What are the Sixers doing?

[boomann21]

Michael Carter
Jru Holiday
Nico Vuciec (The Orlando kid)
Andre Igudola
Thaddeus Young

Spencer Hawes
Lou Williams

If they would just keep some of their guys instead of trading everyone they could field a pretty good team. All of these dudes were drafted by Philly and then let go and all they have is two injured Centers to show for it.

[bleeds_purple]

Someone compile a list of all the picks the Sixers have moving forward. I think that will answer the question.

[Stills12]

That's one way to look at it.


The other way to look at it is that after two whole years, all they have to show for it is 1 starter (Noel), a rookie that has a high risk of injury (Embiid), and a question mark that hasn't played a single game in the NBA (Saric). If that's all they can do in 2 years, how long is it going to take to get a decent team? 5? 10? and what player will want to sign with them when 1) they're horrible or 2) they're decent but they treat their players like numbers in a computer?

Well the 2nd year of rebuild hasn't finished yet. So you'll have to include this years pick into your equation too. So that's Noel, Embiid, Saric, own top lottery pick & Heat's 1st round pick as the worst case scenario. How is that not good for a 2 year rebuild process?

Noel is handicapped offensively, Embiid and Saric haven't played 1 NBA game, and judging by their draft history (less than 2 years) they aren't going to hit on those 1st round picks. They have no plan. Get with the program.

Go look up how much talent Sixers have managed to find in the draft regardless of whether its a high or low pick. Sixers talent scouts aren't Spurs like but they are more than capable of making quiet a lot of teams look incompetent.

[wicked_crossova]

Someone compile a list of all the picks the Sixers have moving forward. I think that will answer the question.

They have their first round pick, a lakers pick that they wont even get this year, and 38275384705943 2nd round picks.

[BullyKing]

Michael Carter
Jru Holiday
Nico Vuciec (The Orlando kid)
Andre Igudola
Thaddeus Young

Spencer Hawes
Lou Williams

If they would just keep some of their guys instead of trading everyone they could field a pretty good team. All of these dudes were drafted by Philly and then let go and all they have is two injured Centers to show for it.

Yeah, but we can't undo the Bynum trade that happened before Hinkie arrived. So what would rather him have done?

[Upperclass]

76ers are going to regret this bigtime.. they continue to make half-ass moves in attempt to build for the future.. Its like Hinkie is waiting to pull an "aha! moment.. but i dont think it coming.. just more mediocrity.

MCW is way underrated on these boards, and Jason Kidd got the perfect PG to mold in his vision.. the bizarro version of himself. Brandon Knight is garbage, and not worth anywhere near the contract he'll garner in the offseason.. essentially hes a larger Augustin and will endup a backup in the coming years.

Dumb trade by the suns.. the 6ers and brilliance on the Bucks part

[GallagherArt]

Michael Carter
Jru Holiday
Nico Vuciec (The Orlando kid)
Andre Igudola
Thaddeus Young

Spencer Hawes
Lou Williams

If they would just keep some of their guys instead of trading everyone they could field a pretty good team. All of these dudes were drafted by Philly and then let go and all they have is two injured Centers to show for it.

Hinkie was hired because of the Bynum trade, he inherited Jrue Holiday, Thad Young, Spencer Hawes (and Evan Turner).

Vuce, Iggy, and Lou were already gone.

[GallagherArt]

Someone compile a list of all the picks the Sixers have moving forward. I think that will answer the question.

They have their first round pick, a lakers pick that they wont even get this year, and 38275384705943 2nd round picks.

This season they have their pick, Heat's first round pick (top 10 protected), Thunder's first round pick (top 18 protected, should get this with what Thunder did today though), Lakers first round pick (top 5 protected). Likely not going to get LA pick this year, although if they finish where they are now, fourth worst, then there's a 17% change Sixers get the pick. If these don't yield this season than they carry over to next season and so on.

And, yeah, 38275384705943 2nd round picks.

2015 _ Their own No. 1 pick, Lakers’ No. 1 pick (top 5 protected); Heat’s No. 1 pick (top 10 protected); Thunder’s No. 1 pick (top 18 protected), Second-round picks originally belonging to the Magic, Pelicans, Rockets and Warriors. Heck, Hinkie might pick No. 1 overall and No. 60 overall. And that’s just this year.
2016 _ Sixers’ own No. 1 pick. The Nuggets’ No. 2 pick.
2017 _ Sixers’ own No. 1 pick (Returned from Orlando), y nada mas. But give Hinkie time.
2018 _ Sixers’ own No. 1 pick. The better of Brooklyn or Cleveland’s second-round pick; the better of the Knicks’ or Clippers’ second-round pick.
2019 _ Sixers own No. 1 pick. The Knicks’ second-round pick. The better of the Bucks’ or the Kings’ second-round pick.
2020 _ Sixers own No. 1 pick. The Nets’ second-round pick.

Quoted from http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/02/19 ... ixers-win/

[Da1RealRapsFan]

His play has been horrible this season. But, promise =/= evaluation of current play. Promise reflects potential to play well, which is forward-looking. While I still don't like him nor what I perceive to be the empty stats he puts up, I think he has great promise. Nice try though, and I'm not surprised that this is coming from you, as you've historically had a problem with what I've said about your Sixers.

You're right that promise isn't indicative of current evaluation, however how much promise can you really believe he has when he's 23 years old and your evaluation of him currently is that he puts up empty stats, is horrible, and you don't like him?

23 isn't even close to being a finished product. And plenty of players have worked themselves up from bad play. So it's not a stretch to say that he has promise.

You got wrecked dude. Put your big boy pants on and just take the L. A lot easier to say "you are right I'm wrong" than to keep embarrassing yourself throughout the whole thread like this.



Especially when dude roasted you using your own words lol.

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[Mr.Raptorsingh]

76ers are going to regret this bigtime.. they continue to make half-ass moves in attempt to build for the future.. Its like Hinkie is waiting to pull an "aha! moment.. but i dont think it coming.. just more mediocrity.

MCW is way underrated on these boards, and Jason Kidd got the perfect PG to mold in his vision.. the bizarro version of himself. Brandon Knight is garbage, and not worth anywhere near the contract he'll garner in the offseason.. essentially hes a larger Augustin and will endup a backup in the coming years.

Dumb trade by the suns.. the 6ers and brilliance on the Bucks part

I think Knight fits the system in Pheonix, since they seem to require a multi-PG backcourt, where multiple guys can handle, pass, and shoot. Knight fits in that sense, and he doesn't always have to handle the ball now, can play off Bledsoe.

[Johnlac1]

76ers are going to regret this bigtime.. they continue to make half-ass moves in attempt to build for the future.. Its like Hinkie is waiting to pull an "aha! moment.. but i dont think it coming.. just more mediocrity.

MCW is way underrated on these boards, and Jason Kidd got the perfect PG to mold in his vision.. the bizarro version of himself. Brandon Knight is garbage, and not worth anywhere near the contract he'll garner in the offseason.. essentially hes a larger Augustin and will endup a backup in the coming years.

Dumb trade by the suns.. the 6ers and brilliance on the Bucks part

As a Bucks fan who has seen most of their games the last two years, Knight was not garbage. He played well this year for his abilities. He could score pts. and hit the three ball.
He was miscast as pg. He is really a sg who handles the ball a lot. Best as a combo guard off the bench.
MCW will be a huge improvement as far as making other Bucks better players.

[Da1RealRapsFan]

I can almost swallow the MCW trade...the KJ one?

nah.

KJ was flawed and all that but not for Cannon and a second round pick. He wasn't behind Cov and Grant either...he was the **** starting SG FFS.

Guys you can occasionally dislike some things Hinkie does....it doesnt change the whole IF EVERYTHING WORKS OUT part of the plan but it was a **** deal and a cheap one at best. If KJ walked because he wanted too much..so?

Lets do this slowly.



KJ walks = philly loses and asset for nothing in return


Trade KJ = get an asset in return.



You're in favour of possibly losing an asset for absolutely nothing on the chance he doesn't ask for too much? You should run a business using those principles and see how far it gets you. I really see why so many people are opposed to Hinkie and it's because there are so many idiots in the world.




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[snoopdogg88]

i'm surprised RealGm isn't ripping the Sixers as much as I expected. Those of you who hated MCW from the start, you should be praising Hinkie for getting incredible value for him. I hate the McDaniels trade, but I'm on board with this deal.

I liked MCW but Hinkie saw the forrest from the trees. Russell or Mudiay is very possible for our 1st pick. I also think he is targeting someone like Hezonja or Stanley Johnson with the Lakers pick, even if it doesn't transfer over this year, it's still a very valuable asset for a trade up.

[Ballah]

Keep tanking until you have a superstar or enough assets to trade for one. It is not a bad strategy, but most front offices are not ballsy enough to just keep tanking until it works. Most agree to tank for 2-3 years and then they make do with whatever they managed to collect in those few years.

Tanking is a tough thing. Unless you are lucky as the Cavs and repeatedly get the first pick. The draft is a crap shoot. You might get Tim Duncan or you might get Greg Oden.

I much prefer the Rockets strategy of gradually getting better rather than rolling the dice all the time.

Of course it is tough, cause most teams have a limit on how much they want to tank. The sixers apparently do not, so eventually they will hit jackpot.

[76ciology]

I think the MCW deal is a potential steal, depending on what record the Lakers land. And I don't think MCW could land you that Lakers pick if Sixers ended up with D'Angelo Russell or Mudiay in the 2015 draft.

I think the KJ deal is because KJ has some fundamental flaw in his game like the dribbling ability of a center and his shot mechanics, then the Sixers is forced to hand him money to retain him in the offseason. Would have gotten a better deal for KJ? I don't know. But Canaan seems like a player we can use. He's a very good shooter to space the floor for our big man.

[Yoshun]

Trading MCW I get.

Trading KJ makes zero sense.

[76ciology]

Michael Carter
Jru Holiday
Nico Vuciec (The Orlando kid)
Andre Igudola
Thaddeus Young

Spencer Hawes
Lou Williams

If they would just keep some of their guys instead of trading everyone they could field a pretty good team. All of these dudes were drafted by Philly and then let go and all they have is two injured Centers to show for it.

2015 Sixers pick (D'Angelo Russell?)
2015 Lakers pick (Stanley Johnson?)
Embiid
Noel

I'd rather have our team right now. We've got multiple opportunities to get ourselves a star/superstar

[E-Balla]

There's no point in acquiring assets if you never cash in on them. The Sixers are really the extreme version of Morey's Rockets but I don't think they'll be able to strike out like Morey did unless they already have.

[Kingshadaine]

Relax, the sixers are in the eastern conference, if the bucks can make the playoffs after having the worst record last year, why can't the sixers, you never know

[snoopdogg88]

i really want to the Lakers pick to drop to 6th this year.

I want Mudiay or Russell plus Johnson or Hezonja. God I hope we get the Lakers pick this year.