Eurobasket 2017 SLOVENIA takes the gold

[Cresy06]

Schroeder is playing for Germany like Russell Westbrook for OKC lol

[UcanUwill]

Didn't expect Schroeder to look this good.

[Cresy06]

If he keeps this up, Germany could make it out of the first round, they have a very though Group tho..

[SimonFish]

does Anthony Randolph has Slovenian descent? I don't understand how he could get the Slovenian nationality (he has never played in the Slovenian league).

Nope, but he has Slovenian money, which seems to work better.

pretty dumb tbh.
In soccer, before a player can play for another country, he needs to reside in the country for 5 years.

[UcanUwill]

does Anthony Randolph has Slovenian descent? I don't understand how he could get the Slovenian nationality (he has never played in the Slovenian league).

Nope, but he has Slovenian money, which seems to work better.

pretty dumb tbh.
In soccer, before a player can play for another country, he needs to reside in the country for 5 years.

Yeah, but I believe in FIFA, there is no restriction how many naturalized players can be on the team, where in FIBA can only be 1 per team. I hate these type of naturalized players, but what you gonna do?

[jptremblay]

does Anthony Randolph has Slovenian descent? I don't understand how he could get the Slovenian nationality (he has never played in the Slovenian league).

Nope, but he has Slovenian money, which seems to work better.

pretty dumb tbh.
In soccer, before a player can play for another country, he needs to reside in the country for 5 years.

Yes, in soccer. But this is FIBA basketball, where you can get a foreign passport without spending a single hour in that specific country.
So before saying something is "dumb", you could at least known something about it.

[Goon]

does Anthony Randolph has Slovenian descent? I don't understand how he could get the Slovenian nationality (he has never played in the Slovenian league).

Nope, but he has Slovenian money, which seems to work better.

pretty dumb tbh.
In soccer, before a player can play for another country, he needs to reside in the country for 5 years.

It's not a money decision for him. He gained a EU passport, which holds value to him because most European leagues have a quota for max foreign players and within EU you don't count as foreign if you have a EU passport.

I do agree though that it's stupid that it's allowed to have players on a NATIONAL team that have nothing to do with that country. FIBA is the one that should make a stop to it. Luckly you're only allowed to have 1 non home grown player.

E: jptremblay beat me to it. Kudos.

[SimonFish]

Nope, but he has Slovenian money, which seems to work better.

pretty dumb tbh.
In soccer, before a player can play for another country, he needs to reside in the country for 5 years.

Yes, in soccer. But this is FIBA basketball, where you can get a foreign passport without spending a single hour in that specific country.
So before saying something is "dumb", you could at least known something about it.

yes i understand that.
what i meant was that this requirement (or lack of) is pretty dumb.
i also saw UcanUwill's post that there can only be one naturalized player per team, but i feel the soccer way is somehow "fairer" - at least get the players "legally" naturalized, i.e., fulfilling the immigration policy / residence requirement before getting a passport.

[Cresy06]

Germany beats Ukraine 75 - 63

Schroeder: 32pts, 7as, 5reb
Benzing: 17pts
Voigtman: 8pts, 5as, 6reb

[jptremblay]

Any lithuanian here? Do you expect if Valanciunas will start finally dominating in this tournament? Dude lacks character in my opinion, but has all the tools to become a force in FIBA.

[UcanUwill]

Any lithuanian here? Do you expect if Valanciunas will start finally dominating in this tournament? Dude lacks character in my opinion, but has all the tools to become a force in FIBA.

He started prep games looking awful, but rolled into form in the past few games. I expect a good tournament, but nothing major. Guy is just too mechanical and predictable. I mean FIBA centers will have hard time stopping him even when they know exactly what he is gonna do, but he lacks creativity to create good shots for himself and others on a regular basis. At least rebounding is always there.

[BernteB]

Didn't expect Schroeder to look this good.

you didn't watch eurobasket 2015 then? he had 21.0/4.6/6.0 two years ago. it's absolutely no surprise that he's even better now.

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

No Olympics visa kinda ruined Eurobasket. Still hoping we can get some medal here also hope Croatia can win one (after 20 years )

[Jstock12]

Schroder looked like a beast. Granted, it was against Ukraine, but still.

[UcanUwill]

Georgia with unsportsmanlike following by technical. Throwing game away...

[UcanUwill]

Shengelia looking good. Prime example of someone who went to the NBA too early.

[tria]

who are those teenagers who played at a decent/good level for top european teams? I can only think of Rubio

Hezonja, know he looks like a bust.
Saric, Mirotic. Overrated prospects, although Saric has a fantastic future and has the chance to become an all-star someday.
Mirotic was always overrated, don't get me wrong, he's a good player if he is properly used in a great enviroment, but I will always remember the threads comparing him to Kukoc during his NBA 1st year...with lots of people expecting him to have a better career than Kukoc.

Hezonja and Mirotic again...
Btw, all were born in February except Saric in April.

Hezonja euroleague stats in year he turned 18:
GP: 2, MPG: 9.5, RPG: 2.0, APG: 0.0, PPG 2.5, FG%: 33.3, PIR 1.5
When he turned 19:
GP: 14, MPG: 6.1, RPG: 0.5, APG: 0.2, PPG 1.6, FG%: 42.9, PIR 0.9
When he turned 20:
GP: 22, MPG: 16.5, RPG: 2.0, APG: 1.0, PPG 7.7, FG%: 46.2, PIR 6.1
All with Barcelona

Mirotic euroleague stats in year he turned 18:
GP: 2, MPG: 3.5, RPG: 0.0, APG: 0.0, PPG: 1.0, FG%: 50
When he turned 20:
GP: 29, MPG: 17.2, RPG: 3.8, APG: 0.6, PPG: 8.1, FG%: 52.7
All with Barcelona

Saric euroleague stats in year he turned 18 with Zagreb:
GP: 4, MPG: 15, RPG: 4.5, APG: 0.5, PPG: 2.0, FG%: 20, PIR: 0.8
When he turned 19 with Efes:
GP: 27, MPG: 24.4, RPG: 6.4, APG: 2.3, PPG: 9.9, FG%: 43.3, PIR: 12.6
When he turned 20 with Efes:
GP: 24, MPG: 22.4, RPG: 5.8, APG: 1.5, PPG: 11.7, FG%: 50, PIR: 13.5

Doncic euroleague stats in year he turned 17 with Real:
GP: 12, MPG: 11.1, RPG: 2.3, APG: 2.0, PPG: 3.5, FG%: 40.7, PIR 6.2
When he turned 18:
GP: 35, MPG: 19.9, RPG: 4.5, APG: 4.2, PPG: 7.8, FG%: 50.5, PIR 13.3
All with Real

See the difference? See why Doncic is considered different type of prospect? He is still a prospect that can fail, no doubt about it and you may be right at the end. But if right now you put him in the same basket as Hezonja and MIrotic, you are the one that is wrong.


From other thread:
Jokic: never played in Euroleague, only Serbian national and Adriatic League
Nurkic: 6 games in Euroleague averaging 3.7 minutes 0.7 RPG, 1.8 PPG (as 18 years old). Other Adriatic League and Croatian national.
Porzingis: never played in Euroleague, only Spanish national league and Eurocup
Zubac: never played in Euroleague, only Croatian, Adriatic and some FIBA Euro Cup (4th tier european league)
Zizic: 17 games in actual Euroleague, 20 games, 17 started, 21.9 MPG, 9 PPG, 6.7 RPG, 0.54 APG, 13.3 PIR (as 20 years old)

[2Mas]

See the difference? See why Doncic is considered different type of prospect? He is still a prospect that can fail, no doubt about it and you may be right at the end. But if right now you put him in the same basket as Hezonja and MIrotic, you are the one that is wrong.

I don't see it at all. What is the difference?

[BoardCrusher]

does Anthony Randolph has Slovenian descent? I don't understand how he could get the Slovenian nationality (he has never played in the Slovenian league).

Nope, but he has Slovenian money, which seems to work better.

pretty dumb tbh.
In soccer, before a player can play for another country, he needs to reside in the country for 5 years.

yeah sorry, Slovenia never was a colonial power like France so we dont get to naturalize players from Africa and Guadalupe etc., we also dont give out 1.400 euros of social help like Germany etc., so we are not an attractive destination for migrants that would decide to settle in our country and have an offspring of athletically superior athletes that would automatically grant us an advantage in sports.
Its a miracle by it self that a country with 2 mio residents is doing as well in sports as we are, and since there is a rule that we can naturalize 1 player we are gonna take advantage of that, if you like it or not

See the difference? See why Doncic is considered different type of prospect? He is still a prospect that can fail, no doubt about it and you may be right at the end. But if right now you put him in the same basket as Hezonja and MIrotic, you are the one that is wrong.

I don't see it at all. What is the difference?

there is none, carry on

[maRioGrande]

What a game Lithuania - Georgia. Watched only last 20 sec but it was great.

Georgia won 79-77