Tom Thibodeau, coach of death.

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Re: Tom Thibodeau, coach of death. 

Post#101 » by shangrila » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:38 am

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MGrand15 wrote:OP is wild but for Noah, Deng, AND Rose to be washed up and barely worth minutes at 32 or younger is crazy. We're in an era where careers are being extended.


Wow, didn't realize Loul is only 32! Noah and D-Rose had injuries that derailed their trajectories, but isn't Loul healthy?


I think that what derailed his career was the botched spinal tap.

Done by Thibs, presumably.
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Post#102 » by AssistRubio » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:18 am

Master Ze wrote:I think OP is reaching, the fact that he plays his starters extended minutes isn't grounds for firing someone.

He's determined to end the Wolves playoff drought and doesn't have a strong bench.


And that is 100% his fault. He makes all the personnel decisions. He has final say on everything.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau, coach of death. 

Post#103 » by cursedsportsfan » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:22 am

Knrstz wrote:How do you think he should be executed?


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Post#104 » by MovieMuscle » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:29 am

I love the nonsense being spewed in this thread. Thibs gets defended a whole lot. It's not hard to do your research, guys. Yeah, I now, back in your day, guys played 50 minutes. It's a different age. Don't know how many more injured players/derailed careers you have to see under Thibs to realize a pattern...
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Re: Tom Thibodeau, coach of death. 

Post#105 » by fortinbras » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:33 am

JudBuchler wrote:The Timberwolves need to fire this guy immediately. I think the league has to think about imposing a suspension or ban on this guy.

This guy is insane. The last straw for me was when I was doing research and he was playing his starters 40 minutes when they were out of playoffs and with some homegrown talent needing a chance to show themselves. He still ran these guys out for like 38-43 minutes a game.

He is out of his mind.


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Re: Tom Thibodeau, coach of death. 

Post#106 » by FargoWolf » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:42 am

I can't see anything wrong with his current minutes allocation and this is a Wolves team that has a rather weak bench. People can talk about Chicago but as a Wolves fan I don't really care about Chicago.

KAT's minutes are actually down this year, same for Wiggins who is playing at about the same amount as Flip played him his rookie year. Jimmy is playing similar minutes as Hoiberg played him.
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Post#107 » by mulamutti » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:15 am

Entirely agree with OP. I saw this in the rose days, and i kept yelling at the screen as to why in the world they let rose play as many minutes in regular season games. and since then its just worse. I am a fan of wiggins and kat an the young and capable core at Minny and i cringed when i heard about thibodeau going there. Nothing good can come out of it. he maxes out players in the regular season, they have no gear in the playoffs, they play insane all out defense every regular season game. That's absurd, you can't do that for 80 games and the playoffs. he basically kills his best players who basically make him look like a good coach. he needs to be a defensive only coach, that is only activated about 15 games prior to the playoffs.
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Post#108 » by Tukkerwolf » Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:48 am

Splashin wrote:Worse than his minute management are his rotations in the playoffs. If something isn't working he NEVER adjusts. Have fun with that this spring wolves fans.
We will. Thanks. Without Thibs we would be watching ball on tv. Now Wolves fans for the first time in over a decade can watch playoff bball live in the Target Centre.
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Post#109 » by Tukkerwolf » Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:50 am

ALICEinJAM wrote:1. Giannis Antetokounmpo - MIL 37.4
2. Khris Middleton - MIL 37.3
3. Jrue Holiday - NOP 37.0
4. Jimmy Butler - MIN 36.9
5. LeBron James - CLE 36.9
6. Damian Lillard - POR 36.6
7. Paul George - OKC 36.4
8. C.J. McCollum - POR 36.3
9. DeMarcus Cousins - NOP 36.3
10. Anthony Davis - NOP 36.3
11. Bradley Beal - WAS 36.1
12. Andrew Wiggins - MIN 36.1
13. Trevor Ariza - HOU 35.9
14. Russell Westbrook - OKC 35.9
15. James Harden - HOU 35.9
16. Karl-Anthony Towns - MIN 35.5
17. Ben Simmons - PHI 35.1
18. Gary Harris - DEN 34.8
19. Harrison Barnes - DAL 34.8
20. Kevin Durant - GSW 34.8


Why arent you questioning the coaches of NOP, POR, MIL, etc? You sound like a hater and seems to have no idea about the situation


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Post#110 » by logical_art » Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:35 pm

JudBuchler wrote:The Timberwolves need to fire this guy immediately. I think the league has to think about imposing a suspension or ban on this guy.

I know for a fact its been discussed in here before. Although I havent seen it yet.

How many careers has this guy killed?

I saw an article with Noah, who can't get a minute of basketball anymore. Now he is sent packing because he is angry. IM thinking. Bro you suck that's why, then im like wait, is it really Noah's fault this happened?

Noah was at a time one of the most valuable centers, like a Horford, but even better. Charles even said at one point "MVP canidate and future HOF'er" lol

Rose was an MVP and was going to have a career of the ages for a guy playing point guard.

Deng was a spectacular player who did everything right and was a great teammate.

Ben Gordon is in the loony bin.

Carlos Boozer went nuts and flew to China.

So many more I can't name right now. I feel like in 3 years we will start to see the effects on the Timbs players...

This guy is insane. The last straw for me was when I was doing research and he was playing his starters 40 minutes when they were out of playoffs and with some homegrown talent needing a chance to show themselves. He still ran these guys out for like 38-43 minutes a game.

He is out of his mind.


Gordon never played for Thibs.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau, coach of death. 

Post#111 » by Nuntius » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:57 pm

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Wow, didn't realize Loul is only 32! Noah and D-Rose had injuries that derailed their trajectories, but isn't Loul healthy?


I think that what derailed his career was the botched spinal tap.

Done by Thibs, presumably.


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Re: Tom Thibodeau, coach of death. 

Post#112 » by GeorgeMarcus » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:05 pm

ChiCityHoops34 wrote:
FinnTheHuman wrote:Thibs stole OP's gf.


You don't have to worry about that part with Thibs...


Yeah, he kind of looks like the Danny DeVito penguin.
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Post#113 » by ejn1214 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:23 am

Tukkerwolf wrote:
ALICEinJAM wrote:1. Giannis Antetokounmpo - MIL 37.4
2. Khris Middleton - MIL 37.3
3. Jrue Holiday - NOP 37.0
4. Jimmy Butler - MIN 36.9
5. LeBron James - CLE 36.9
6. Damian Lillard - POR 36.6
7. Paul George - OKC 36.4
8. C.J. McCollum - POR 36.3
9. DeMarcus Cousins - NOP 36.3
10. Anthony Davis - NOP 36.3
11. Bradley Beal - WAS 36.1
12. Andrew Wiggins - MIN 36.1
13. Trevor Ariza - HOU 35.9
14. Russell Westbrook - OKC 35.9
15. James Harden - HOU 35.9
16. Karl-Anthony Towns - MIN 35.5
17. Ben Simmons - PHI 35.1
18. Gary Harris - DEN 34.8
19. Harrison Barnes - DAL 34.8
20. Kevin Durant - GSW 34.8


Why arent you questioning the coaches of NOP, POR, MIL, etc? You sound like a hater and seems to have no idea about the situation


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Pretty sure the coach of MIL was questioned... He is no longer with the Bucks...
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Post#114 » by goodboy » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:34 am

coach of death lol

love it.
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Post#115 » by 3Diamantidis » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:43 am

MaxRider wrote:Is it that bad? Milwaukee has two players avg over 37 mpg. NOP has two over 36 mpg. Butler is #7 avg 36.5 mpg



Is it good?
Giannis just returned after missing 2 games with knee soreness. Which happened again earlier in the season for another 2 games. They told him to stay out of the eurobasket to protect his knee and kidd had him #1 in MPG. :crazy:
Middleton was playing 37mins always even when he was clearly fatigued and out of shape. Not the best way to protect a player and make him regain his form.
NOP plays davis over 36 mins per night even when there's no need. With his injury history, is that good?
Butler is on his 4th year after his breakout. Let's see how the mins distribution will affect him starting from next season.

That's the only knock on thibodeau but it's a valid one.
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Post#116 » by LordBaldric » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:57 am

Seems pretty over the top. "Death Coach" really?
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Post#117 » by Prince187 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:08 am

Bologna Smasher wrote:I don't get the complaint about him playing his guys too many minutes. It was pretty common back in the day for players to play at least 40 minutes a game. It's nothing new. This rest crap has gotten out of hand, save it for the last few weeks of the season.

Not even that far back in the day. Just 10 years ago
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Post#118 » by AirP. » Fri Feb 2, 2018 4:41 pm

Minutes per game has become a flawed stat for wear and tear because of how teams are handling the players in between games(which there is no published stats to go off of).
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Re: Tom Thibodeau, coach of death. 

Post#119 » by JunkYardDog6ix » Fri Feb 2, 2018 5:40 pm

mulamutti wrote:Entirely agree with OP. I saw this in the rose days, and i kept yelling at the screen as to why in the world they let rose play as many minutes in regular season games. and since then its just worse. I am a fan of wiggins and kat an the young and capable core at Minny and i cringed when i heard about thibodeau going there. Nothing good can come out of it. he maxes out players in the regular season, they have no gear in the playoffs, they play insane all out defense every regular season game. That's absurd, you can't do that for 80 games and the playoffs. he basically kills his best players who basically make him look like a good coach. he needs to be a defensive only coach, that is only activated about 15 games prior to the playoffs.



yet his teams almost never lose in the first round , enough of this BS
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Re: Tom Thibodeau, coach of death. 

Post#120 » by LEO MESSI » Fri Feb 2, 2018 5:57 pm

miamiheat319 wrote:For me, it's not about how much he plays his players, it's about his choices of who plays and when. For example, the other night against the Raptors I think, Jeff Teague went something like 1-9 in the first half and ended up going 2-11 the whole game and he was the one playing down the stretch when the game was close even though Tyus was having a huge impact on the game and just made some crucial plays. It seems like Thibs always takes players out when they get hot and never play deserving players enough. Tyus should be starting. Anyone who watches Timberwolves games should agree with me. But Thibs continues to load Teague with minutes even though he doesn't have as much of a positive impact on the game.

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