Lin feeling disrespected?

California Gold · Post #101 » by **California Gold** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:03 pm

TheAlchemist wrote:Sooner or later players will start taking notice of how they get treated by Houston. Revolving door on a team that just got knocked out by Portland.

I'm sorry, but you have to treat your players with respect.

Lin and Asik are not players that are scrubs, they're decent to above average at the very least.

LOL ok

choppermagic · Post #102 » by **choppermagic** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:04 pm

Superstars have joined other teams in the past. Only after that do they ask players to give up their jersey numbers for them, in some cases pay them to do so, or simply pick another jersey number.

Lin is a teammate. RIght now, he deserves respect for being part of the team that he fought with over the last couple years. It smacks of a lack of class.

sca · Post #103 » by **sca** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:04 pm

Harden2Dwight wrote:
lukekarts wrote:
Harden2Dwight wrote:I dont see why some people have a problem with this...It's jeremy lin compared to melo...

morey's presentation involved him using a pic of melo in his current jersey number holding a nba title. It wouldnt have been the same effect if it was melo with a blank rockets jersey on. Lin is just butthurt.

Rockets did the same exact same thing last year with beverley for dwight and beverley didnt get hurt. Lin is average anyway so even if he gets pissed we could easily find an upgrade once we let him go.

All they needed to do, to not be disrespectful, would be to put up a picture of Melo in a Rockets uniform without using his number 7 on the photoshop.

It's not hard. Yeah I get that Lin is out the door if Melo comes in... but if that doesn't happen, all they've achieved is alienated their own player.

Is Lin getting his number 7 jersey retired?

When has Lin left your team?

lukekarts · Post #104 » by **lukekarts** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:05 pm

Harden2Dwight wrote:
lukekarts wrote:
Harden2Dwight wrote:I dont see why some people have a problem with this...It's jeremy lin compared to melo...

morey's presentation involved him using a pic of melo in his current jersey number holding a nba title. It wouldnt have been the same effect if it was melo with a blank rockets jersey on. Lin is just butthurt.

Rockets did the same exact same thing last year with beverley for dwight and beverley didnt get hurt. Lin is average anyway so even if he gets pissed we could easily find an upgrade once we let him go.

All they needed to do, to not be disrespectful, would be to put up a picture of Melo in a Rockets uniform without using his number 7 on the photoshop.

It's not hard. Yeah I get that Lin is out the door if Melo comes in... but if that doesn't happen, all they've achieved is alienated their own player.

Is Lin getting his number 7 jersey retired?

No.

But here's a situation for you. You come into work one day, and your boss has put someone else's stuff on your desk. Someone that doesn't even work for the same company, but they're trying to hire. How would you feel?

basketball royalty · Post #105 » by **basketball royalty** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:05 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if the Raps did a similar thing with VC wearing Amirs #15. We have even had threads on who deserves the #15 if VC returned. There were plenty of people saying Amir should cough it up.

Sasaki · Post #106 » by **Sasaki** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:05 pm

HotRocks34 wrote:
Sasaki wrote:
HotRocks34 wrote:I've told people I know that this is the hardest Rockets organization or "Rockets culture" for me to root for in the 30 years or so I've been a fan. Someone the other day told me I was being "spoiled" when talking about Morey, because of what Morey has done (in a positive sense).

This (the topic of this thread) is the type of thing that has me down on the organization. And this is not an outlier, IMO.

It's sad. Things don't have to be done this way. But they are done this way. And that is why people become alienated, IMO.

I've been a fan for less than 10 years, but this makes no sense to me. Was it more fun to root for the coked up Rockets who wasted years of Hakeem's genius? Was it more fun to root for that moron Steve Francis who could never play winning basketball? Was it more fun with "Somebody tell Kelvin Cato we want our money back?", or all the horrible moves Carrol Dawson did as the manager of the Rockets?

I consider the current organization to be disappointing and with little heart. Not that they don't mean well, but the holes are gaping, IMO.

Morey ----> Rotisserie League GM with little to show for his efforts in terms of postseason success
McHale ---> Puppet head coach

Howard ---> Probably the most mature star on the team, which is scary. Still, fragile and erratic
Harden ----> Incredibly talented, lacks heart, lacks maturity
Parsons ----> Overvalues himself to the point of riling opposing players
Beverley ---> Solid player who seems caught up in the Harden clique

Francis was a real competitor, even if a flawed one. The coked up Rockets weren't all coked up. Etc.

I'm not saying others have to agree with my feelings, I'm just conveying my own personal opinions here.

This team lacks self-awareness, heart, discretion, emotional intelligence, and leadership. The sum is much less than what the parts seem to be. And, they seem to diss or tick off everyone. Asik, Lin, Lowry and others. It's just unfortunate, and seems unnecessarily messed up.

And my response is that you're buying into bs media narratives. The Rockets have work to do become a true championship team, but to go around asserting "Oh, they don't have heart and leadership" is crap straight out of Skip Bayless. The Rockets didn't lose to Portland because they lacked heart. They lost because of shoddy execution, and that can be corrected without some silly emotional narrative. I'll take guys who can play good basketball over "competitors" like Steve Francis or maybe Allen Iverson who play with "heart" but really could never function on a winning team.

hayden · Post #107 » by **hayden** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:06 pm

The Infamous1 wrote:Dude you got paid based off 2 weeks of play, STFU

Also I will never forget the idiot Knicks fans that actually wanted Melo to defer to Jeremy Lin.

The Salt is strong with this one.

Jeremy Lin 7 · Post #108 » by **Jeremy Lin 7** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:06 pm

Harden2Dwight wrote:
sca wrote:
Harden2Dwight wrote:I dont see why some people have a problem with this...It's jeremy lin compared to melo...

morey's presentation involved him using a pic of melo in his current jersey number holding a nba title. It wouldnt have been the same effect if it was melo with a blank rockets jersey on. Lin is just butthurt.

Rockets did the same exact same thing last year with beverley for dwight and beverley didnt get hurt. Lin is average anyway so even if he gets pissed we could easily find an upgrade once we let him go.

My goodness, Rockets fans showing the same arrogance as their organization does. You don't disrespect a current player of yours, even if he is undisputedly the worst in the world, period.

how am I showing arrogance? Lin is just butthurt because he by chance wears the same number Melo wore. Who cares? It's Jeremy Lin anyway

Treating your best point guard on the team with such disrespect like that.... It doesn't matter player A is better than player B. Its about treating your players who work their asses off for you with respect. Lin made the second biggest sacrifice to the team by coming off the bench. Now you want to bash the guy who didn't do anything wrong but be loyal to the team? SMH

TheAlchemist · Post #109 » by **TheAlchemist** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:07 pm

Harden2Dwight wrote:
TheAlchemist wrote:Sooner or later players will start taking notice of how they get treated by Houston. Revolving door on a team that just got knocked out by Portland.

I'm sorry, but you have to treat your players with respect.

Lin and Asik are not players that are scrubs, they're decent to above average at the very least.

LOL ok

Was I wrong? Did Houston not get slapped around by Aldridge?

So you type in "LOL" as if it did not happen?

You don't remember this LOL worthy moment?

..Cause I do.

LOL.

NothingButLuck · Post #110 » by **NothingButLuck** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:07 pm

Do you see only the Rockets fans are defending the move (and a heat ballboy fan)? What does that tell you. Most of them also mirror the "attitude" from the members in the Rockets TOB. What does that tell to the other people?

California Gold · Post #111 » by **California Gold** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:07 pm

But here's a situation for you. You come into work one day, and your boss has put someone else's stuff on your desk. Someone that doesn't even work for the same company, but they're trying to hire. How would you feel?

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2 different situations and bosses would never do that anyway so your situation is invalid

HotRocks34 · Post #112 » by **HotRocks34** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:07 pm

sca wrote:And I love how literally not a single non-Rockets fan is defending the Rockets organization. Fortunately there are always reasonable posters like HotRocks34.

Thanks.

Look, I make videos about Lin and the Rockets. My thoughts are fairly well known among a number of Rockets fans and particularly Lin fans. I have been embarrassed by the organization and the fan base as regards Lin. Not by everyone or everything, of course. And plenty of people don't agree with me. I also do NOT think Lin should be treated with "kid gloves." But that doesn't mean it's open season for racism, either, IMO. The "we can say anything and then just tell you you're being overly sensitive if you respond" garbage. I have seen some truly despicable, awful things regarding Lin around race. It's pathetic.

I just try to call it like I see it. I'm not going to shill for any organization, including one I root for.

Without question, Harden is jealous of Lin and the attention Lin gets, IMO. I think this is one source of the issues that have gone on for Lin since he came back to the team the second time around.

Lin has a long way to go as a player. He has certain limitations that will always be there.

I think when Lin leaves the organization, it will be best for both sides.

ocelot17 · Post #113 » by **ocelot17** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:08 pm

What is the big deal? It's just Lin... He'll be gone sooner or later. Yeah, it sucks but Lin is getting paid 15 million, I don't feel sorry for him. Besides, he simply was not getting it done.

California Gold · Post #114 » by **California Gold** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:09 pm

Jeremy Lin 7 wrote:
Harden2Dwight wrote:
sca wrote:My goodness, Rockets fans showing the same arrogance as their organization does. You don't disrespect a current player of yours, even if he is undisputedly the worst in the world, period.

how am I showing arrogance? Lin is just butthurt because he by chance wears the same number Melo wore. Who cares? It's Jeremy Lin anyway

Treating your best point guard on the team with such disrespect like that.... It doesn't matter player A is better than player B. Its about treating your players who work their asses off for you with respect. Lin made the second biggest sacrifice to the team by coming off the bench. Now you want to bash the guy who didn't do anything wrong but be loyal to the team? SMH

Beverley worst than Lin? LOL GTFO

MitchellUK · Post #115 » by **MitchellUK** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:09 pm

Jeremy Lin 7 wrote:Treating your best point guard on the team with such disrespect like that.... It doesn't matter player A is better than player B. Its about treating your players who work their asses off for you with respect. Lin made the second biggest sacrifice to the team by coming off the bench. Now you want to bash the guy who didn't do anything wrong but be loyal to the team? SMH

Don't let the bastards get you down, Jeremy.

jjin28 · Post #116 » by **jjin28** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:09 pm

Lin gets trashed on this team. There are many plays where harden plays lax defense and the player blows by him with lin not fast enough to rotate over n the player scores or where he does rotate in time for the player to pass to the open man lin was guarding to hit the shot. And when there is a timeout, lin gets all the glares and shouting from howard n harden. Lol

Juggynaut · Post #117 » by **Juggynaut** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:10 pm

Honestly does any1 actually think Lin gives a **** about the Houston Rockets? He'll feel much better when they again get ousted in the 1st round.

California Gold · Post #118 » by **California Gold** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:10 pm

lukekarts wrote:
Harden2Dwight wrote:
lukekarts wrote:
All they needed to do, to not be disrespectful, would be to put up a picture of Melo in a Rockets uniform without using his number 7 on the photoshop.

It's not hard. Yeah I get that Lin is out the door if Melo comes in... but if that doesn't happen, all they've achieved is alienated their own player.

Is Lin getting his number 7 jersey retired?

No.

But here's a situation for you. You come into work one day, and your boss has put someone else's stuff on your desk. Someone that doesn't even work for the same company, but they're trying to hire. How would you feel?

If that actually happened I would feel like maybe I should do my job better.

Andi Obst · Post #119 » by **Andi Obst** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:10 pm

kinghasnoequal wrote:You're probably one of those people who feel that they can under perform at work and still keep their job.

This is real life, not some fairy-tale where you have to be respected and treated like a soft pillow no matter what happens. If he wanted respect he should have earned it the past two seasons, you're not guaranteed anything in life.

What did the Rockets expect from Lin? Is it his fault they overpaid him?

MitchellUK · Post #120 » by **MitchellUK** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:10 pm

Harden2Dwight wrote:But here's a situation for you. You come into work one day, and your boss has put someone else's stuff on your desk. Someone that doesn't even work for the same company, but they're trying to hire. How would you feel?

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2 different situations and bosses would never do that anyway so your situation is invalid

Jeremy Lin's bosses/colleagues did it.