NBA Expansion

[Cactus Jack]

SEATTLE BETTER **** GET THAT ARENA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COME ON SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL.

Chris Hansen has the will. Will Seattle government SEIZE on this opportunity, or will it fold because of the maritime industry (or something else)?

Also, I need another team to root for incase the Knicks decide to trade 3 separate top 3 draft picks again for a 38 win future (first round exit). The return of Seattle brings out the organic fan in me more than anything else.

The city has agreed to re-do Key Arena btw. But, like usual it's at a snails pace. Typical Seattle politics.

Cheers!

[2Mas]

Vancouver deserves a team as well. Second choice would be KC.

I'd say Vancouver & Seattle.

Divisions would be :::
Van, Sea, Por, Gsw, Sac
Lal, Lac, Phx, Utah, Den
Sas, Mem, Dal, Hou, NO, Okc

Nyk, Bkn, Phi, Tor, Bos
Atl, Cha, Orl, Mia, Was
Ind, Chi, Mil, Cle, Min, Det

No conferences, just divisions. Playoffs are 1-16.

[LakerLegend]

Vancouver and Seattle are too close to each other to put two teams in at the same time, though I think Vancouver does deserve a team.

[Spens1]

Seattle?

Seattle.

The question is who else? St Louis, Kansas City, Columbus or even Las vegas

my pick would be St Louis (largest metro plus no NFL, baseball may be king but the nba would be #2)

NBA would likely be behind NHL in St. Louis.

The clear answer for your question is Louisville.

Louisville would be good, but would they jump ahead or work alongside kentucky.

[theonlyclutch]

Vancouver had a team already...and it failed miserably. No reason to re-try that failed experiment.

Revenue-wise, adding Vancouver might make the most sense out of all the candidates listed in the OP.

[Village Idiot]

Austin is the other logical choice. They now have a metro population over 2 million and from 2010 -> 2016 was percentage-wise the fastest growing metro over 1 million. They also have a young, well educated demographic with a relatively high disposable income. They are also the largest metro in the US (if you include the Inland Empire as part of LA) without a professional sports team.

Cincinnati should get some consideration as well. They have no indoor sports teams to compete with. They have 2.2 million in the MSA and another 800,000 in Dayton just 50 miles away. Their massive support of their minor league soccer team indicates that there is some potential.

[donkeylips]

I wouldnt mind if they made it 31 teams in the league. But if they wanted it to be even id prefer vancouver or san diego.

[Repeat 3-peat]

PPG Paints Arena would be a great basketball arena. Come on Silver, bring an NBA team to Pittsburgh.

[Maderas94]

Seattle and Kansas City?


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[Chuck Everett]

Seattle and one of Las Vegas/Louisville/Vancouver. St. Louis is a complete non-starter. The city sucks, no corporate dollars and only really supports the Cardinals.

[WhateverBro]

Vancouver and Seattle are too close to each other to put two teams in at the same time, though I think Vancouver does deserve a team.

It's a non issue because most east teams are super close to eachother too. Just realign the league by putting Vancouver and Seattle in the west and move Memphis and New Orleans to the eastern conference (Timberwolves another choice).

[lelelazza8]

Seattle and Las Vegas is my choice...

Modify the divison... 4 per Conference...

North Atlantic Boston-Toronto-New York-Brooklyn
Mid Atlantic Philadelphia-Washington-Indiana-Cleveland
South Atlantic Charlotte-Atlanta-Orlando-Miami
Central Milwaukee-Chicago-Detroit-Minnesota (move to East)

South Pacific Lakers-Clippers-Phoenix-Las Vegas
North Pacific Seattle-Portland-Sacramento-Golden State
South Central Dallas-San Antonio-Houston-New Orleans
Midwest Oklahoma-Memphis-Denver-Utah

4 Game vs team of same division (4x3=12 games)
3 games vs team of same conference but not same division (3x12=36 games)
2 games vs team of other conference (2x16=32 games)

GAMES TOTAL PER TEAM 80 (reduce back to back games...)

[KuruptedCav]

Awesome. Seattle gets a team, re-develops a fan base, builds an arena, and puts together a contender just in time for the owner to relocate it to Wichita!

#RIPSuperSonics


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[BasketballFan7]

Vancouver and Seattle are too close to each other to put two teams in at the same time, though I think Vancouver does deserve a team.

It's a non issue because most east teams are super close to eachother too. Just realign the league by putting Vancouver and Seattle in the west and move Memphis and New Orleans to the eastern conference (Timberwolves another choice).

This is why I am a proponent of having the expansion teams come from the west. It would balance out the league's geographical divide.

[baldur]

I am not so much into American demographics but i believe in the case of an expansion, seattle would be a lock. to many, it was unjust and unfair that the city of seattle had to lose their team. so i suppose nba will make it up for it eventually. when it comes to the second one, a team from the west coast of Canada makes perfect sense which is Vancouver obviously. i don't think its being very close to seattle would be a problem as probably new Orleans would be competing in the easter conference which makes a lot of sense to them.

[LofJ]

Vancouver and Seattle are too close to each other to put two teams in at the same time, though I think Vancouver does deserve a team.

There are a lot of good choices for a 2nd expansion team site. Kansas City, Louisville, Montreal, and Las Vegas would all be great choices. But of those cities Kansas City and Vegas make the most sense geographically. That said I agree that Seattle and Vancouver are too close for both to get expansion teams, but one of them will 100% be getting a team when expansion happens.

Edit: And when it happens the Timberwolves absolutely need to be moved to the Eastern conference. They have by far the highest burden when it comes to travel, that needs to change. They belong in the Eastern conference with teams that are actually relatively close to Minneapolis. Both New Orleans and Memphis would be poor choices to move east. They are both close to OKC, Dallas, and Houston. Minneapolis isn't close to any teams in the Western conference. Their geographic isolation is a substantial competitive disadvantage for them.

[The Penguin]

Vancouver and Seattle are too close to each other to put two teams in at the same time, though I think Vancouver does deserve a team.

There are a lot of good choices for a 2nd expansion team site. Kansas City, Louisville, Montreal, and Las Vegas would all be great choices.But of those cities Kansas City and Vegas make the most sense geographically. That said I agree that Seattle and Vancouver are too close for both to get expansion teams, but one of them will 100% be getting a team when expansion happens.

Edit: And when it happens the Timberwolves absolutely need to be moved to the Eastern conference. They have by far the highest burden when it comes to travel, that needs to change. They belong in the Eastern conference with teams that are actually relatively close to Minneapolis. Both New Orleans and Memphis would be poor choices to move east. They are both close to OKC, Dallas, and Houston. Minneapolis isn't close to any teams in the Western conference. Their geographic isolation is a substantial competitive disadvantage for them.

I've been banging the "Timberwolves to the East" drum hard for a long time. It just makes sense, right now they have no clear rival and no one in the west is really anywhere near them. They already have cross sports rivalries with Chicago (Twins-White Sox / Vikings-Bears, Wild-Blackhawks) / Detroit (Twins - Tigers, Vikings - Lions) / Cleveland (Twins - Indians) / Milwaukee (Vikings - Packers).

I'd like to see 4 franchises added:

Seattle - obvious reasons
Vancouver - willing to give them a second chance
San Diego - with the Chargers leaving town there's a vacuum, it would likely be a destination team for players
Columbus - selfish reasons, but it easily makes more sense than those throwing out Pittsburgh / Cincinnati / Louisville for a variety of reasons, IMO most people throwing out those cities are either residents of those cities or have zero understanding of the area.

Shift the Timberwolves to the East

I'd be willing to entertain the idea of St. Louis / Kansas City, though I don't see any way the NBA unseats the Chiefs, Royals, Blues and Cardinals in fan interest (not to mention Kansas Jayhawks basketball), Kansas City would have to build a new arena and the lack of support for the Rams in St. Louis is concerning. If a major heartland city doesn't have great support for the NFL, the NBA has no chance.

Las Vegas I don't agree with at all, they are adding the Raiders and the NHL, it would be nonsensical to go from 0 to 3 teams in a short window.

[Foye]

Vancouver and Seattle are too close to each other to put two teams in at the same time, though I think Vancouver does deserve a team.

There are a lot of good choices for a 2nd expansion team site. Kansas City, Louisville, Montreal, and Las Vegas would all be great choices. But of those cities Kansas City and Vegas make the most sense geographically. That said I agree that Seattle and Vancouver are too close for both to get expansion teams, but one of them will 100% be getting a team when expansion happens.

Edit: And when it happens the Timberwolves absolutely need to be moved to the Eastern conference. They have by far the highest burden when it comes to travel, that needs to change. They belong in the Eastern conference with teams that are actually relatively close to Minneapolis. Both New Orleans and Memphis would be poor choices to move east. They are both close to OKC, Dallas, and Houston. Minneapolis isn't close to any teams in the Western conference. Their geographic isolation is a substantial competitive disadvantage for them.

Plus playing in the East would help build some local rivalries.

There's no rivalry in the west

[Hoopz Afrik]

Louisville gets my vote

[InWestWeTrust]

They should dissolve 4 teams and just have a bunch of super teams