Byron Mullens

[Leolovinliberal]

Impressive. Four rebounds is pretty pathetic though. If he improves that, he should at least be a serviceable backup big.

Yeah, he's gotta work on the rebounding, but he did have 15/10 in his previous game. As an aside, here are the numbers for last nights game of the players that the Prestiites keep telling us are better than Mulley and kept him on the bench. What's your opinion of those stats?


Ibaka: 4 and 6
Perkins 0 and 3
Nazr 4 and 4
Collison 8 and 0
Aldrich: DNP-CD

Totally different situations. For one, all of them are there for defense, not offense. (Although Collison is a very good offensive player for his role)

I've watched every Bobcat game thus far and Mulley isn't nearly as bad on defense as the Prestiites would have had me believe. The way they were degrading him, it was as if he were the worst defending big man ever. He's not, not at all. He's not great, but he's not horrific either. Those numbers from the OKC bigs last night are pathetic. All of them combined had 5 less points than Byron and 9 more rebounds. And this guy was glued on the bench behind them? SMH.

[Krodis]

The Thunder are currently #1 in Offensive Rating. And they run all the offense through the perimeter players. The big men are there to set screens and play defense. Nick Collison happens to also be an exceptional screen setter, excellent pick and roll player, and very good passer.

[fatlever]

strengths
great mid range shooter
quick release on jumper
offensive minded
good hands around the basket
can catch the ball in traffic
runs the floor well
legit 7footer
fairly mobile for a player his size
young with lots of room to improve
quick learner

weaknesses
needs to get stronger
doesnt always box out
gets pushed around under the basket
sometimes a hair slow on defensive rotations
passing is a concern
takes some quick shots when a pass and re-post might lead to a better shot

when you look at his strengths and weaknesses what is encouraging is that his weaknesses are things that are correctable or things he can improve, such as strength, boxing out, help defense recognition, shot selection, passing. the things he has in the plus column are the areas that are tough to come by such as shooting range, great touch, soft hands, size, mobility, bball iq

[SWedd523]

Impressive. Four rebounds is pretty pathetic though. If he improves that, he should at least be a serviceable backup big.

Don't see how it's any different than the starters Lopez and Bargnani, especially for the first start of his career.

[Leolovinliberal]

The Thunder are currently #1 in Offensive Rating. And they run all the offense through the perimeter players. The big men are there to set screens and play defense. Nick Collison happens to also be an exceptional screen setter, excellent pick and roll player, and very good passer.

Not to mention [i]ZERO[/i] rebounds in twenty one minutes last night.

[Krodis]

The Thunder are currently #1 in Offensive Rating. And they run all the offense through the perimeter players. The big men are there to set screens and play defense. Nick Collison happens to also be an exceptional screen setter, excellent pick and roll player, and very good passer.

Not to mention [i]ZERO[/i] rebounds in twenty one minutes last night.

The Thunder are probably the best perimeter rebounding team in the league, which sometimes eats at the bigs' rebounding numbers.

And I'm not so sure rebounding is a great thing to use in Mullens' defense.

[Leolovinliberal]

The Thunder are currently #1 in Offensive Rating. And they run all the offense through the perimeter players. The big men are there to set screens and play defense. Nick Collison happens to also be an exceptional screen setter, excellent pick and roll player, and very good passer.

Not to mention [i]ZERO[/i] rebounds in twenty one minutes last night.

The Thunder are probably the best perimeter rebounding team in the league, which sometimes eats at the bigs' rebounding numbers.

And I'm not so sure rebounding is a great thing to use in Mullens' defense.

Quite possibly the best spin that I have ever read on realgm. Congrats.
Here's another theory, they have to be because their bigs flat out suck at rebounding. BM isn't a great rebounder at all, but the last time that I checked 21/4 was better than 8/0, much better. Funny thing is you guys are arguing like he's a potential all star when up until this point, he's been glued to the bench as the 13th guy. Bottom line when a guy goes from averaging less than 2ppg to 13ppg, and was traded for essentially nothing, the gm made a mistake. What's sad id that you Thunder fans refuse to acknowledge it.

[Clangus]

you're doing a nice job trolling, but its not about how good Mullens is, its about fit. I don't know how many way or how many times people need to explain this to you, but its not that hard of a concept.

[Leolovinliberal]

you're doing a nice job trolling, but its not about how good Mullens is, its about fit. I don't know how many way or how many times people need to explain this to you, but its not that hard of a concept.

Trolling, lol. Aren't you the same guy that threw out the term "hater" simply because some people dared to say that Presti made a mistake? How does a guy that is putting up the kind of numbers that Mulley is putting up not fit in over guys like Nazr, Collison and Perk? Again, Collison had [i]ZERO[/i] rebounds in twenty one minutes last night. Is that a good fit? Bottom line: Mullens is showing, that when given minutes, he's a very productive player. Presti made a mistake, but you refuse to admit it. I think Presti is the best gm in the NBA, but he blew it with BM. He's human, no biggie.

[KembaWalker]

The only real funny thing about the trade is that Cho haggled Sam Presti into paying Mullens salary for the season as well. So he's basically making their organization look pretty dumb (at least to the less savvy public eye) on their own dime

[Leolovinliberal]

The only real funny thing about the trade is that Cho haggled Sam Presti into paying Mullens salary for the season as well. So he's basically making their organization look pretty dumb (at least to the less savvy public eye) on their own dime

I did not know that, that's awesome.

[Clangus]

you're doing a nice job trolling, but its not about how good Mullens is, its about fit. I don't know how many way or how many times people need to explain this to you, but its not that hard of a concept.

Trolling, lol. Aren't you the same guy that threw out the term "hater" simply because some people dared to say that Presti made a mistake? How does a guy that is putting up the kind of numbers that Mulley is putting up not fit in over guys like Nazr, Collison and Perk? Again, Collison had [i]ZERO[/i] rebounds in twenty one minutes last night. Is that a good fit? Bottom line: Mullens is showing, that when given minutes, he's a very productive player. Presti made a mistake, but you refuse to admit it. I think Presti is the best gm in the NBA, but he blew it with BM. He's human, no biggie.

you cant seriously be trying to use one game to knock Collison?
Read this thread on specifically the parts on Nick and then lets talk.
viewtopic.php?f=344&t=1135212
The Thunder are 10-2 I sure hope he keeps making the same kind of mistakes.

[Clangus]

Byron was a -26 today - worst on the team.

[Clangus]

The only real funny thing about the trade is that Cho haggled Sam Presti into paying Mullens salary for the season as well. So he's basically making their organization look pretty dumb (at least to the less savvy public eye) on their own dime

That i'll admit was well played by Cho.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Re: the rebounding thing, he's avging almost 4 oboards per 36 minutes which is pretty impressive. I don't think he hurts them on the glass especially if his teammates are grabbing a lot of the defensive rebounds.

[Clangus]

Re: the rebounding thing, he's avging almost 4 oboards per 36 minutes which is pretty impressive. I don't think he hurts them on the glass especially if his teammates are grabbing a lot of the defensive rebounds.

That is not even close to impressive??

[KembaWalker]

Byron was a -26 today - worst on the team.

Yeah because he played the most minutes and we were getting our asses kicked the whole game. He was literally the only bright spot on the whole team besides a couple Henderson plays

[Leolovinliberal]

Byron was a -26 today - worst on the team.

Awful, awful use of stats. There is no way you watched one second of the game.

[Clangus]

Byron was a -26 today - worst on the team.

Awful, awful use of stats. There is no way you watched one second of the game.

haha - you see what i did there
That is my point. You tried the same thing with Collison.

[Marino]

Mullens just didn't fit in OKC. I don't think it was a mistake to trade him, I think Charlotte got a good deal for him, but he is putting up decent numbers on an awful team. I think he will be a serviceable backup off the bench for the Bobcats, but he won't ever be a consistently starting 5 for Charlotte and I think Cho knows that.