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Re: All-Premature Reactions Thread 

Post#101 » by snaquille oatmeal » Sun Nov 6, 2016 5:11 pm

Slava wrote:Emmanuel Mudiay seems to be carrying on from where he left off last season. I understand giving minutes to your developmental players but at this point I think Denver is handicapping itself every game by giving a 28% usage and 31 MPG to a PG posting 75 offensive rating and -6.8 offensive BPM.

Unfortunately their only other option off the bench is Jameer Nelson.

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Re: All-Premature Reactions Thread 

Post#102 » by RRFB » Sun Nov 6, 2016 6:39 pm

Slava wrote:Emmanuel Mudiay seems to be carrying on from where he left off last season. I understand giving minutes to your developmental players but at this point I think Denver is handicapping itself every game by giving a 28% usage and 31 MPG to a PG posting 75 offensive rating and -6.8 offensive BPM.

Unfortunately their only other option off the bench is Jameer Nelson.


I wish Mudiay had picked up where he left off last season, cause he finished strong. His last month and a half or so was really encouraging. He looked like a real starting NBA point guard. Unfortunately, he actually looks like he's started his rookie season all over again.

But yeah, Denver might have the worst PG play in the league right now.
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Is TJ Warren Legit? 

Post#103 » by Scalabrine » Mon Nov 7, 2016 2:58 am

Obviously it's very early but with all the talk and focus from most people in the basketball world has been on Devin Booker as the future in Phoenix but TJ Warren has been on a tear to start the season and looks like the most obvious candidate for MIP this year.

After ending a disappointing season last year where he couldn't take the start job from PJ Tucker and missed the last 30-40 games with a knee injury, he is putting up averages of an efficient 22 points and 6 rebounds with a per of 21. He has been getting to the free throw line and scoring in every which way while making plays on defense.



Do you anticipate that his play tails off? Just a hot start? How good can he be? Future All Star?
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Re: Is TJ Warren Legit? 

Post#104 » by SelfishPlayer » Mon Nov 7, 2016 3:10 am

He's for real.
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Re: Is TJ Warren Legit? 

Post#105 » by jwise44 » Mon Nov 7, 2016 3:12 am

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How many ppg does Devin Booker average going forward? 

Post#106 » by Superbasketball » Mon Nov 7, 2016 1:54 pm

24 ppg from here on out? He is looking to break out.
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Re: How many ppg does Devin Booker average going forward? 

Post#107 » by The-Power » Mon Nov 7, 2016 2:06 pm

NBADFS wrote:24 ppg from here on out? He is looking to break out.

As I wrote in the Sophomore thread: his scoring - along with his efficiency - is going to be up and down because the Suns already rely on him to produce every single night, as their go-to scorer basically. It's tough for a 20 year old sophomore to sustain a high level of play consistently but he's definitely going to be a premier scorer in the future. It's amazing what confidence he has on every single play no matter how bad he has been before. It's extremely rare - even more so for his age - and I'm glad the Suns committed to him as their leading offensive player this early in his career.
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Re: How many ppg does Devin Booker average going forward? 

Post#108 » by Superbasketball » Mon Nov 7, 2016 2:09 pm

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NBADFS wrote:24 ppg from here on out? He is looking to break out.

As I wrote in the Sophomore thread: his scoring - along with his efficiency - is going to be up and down because the Suns already rely on him to produce every single night, as their go-to scorer basically. It's tough for a 20 year old sophomore to sustain a high level of play consistently but he's definitely going to be a premier scorer in the future. It's amazing what confidence he has on every single play no matter how bad he has been before. It's extremely rare - even more so for his age - and I'm glad the Suns committed to him as their leading offensive player this early in his career.


The one thing I see that could hold him back a bit is he doesn't seem to have great athleticism like a kobe or wade. He relies more on skill in getting open and scoring.
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Re: How many ppg does Devin Booker average going forward? 

Post#109 » by The-Power » Mon Nov 7, 2016 2:13 pm

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The-Power wrote:
NBADFS wrote:24 ppg from here on out? He is looking to break out.

As I wrote in the Sophomore thread: his scoring - along with his efficiency - is going to be up and down because the Suns already rely on him to produce every single night, as their go-to scorer basically. It's tough for a 20 year old sophomore to sustain a high level of play consistently but he's definitely going to be a premier scorer in the future. It's amazing what confidence he has on every single play no matter how bad he has been before. It's extremely rare - even more so for his age - and I'm glad the Suns committed to him as their leading offensive player this early in his career.


The one thing I see that could hold him back a bit is he doesn't seem to have great athleticism like a kobe or wade. He relies more on skill in getting open and scoring.

He's big and quite strong for a 2, though. He can shoot about most defenders, use his body to get closer to the rim or create separation and he's also not a bad athlete by any means. Sure, clearly not as athletic as prime Kobe or Wade but he has other advantages. He still struggles with finishing at the rim through contact (quite often unsuccessfully trying to draw fouls) but he gets there basically at will - which bodes well as he should improve his finishing going forward with more experience.
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Re: So When Do We Acknowledge A.Bradley As A Star? 

Post#110 » by chrisab123 » Mon Nov 7, 2016 3:01 pm

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There's no chance he gets a max deal. That's like $27M+ annually.


In a market where Adams gets 25? He's getting a max deal. Someone will overpay. Evan Turner just got freaking 17 million


Adams is 23, is a big and has a lot of potential. Bradley is none of those things.

A couple years from now there isn't going to be nearly as much cap-space so deals won't be quite as inflated.

I mean you really think Bradley is gonna get a ~120/4 max?


I think as teams get desperate and have money to blow I can easily see them bidding a max deal on a 27 year old elite defensive guard. He's in his mid 20's right now. I think people seem to forget that Bradley is only a few years older than Kris Dunn. He still has room. Again, I'm not saying Bradley is worth a max. He isn't. But all it takes is one team.
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Tyson Chandler is 3rd in the NBA in rebounding 

Post#111 » by OnceUponADime » Mon Nov 7, 2016 3:48 pm

Phoenix did give him quite a bit of money a year ago (doesn't look as bad now with the contracts given out to Mahimi/Noah/Mozgov etc) but he has not been that bad for the Suns.

He has also seemed to have an impact on Devin Booker so far as well.



Even with the amount of minutes he's played throughout his career and all the wear and tear on his body, he's still 3rd in the league in rebounding at 13.3 rebounds per game behind only Drummond & Whiteside. He also plays the least amount of minutes among the top rebounders.

Pretty impressive for a 35 year old guy if he can maintain this.
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Re: So When Do We Acknowledge A.Bradley As A Star? 

Post#112 » by Rapcity_11 » Mon Nov 7, 2016 4:11 pm

chrisab123 wrote:
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In a market where Adams gets 25? He's getting a max deal. Someone will overpay. Evan Turner just got freaking 17 million


Adams is 23, is a big and has a lot of potential. Bradley is none of those things.

A couple years from now there isn't going to be nearly as much cap-space so deals won't be quite as inflated.

I mean you really think Bradley is gonna get a ~120/4 max?


I think as teams get desperate and have money to blow I can easily see them bidding a max deal on a 27 year old elite defensive guard. He's in his mid 20's right now. I think people seem to forget that Bradley is only a few years older than Kris Dunn. He still has room. Again, I'm not saying Bradley is worth a max. He isn't. But all it takes is one team.


Teams might get desperate, but not to the extent of ~120/4.
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Re: All-Premature Reactions Thread 

Post#113 » by Statlanta » Mon Nov 7, 2016 4:14 pm

RRFB wrote:
Slava wrote:Emmanuel Mudiay seems to be carrying on from where he left off last season. I understand giving minutes to your developmental players but at this point I think Denver is handicapping itself every game by giving a 28% usage and 31 MPG to a PG posting 75 offensive rating and -6.8 offensive BPM.

Unfortunately their only other option off the bench is Jameer Nelson.


I wish Mudiay had picked up where he left off last season, cause he finished strong. His last month and a half or so was really encouraging. He looked like a real starting NBA point guard. Unfortunately, he actually looks like he's started his rookie season all over again.

But yeah, Denver might have the worst PG play in the league right now.

Mudiay must have read this thread before gametime, lol
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Solomon Hill 

Post#114 » by laploutocratie » Tue Nov 8, 2016 5:42 am

He's been really bad... how are the Pelicans going to justify his contract?
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Re: Solomon Hill 

Post#115 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Tue Nov 8, 2016 5:43 am

He is overpaid either way, but for what its worth, he started off as complete trash for the Pacers last year as well, but towards the end of the season he was doing very, very well.

Again, contract is awful either way, but maybe the Pelicans can at least hope he picks it up like he did last year?
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Re: Solomon Hill 

Post#116 » by giberish » Tue Nov 8, 2016 5:45 am

A classic case of valuing a 2-week playoff run over a 4-year career. Not the first time it's happened, won't be the last.
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Re: Solomon Hill 

Post#117 » by BloodNinja » Tue Nov 8, 2016 5:56 am

at least he's a warm body
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These dudes are ballin and nobody even cares 

Post#118 » by jamalkandur » Tue Nov 8, 2016 10:30 am

Rodney Hood 17.6ppg/48.1%, 48.6% 3pts, 4.5rpg
CJ Miles 15.7ppg/54.7%, 51.4% 3pts, 1.1 stl, 0.6 to
Kemba Walker 24.3ppg/49.0%, 38.5% 3pts, 5.5 ast

Why some guys never got a hype while some others always get on hype train in any case?

Edit: I saw some mention about TJ Warren but yeah sure there should be more appreciation for him too;
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Re: These dudes are ballin and nobody even cares 

Post#119 » by ShazamDaShiznt » Tue Nov 8, 2016 10:34 am

rodney hood is my man, one of best names ever. Where da hood where da hood where da hood at?
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Re: These dudes are ballin and nobody even cares 

Post#120 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Nov 8, 2016 10:44 am

Toss in TJ Warren as well. Warren and Hood are just fun guys to watch. Those two guys are just silky smooth on offense. Hood's pull up jumper and mid range game is just a thing of beauty. Also had a pretty nasty dunk last week as well. I think if either one of those two guys played in a bigger market their names would be much bigger. I expect Hood's recognition to grow big time this year in the playoffs.

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