finals. Newsflash, if KG played in that series than Orl would have gotten whopped like last year. Now Hedon't sucks more. J-Rich is ok, he will always be known as a poor man's VC. Arenas? hes 28, and looking like hes a 38 year old out there. Dwight is all but gone....''
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Re: Are the Orlando Magic a better team with the moves made? 

Post#118 » by Den Masters » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:12 am

Young_Star11 wrote:Arenas will have a chip on his shoulder, because playing in Washington after what's gone down in the past few years has been tough on him. It's Wall's team already.

Not completely sold on J-Rich - Nash created a lot for him in Phoenix. That being said, he's in a contract year and has been stroking the three-point shot very nicely this season.

Losing Shard is no big loss. Pietrus is 'potential' and nothing else - he's failed and failed to deliver. Gortat is a bit of a loss because he showed he can be a solid backup center - but paying him what ORL were paying him for 10-15 minutes a game didn't provide great value for them.



Pietrus failed to deliver? Did you even see what he did against Cavs/LeBron in the playoffs?
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Post#119 » by JustDwight » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:13 am

Vinsane15 wrote:haha so they got 2 of the most overpaid players in the NBA. Magic fans were crying for Hedo, omg their savour that got them to the finals. Newsflash, if KG played in that series than Orl will have gotten whopped like last year. Now Hedon't sucks more. J-Rich is ok, he will always be known as a poor man's VC. Arenas? hes 28, and looking like hes a 38 year old out there. Dwight is all but gone....''
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Lol whatever VC boy. J-rich ok? Leading the NBA in 3's made and being the Suns lead scorer has got to give him a little more credit than that. Gilbert will be a star in Orl w/ Dwight and Hedo is clutch in the 4th on the reg in Orl which is always nice.
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Post#120 » by Jose_Matador » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:14 am

Arena's will probably win the starting job come playoff time. Also if Hedo can return back to his pre-Raptor form ORL will be the favorites out the South East.

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