Nets Superfan Who was Dragged Out of MSG has Passed Away

[Danchan]

I disagree that he was acting like a spoiled brat. From all the videos I have seen of him, he seemed to be a generally nice, peaceful person who was a little more than eccentric but loved the sport of basketball and particularly the nets. He almost seems to have made a semi career out of it, being put up on the monitors during the home games and being recognized by management (they flew him into a London game). The guy lost his leg in a car accident. There are braver people in this world than me who could restart their lives after that, but for me it would be almost impossible. So he began channeling the energy of sports games. He described himself as a nets fan but he also is a knicks fan, so after he was called out for being excessive about the nets he started cheering for the knicks. He clearly paid a ton of money to attend the game as his seats were good. From all accounts he seemed like a generally good person. To be carried out of msg in the way he was not only seemed excessive, but to do so in front of 18,000 fans without his leg on could be one of the most embarrassing moments of his life. He was not cursing, he was not being physical, he was not being violent. He was excessively enjoying the game. Something like that along with the physical nature of it all could have snapped something inside of him permanently. It's bizarre and tragic to say the least especially at this time of the year.

Everyone puts on different faces during different time of the day. Even the most replusive people are probably nice most of the day. Its when you encounter a harsh situation u show who you really are. For example when confronted by security he take off your prosthetic leg and thinks he can't be touched? When is the last time you seen that happen? Do you think its appropriate? That makes me sympathize less with whatever accident he went through since he obviously thinks that his disability makes him untouchable and above authority. Remember, HE took the leg off, not the staff.

There were only a handful of situation that someone have bothered me so much I want to take the effort to notify staff and have them removed. Its an sports event, and a certain level of adrendiline s expected, AND probably accepted. I can only imagine how much he was over-stepping the boundry to cause multiple complaints from multiple people. I have a hard time describing someone who acts that way as "genuinely nice". I refuse to believe a crowd of modern americans were falsely accusing a crippled person (its a big taboo) unless he was truly intolerable. Were there more to the story? Given the information provided, he brought the embarrassment onto himself.

Being esscentric and having overcame hardship is no excuse to being an ass. Shouldn't what he went through makes him humble and wise instead of being an annoyance to others?

[RaptorNews]

if that's true. good. not that i wish actual DEATH on him, but that will teach people to stop attention grabbing and trouble making. there should be consequences when you disrupt order in society. sick of these alpha male type thinking they are above everything, i bet he's loud and obnoxious in real life.

I doubt he was as obnoxious as you are. You are complete moron

false.
I've never been dragged out by security. I've never made a scene in public. I've never bothered anyone out there. It's idiotic these days that people can just be loud or rude and that gets them what they want or even can be their claim to fame.

Learn to Stay in line like everyone else.

death is too big of a punishment for sure. but considering there are tons of people out there who gets away with being unruly in public and how much trouble they cause others, and usually gets away with it feeling like the BIG MAN... it's inevitable that finally something bad happens to one of these people as a consequence of their action.

Congrats man, you are a law abiding insensitive douche

[C.lupus]

Can this board be anymore insensitive?

Apparently the answer is yes.

[timglick01]

The biggest question of all is what if Jeffrey Gamblero was black?

[lkitt0804]

you know who was insensitive? the guy who was bothering the living, breathing people beside him at the arena, making them feel uncomfortable during the game. The guy who had 8 people carry him up like 80 steps because he thinks he is "special" and can do whatever he wants in a crowd.

again, i am not saying I am glad he is dead. that's just bad karma. I am saying it's bound to happen that a trouble maker brings trouble upon himself.

*how ironic that I am the prick for pointing out this fact. i am sure his family is reading this forum, you guys know him personally and my word hurt you deeply. I say stop shedding your fake tears and stop pretending you personally feel sad for the guy when i point out facts. You are the one on a high horse because social protocol suggest you have to "respect the dead" and speaking for him makes you feel better about yourself.

I'm assuming you were there and bothered by him based on your post about him bothering people and making people feel uncomfortable. Can you explain what he was doing to make you feel this way?


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[Yoshun]

I disagree that he was acting like a spoiled brat. From all the videos I have seen of him, he seemed to be a generally nice, peaceful person who was a little more than eccentric but loved the sport of basketball and particularly the nets. He almost seems to have made a semi career out of it, being put up on the monitors during the home games and being recognized by management (they flew him into a London game). The guy lost his leg in a car accident. There are braver people in this world than me who could restart their lives after that, but for me it would be almost impossible. So he began channeling the energy of sports games. He described himself as a nets fan but he also is a knicks fan, so after he was called out for being excessive about the nets he started cheering for the knicks. He clearly paid a ton of money to attend the game as his seats were good. From all accounts he seemed like a generally good person. To be carried out of msg in the way he was not only seemed excessive, but to do so in front of 18,000 fans without his leg on could be one of the most embarrassing moments of his life. He was not cursing, he was not being physical, he was not being violent. He was excessively enjoying the game. Something like that along with the physical nature of it all could have snapped something inside of him permanently. It's bizarre and tragic to say the least especially at this time of the year.

Everyone puts on different faces during different time of the day. Even the most replusive people are probably nice most of the day. Its when you encounter a harsh situation u show who you really are. For example when confronted by security he take off your prosthetic leg and thinks he can't be touched? When is the last time you seen that happen? Do you think its appropriate? That makes me sympathize less with whatever accident he went through since he obviously thinks that his disability makes him untouchable and above authority. Remember, HE took the leg off, not the staff.

There were only a handful of situation that someone have bothered me so much I want to take the effort to notify staff and have them removed. Its an sports event, and a certain level of adrendiline s expected, AND probably accepted. I can only imagine how much he was over-stepping the boundry to cause multiple complaints from multiple people. I have a hard time describing someone who acts that way as "genuinely nice". I refuse to believe a crowd of modern americans were falsely accusing a crippled person (its a big taboo) unless he was truly intolerable. Were there more to the story? Given the information provided, he brought the embarrassment onto himself.

Being esscentric and having overcame hardship is no excuse to being an ass. Shouldn't what he went through makes him humble and wise instead of being an annoyance to others?

You're really missing the point with all of this stuff. No one is saying the guy didn't deserve to be thrown out or have consequences for his actions. What people are saying is, it's really unnecessary to point out. Who cares if he was being loud at a basketball game? You appear to be trying to prove to other people that you're a real "tell like it is" kind of guy or something. It's fine to be that way and can even be an important strength, but in this situation it's insensitive and tactless. Everyone and their mother agrees that someone who is causing trouble should be thrown out of the game. The point is, there is no reason to say it, it doesn't accomplish anything.

[ChokeFasncists]

There were only a handful of situation that someone have bothered me so much I want to take the effort to notify staff and have them removed. Its an sports event, and a certain level of adrendiline s expected, AND probably accepted. I can only imagine how much he was over-stepping the boundry to cause multiple complaints from multiple people. I have a hard time describing someone who acts that way as "genuinely nice". I refuse to believe a crowd of modern americans were falsely accusing a crippled person (its a big taboo) unless he was truly intolerable. Were there more to the story? Given the information provided, he brought the embarrassment onto himself.

Being esscentric and having overcame hardship is no excuse to being an ass. Shouldn't what he went through makes him humble and wise instead of being an annoyance to others?

It's just a game. What's so wrong with cheering for an away team? It could have been me, luckily I was in NJ and people are much nicer, not overly competitive to do backhanded things. RIP.

you know who was insensitive? the guy who was bothering the living, breathing people beside him at the arena, making them feel uncomfortable during the game. The guy who had 8 people carry him up like 80 steps because he thinks he is "special" and can do whatever he wants in a crowd.

again, i am not saying I am glad he is dead. that's just bad karma. I am saying it's bound to happen that a trouble maker brings trouble upon himself.

*how ironic that I am the prick for pointing out this fact. i am sure his family is reading this forum, you guys know him personally and my word hurt you deeply. I say stop shedding your fake tears and stop pretending you personally feel sad for the guy when i point out facts. You are the one on a high horse because social protocol suggest you have to "respect the dead" and speaking for him makes you feel better about yourself.

Well, you are obviously bothering living, breathing people like me, making me feel uncomfortable reading this forum. Sounds like bad karma to me. Or you think people here are not breathing? You can do whatever on the internet? A fan cheering for an opposing team might be annoying but it's his right to do so.

[Danchan]

^yes because cheering for the opposite team gets u thrown out by the security. Not just anyone, a crippled person of all people.
I can't help you if you refuse to be subjective and continue to defend someone who is obviously in the wrong. By your logic its my right to continue to annoy you. But then I am not breaking any rules that cause authorities to remove me aren't I?

You're really missing the point with all of this stuff. No one is saying the guy didn't deserve to be thrown out or have consequences for his actions. What people are saying is, it's really unnecessary to point out. Who cares if he was being loud at a basketball game? You appear to be trying to prove to other people that you're a real "tell like it is" kind of guy or something. It's fine to be that way and can even be an important strength, but in this situation it's insensitive and tactless. Everyone and their mother agrees that someone who is causing trouble should be thrown out of the game. The point is, there is no reason to say it, it doesn't accomplish anything.

You sure? Because it seems to me a lot of you are saying "oh he's just being a fan. They didn't have to embarrass him by throwing him out." Its not about me wanting to " tell it like it is", its about me saying its about time people learn from his example and thinking being loud and rude gets them what they want.

[Trader_Joe]

I disagree that he was acting like a spoiled brat. From all the videos I have seen of him, he seemed to be a generally nice, peaceful person who was a little more than eccentric but loved the sport of basketball and particularly the nets. He almost seems to have made a semi career out of it, being put up on the monitors during the home games and being recognized by management (they flew him into a London game). The guy lost his leg in a car accident. There are braver people in this world than me who could restart their lives after that, but for me it would be almost impossible. So he began channeling the energy of sports games. He described himself as a nets fan but he also is a knicks fan, so after he was called out for being excessive about the nets he started cheering for the knicks. He clearly paid a ton of money to attend the game as his seats were good. From all accounts he seemed like a generally good person. To be carried out of msg in the way he was not only seemed excessive, but to do so in front of 18,000 fans without his leg on could be one of the most embarrassing moments of his life. He was not cursing, he was not being physical, he was not being violent. He was excessively enjoying the game. Something like that along with the physical nature of it all could have snapped something inside of him permanently. It's bizarre and tragic to say the least especially at this time of the year.

Everyone puts on different faces during different time of the day. Even the most replusive people are probably nice most of the day. Its when you encounter a harsh situation u show who you really are. For example when confronted by security he take off your prosthetic leg and thinks he can't be touched? When is the last time you seen that happen? Do you think its appropriate? That makes me sympathize less with whatever accident he went through since he obviously thinks that his disability makes him untouchable and above authority. Remember, HE took the leg off, not the staff.

There were only a handful of situation that someone have bothered me so much I want to take the effort to notify staff and have them removed. Its an sports event, and a certain level of adrendiline s expected, AND probably accepted. I can only imagine how much he was over-stepping the boundry to cause multiple complaints from multiple people. I have a hard time describing someone who acts that way as "genuinely nice". I refuse to believe a crowd of modern americans were falsely accusing a crippled person (its a big taboo) unless he was truly intolerable. Were there more to the story? Given the information provided, he brought the embarrassment onto himself.

Being esscentric and having overcame hardship is no excuse to being an ass. Shouldn't what he went through makes him humble and wise instead of being an annoyance to others?

He took his leg off AFTER security touched his leg and he told them to stop and that they were hurting him. Perhaps he was worried if there was a confrontation something could happen to him or to his leg. I don't know, nor do you. But I'm sure he is sensitive to that portion of his body and the trauma associated with losing it in an automobile accident.

This guy is known for being a very happy, positive person. There are even stories of people that have met him in this thread (and many more on Netsdaily) and being amazed how nice and positive he was. He was known for being at every Nets game (he also used to be a season ticket holder at both MSG and Barcalys), dancing, dancing with children and trying to make people laugh and smile. I highly doubt he was being more obnoxious than many of the fans in MSG.. except that he was rooting for the Nets and thus bothering those around him. But.. I could be wrong.

There is the video.. but there is also this...



http://www.netsdaily.com/2014/12/4/7333 ... thetic-leg

Much was made of a terrible incident on Tuesday night as Brooklyn Nets super fan Jeffrey Gamblero was carried out of Madison Square Garden by arena security for dancing, yelling and pretty much "just being an annoying fan."
There was some speculation that Gamblero had used his prosthetic leg as a weapon to strike another fan (or, other fans), however there has been no evidence at all to prove that Gamblero was, again, being anything but "just an annoying fan."

NJ.com has now published additional videos which seem to back up the claim that, you guessed it, Gamblero was being nothing more than, wait for it, "just an annoying fan." At one point, video shows Gamblero talking calmly with an MSG usher and shaking his hand. Nothing about it seemed violent or over the top.

UPDATE: A fan named Max was sitting behind Gamblero. Here’s his first-hand account of the situation (all typos/errors are [sic]):

(Gamblero) was being his usual self, absolutely no cursing, no negative cheering, just dancing and loud cheering for the Nets. Never attacked a Knicks fan, never got out of hand.

After halftime a guard came up and told him to "cool down and just be a fan." Obviously didn’t know who he was. He said what did I do wrong? Should I be quiet? They said no, just cool it down. He started loudly cheering FOR the Knicks doing "go New York go New York go," etc. The guards came back and told him to stop. He said why? Is this a library?

Then the main guard on the floor gave the signal to kick him out. He would not leave. A guard then touched his leg and he said "ouch you’re hurting me I have a prosthetic leg." He then took off the leg, which is when things escalated.

More and more guards surrounded him as he watched the game with his leg resting on his shoulder. They tried to get him to put his leg on, threatened to arrest him if he wouldn’t, but he wasn’t moving. He started saying "why are you doing this I just love basketball so much," he was clearly overwhelmed. After about ten minutes, four guards grabbed him and carried him out as he screamed in pain.

@ReedWallach Thing is the fans around him Nets and Knickschanted let him stay. The loud boos heard were for him being dragged out.Very weird

@KennyDucey the whole section was chanting “let him stay” & security patiently talked to him for a few minutes before carrying him out.

[Trader_Joe]

More insight into who this guys was (video interview)

He's been known by Nets fans for years and Netsdaily even did a profile on him last Spring. He was a bit polarizing to the fan base, but mainly because some thought he was an attention seeker or because he also had Knicks season tickets and was a fan of theirs as well...but he was not known as a mean, malicious guy at all. In fact his positive was contagious. The team even took him to Russia last year where he got to meet Prokhorov and have breakfast with the players.

http://www.netsdaily.com/2014/4/8/55932 ... ooklyn-way

All in all, it's a tragic story that I thought should be shared. I haven't anywhere said he should not have been removed from the arena or that MSG is at all responsible for what happened (I wasn't there and the video isn't enough), but I do know his life changed drastically after that night..

On December 2nd, after an horrific incident where Gamblero was ejected from Madison Square Garden for being the spunky fan that we all know him to be, his fiancee, Kristi Evans, stated his life took a turn for the worse.

“After that, he was a completely different person,” Evans told NetsDaily. “He was paranoid. He was erratic. He was frightened. He was horrified, He was a bit delusional. He was having trouble sleeping. He couldn’t sleep at all. When he would sleep, or try to sleep, it would only take about 10 or 15 minutes before he would jump up screaming covered in sweat.”

His last interview...

"If you try to say the same after a life-changing event, you're lying to yourself," he told OurBKSocial. "Your life has changed. You're a different person. I even got alter egos going on and stuff, but I'm not getting into. The world is not ready for them...

"I get visions. Things happen, man. I don't know. I'm going with the flow." he said when asked when he could discuss the "alter egos."

He described the aftermath of the December 2 incident at the Garden. "I had the worst week of my life. You guys don't understand. I'm putting myself through the same training as when I lost my leg (in a car accident 17 years ago). When I lost my leg, I was in a trauma. I was like, I have to focus on getting back to what I had to do."

He said that experience had put him "in my house, wrestling with demons, figuring life out." Now, he said Friday, "I've found my focus, found my new passions," adding, "I don't have the same passions I did before ... it's been a metamorphosis, new patterns, new passions, new passions.

"I'm not going to get any deeper than that because you guys are going to think I'm nuts," he added with a laugh.

[goodboy]

inb4 lock soon, I can sniff it.

[ChokeFasncists]

^yes because cheering for the opposite team gets u thrown out by the security. Not just anyone, a crippled person of all people.

Sometimes, that's what it is.

I can't help you if you refuse to be subjective

Refuse to be subjective? What? I don't think I'm being not subjective.

and continue to defend someone who is obviously in the wrong.

How are you so sure he's in the wrong? No base to that.

By your logic its my right to continue to annoy you. But then I am not breaking any rules that cause authorities to remove me aren't I?

Yes, it is your right to be annoying me as long as you're acting within a certain boundary. Just because you are annoying me I wouldn't call the mods to ban you. And I hope the mods aren't banning you just because you are annoying. What I'm saying is that since you are saying he deserves to be thrown out because he's annoying people, by your own logic, you deserve to be banned cuz you're annoying many here.

[RondoToKG]

When you're asked to leave an NBA game, you should probably do it. Especially if you go to games all the time and it's not too big of a deal.

That way, you don't get picked up and carried out.

RIP though.... and if they didn't have a legit reason to kick him out, someone is going to be in serious trouble.

[timglick01]

The guy reminds me of Robin Williams, happy on the outside, fake in the inside.

[ChokeFasncists]

inb4 lock soon, I can sniff it.

Just because of one annoying fan? ~lol~ I hope not.

UPDATE: A fan named Max was sitting behind Gamblero. Here’s his first-hand account of the situation (all typos/errors are [sic]):

(Gamblero) was being his usual self, absolutely no cursing, no negative cheering, just dancing and loud cheering for the Nets. Never attacked a Knicks fan, never got out of hand.

After halftime a guard came up and told him to "cool down and just be a fan." Obviously didn’t know who he was. He said what did I do wrong? Should I be quiet? They said no, just cool it down. He started loudly cheering FOR the Knicks doing "go New York go New York go," etc. The guards came back and told him to stop. He said why? Is this a library?

Then the main guard on the floor gave the signal to kick him out. He would not leave. A guard then touched his leg and he said "ouch you’re hurting me I have a prosthetic leg." He then took off the leg, which is when things escalated.

More and more guards surrounded him as he watched the game with his leg resting on his shoulder. They tried to get him to put his leg on, threatened to arrest him if he wouldn’t, but he wasn’t moving. He started saying "why are you doing this I just love basketball so much," he was clearly overwhelmed. After about ten minutes, four guards grabbed him and carried him out as he screamed in pain.

@ReedWallach Thing is the fans around him Nets and Knickschanted let him stay. The loud boos heard were for him being dragged out.Very weird

@KennyDucey the whole section was chanting “let him stay” & security patiently talked to him for a few minutes before carrying him out.

Sounds like power abuse. Police state.

[Trader_Joe]

When you're asked to leave an NBA game, you should probably do it. Especially if you go to games all the time and it's not too big of a deal.

That way, you don't get picked up and carried out.

And if security is going to kick someone out of a game, they should have good reason to do so. (don't know if they did or didn't, but I know if I were to be asked to leave a game and I felt I had no reason to be asked out, I would question the situation as well considering the magnitude of the game and the cost of the tickets)

And if they have good reason to do so, it would be nice if they didn't drop that person on the steps.

[RondoToKG]

When you're asked to leave an NBA game, you should probably do it. Especially if you go to games all the time and it's not too big of a deal.

That way, you don't get picked up and carried out.

And if security is going to kick someone out of a game, they should have good reason to do so. (don't know if they did or didn't, but I know if I were to be asked to leave a game and I felt I had no reason to be asked out, I would question the situation as well considering the magnitude of the game and the cost of the tickets)

And if they have good reason to do so, it would be nice if they didn't drop that person on the steps.

Oh I agree. You caught me mid edit.

[Trader_Joe]

The guy reminds me of Robin Williams, happy on the outside, fake in the inside.

So you know him well enough to judge him?

BTW...his fiance...

"He's never, ever exhibited any suicidal tendencies," Evans said. "He jumped out of the bed, ran down the hallway ... and then threw himself out of a window headfirst and landed on his head."

[ferk]

you know who was insensitive? the guy who was bothering the living, breathing people beside him at the arena, making them feel uncomfortable during the game. The guy who had 8 people carry him like 80 steps because he thinks he is "special" and can do whatever he wants in a crowd.

again, i am not saying I am glad he is dead. that's just bad karma. I am saying it's bound to happen that a trouble maker brings trouble upon himself.

*how ironic thatI am the prick for pointing out this fact. i am sure his family is reading this forum, you guys know him personally and my word hurt you deeply. I say stop shedding your fake tears and stop pretending you personally feel sad for the guy. You are the one on a high horse because social protocol suggest you have to "respect the dead".

Although not said in the best way... I understand where you are coming from.

It's like people who whinge about police... As I say... You know why it doesn't bother me? Because I don't break the law. If you don't break the law you don't have to worry about going to prison or being dragged or beaten by cops. Pretty simple.

It sounds to me like this guy couldn't leave well enough alone and was trying to make a point which ultimately cost him his life. I think if he had his time again he would choose to maybe just take it on board instead of antagonising and making a scene.


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lol..

[ChokeFasncists]

When you're asked to leave an NBA game, you should probably do it. Especially if you go to games all the time and it's not too big of a deal.

That way, you don't get picked up and carried out.

RIP though.... and if they didn't have a legit reason to kick him out, someone is going to be in serious trouble.

The way I see it is that, the guy goes to games all the times and act the same, why is this time different?

OTOH, he should be prepared in his mind to be carried out, but obviously he's a emotional kinda guy. God, it's just a game, cheering for the away team so what?

BTW...his fiance...

"He's never, ever exhibited any suicidal tendencies," Evans said. "He jumped out of the bed, ran down the hallway ... and then threw himself out of a window headfirst and landed on his head."

Poor thing......