Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer?

[Joel Embust]

Tatum over anything the Lakers have to offer.

[BramptonYute]

Tatum over anything the Lakers have to offer.

Thing is, Ainge isnt gonna give up Tatum.

[red96]

Yes, whichever players they trade for have seen that the organization will hold players hostage out of spite and will be less likely to stick around.

AD isnt held hostage. He'll be traded to Boston.

[NapoleonII]

Lmao at anyone who thinks Ainge will deal Tatum.

He wins trades, he finds ways to give up almost nothing for title contention.

[statsman]

Tatum over anything the Lakers have to offer.

Thing is, Ainge isnt gonna give up Tatum.

Then they won't get AD unless they somehow come up with a couple of lottery picks (and none of that protected BS that eventually turns into a 2nd round pick years later).

[Gooner]

Lmao at anyone who thinks Ainge will deal Tatum.

He wins trades, he finds ways to give up almost nothing for title contention.

Exactly, he won't allow himself to get played by LeBron and his agency.

[Kurosawa0]

I think you're overrating the Lakers young guys. I think the league has caught on to the fact that Ball, Ingram and to a lesser extent Kuzma aren't ever going to be all that great of players. That plus 2-4 late firsts isn't that appealing.

One of the picks would certainly not be a late pick. The Lakers pick this year will be about middle of the draft. And as for the young players, they're not busts. They may not be superstars, but I'd bet on at least one of them being very good. At least one of them will get a max contract in their careers.

[HotTubMike]

I think you're overrating the Lakers young guys. I think the league has caught on to the fact that Ball, Ingram and to a lesser extent Kuzma aren't ever going to be all that great of players. That plus 2-4 late firsts isn't that appealing.

One of the picks would certainly not be a late pick. The Lakers pick this year will be about middle of the draft. And as for the young players, they're not busts. They may not be superstars, but I'd bet on at least one of them being very good. At least one of them will get a max contract in their careers.

The Pelicans don't want a huge volume of Lakers trash that was the core of a 35 win team. That's why they aren't taking the deal. They don't believe in those players and they shouldn't. It doesn't look like Ingram/Ball are ever going to justify their #2 selections.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Porzingis and 86% of a top 5 pick was the more mystifying.

[Kurosawa0]

I think you're overrating the Lakers young guys. I think the league has caught on to the fact that Ball, Ingram and to a lesser extent Kuzma aren't ever going to be all that great of players. That plus 2-4 late firsts isn't that appealing.

One of the picks would certainly not be a late pick. The Lakers pick this year will be about middle of the draft. And as for the young players, they're not busts. They may not be superstars, but I'd bet on at least one of them being very good. At least one of them will get a max contract in their careers.

The Pelicans don't want a huge volume of Lakers trash that was the core of a 35 win team. That's why they aren't taking the deal. They don't believe in those players and they shouldn't. It doesn't look like Ingram/Ball are ever going to justify their #2 selections.

Okay, I'm not discussing this with someone that's going to act like a 12 year old.

[Kurosawa0]

Porzingis and 86% of a top 5 pick was the more mystifying.

I actually agree with this. If the Knicks offered KP and their #1 unprotected, the Pelicans were crazy to turn that down.

[madmaxmedia]

Demps understands one Tatum for the next 6 years is better than the combination of Lakers young players, quality over quantity.

I like Tatum, but i don't understand why everyone views him as such a superior player to Ingram and Kuzma.

Kuzma’s defense makes him essentially a bench player on a good team. And Ingram is more of a point forward that isn’t quite good enough to have the offense run through him. I also don’t like that Ingram will be off his rookie deal soon.

Tatum is a more complete player at a very valuable position.

No one who is being serious means to say Kuzma and Ingram don’t have value. I just think they are limited player that would have limited impact on putting together a really good team. Where as Tatum is a great compliment next to Jrue and a no doubt front line starter.

Also, there is a nonlinear correlation between player value on the court, and player value in a trade. One might think relatively highly of Ingram, but if Tatum is a level above Ingram then his trade value is at least 2 levels above because basketball is a strong-link sport (a top heavy team is better than a team of average players.)

That's why AD is worth so much in the first place.

[zimpy27]

I honestly think there is a sequence of merging factors that suggest moving on from this deal may be a mistake.

AD says he won't sign long-term. Does Kyrie re-sign long-term with Boston if he knows AD isn't re-signing there?

It may already be a foregone conclusion that Boston won't trade Tatum for AD until Kyrie re-signs which he may not until AD commits long-term (which he won't). The only chance Boston keep AD long-term is if Kyrie is still there. It's like a bizarre catch-22 scenario.

Knicks won't trade the 1st pick for AD if they can get Kyrie and KD for free. More likely they test the free agency waters first. If they don't get those players then they don't make a play for AD regardless.

Honestly the only way they get better offers from Knicks and Boston is if Kyrie commits to re-sign with Boston on July 1 before any other moves are made. In that instance, Boston and Knicks will both try trade for AD to pair with their star. I think that will be very unlikely though.

[HotTubMike]

One of the picks would certainly not be a late pick. The Lakers pick this year will be about middle of the draft. And as for the young players, they're not busts. They may not be superstars, but I'd bet on at least one of them being very good. At least one of them will get a max contract in their careers.

The Pelicans don't want a huge volume of Lakers trash that was the core of a 35 win team. That's why they aren't taking the deal. They don't believe in those players and they shouldn't. It doesn't look like Ingram/Ball are ever going to justify their #2 selections.

Okay, I'm not discussing this with someone that's going to act like a 12 year old.

I mean, those are facts. Those players are the core of a 35 win team and they are "trash" in my opinion as in they won't ever be all that good or justify their high draft selections. That's why the Pelicans won't trade for them and that's why we are where we are on 2/7/2019 at 11:33 AM CST.

[madmaxmedia]

Porzingis and 86% of a top 5 pick was the more mystifying.

I actually agree with this. If the Knicks offered KP and their #1 unprotected, the Pelicans were crazy to turn that down.

If that trade was made, how does that affect the Knicks' W-L for the rest of the year, as well as their lottery chances? The timing isn't right for the Pelicans for such a trade.

What if say the Clippers absolutely luck out and win the #1 pick? They would suddenly be able to offer the best package in the offseason, because they are on AD's list and have the best asset of all to offer (same goes for whoever wins the lottery, but not being on AD's short list means you probably just keep the pick.)

[Jedi32]

Demps understands one Tatum for the next 6 years is better than the combination of Lakers young players, quality over quantity.

Yes because we see how the great tatum has boston at the top of the east and how he's already putting up 30/8/8. Ainge's greatest hustle was making folks believe he has all these young stars in boston.

[MotownMadness]

I think Demps is going to fully understand why Pop is still salty about Kawhi leaving. The offers were just not at all what you think teams would risk. He had to settle with DeMar from literally a lack of any offers of young value

[TommyPoints]

Demps understands one Tatum for the next 6 years is better than the combination of Lakers young players, quality over quantity.

Yes because we see how the great tatum has boston at the top of the east and how he's already putting up 30/8/8. Ainge's greatest hustle was making folks believe he has all these young stars in boston.

Why does a 20 year old need to put up 30/8/8 to be better than LA’s players?

[Kurosawa0]

Porzingis and 86% of a top 5 pick was the more mystifying.

I actually agree with this. If the Knicks offered KP and their #1 unprotected, the Pelicans were crazy to turn that down.

If that trade was made, how does that affect the Knicks' W-L for the rest of the year, as well as their lottery chances? The timing isn't right for the Pelicans for such a trade.

What if say the Clippers absolutely luck out and win the #1 pick? They would suddenly be able to offer the best package in the offseason, because they are on AD's list and have the best asset of all to offer (same goes for whoever wins the lottery, but not being on AD's short list means you probably just keep the pick.)

AD has a the Pelican outside of the playoffs and that's a much better roster than what he'd have with the Knicks. And, I know he's hurt, but KP was a legit all-star.

[Stillwater]

Well if history has anything to say about it...yep they will regret not getting a couple former lottery picks to work with and some picks in the quiver. not to mention some solid role players and if Kuzma was included a lottery level player.
I'm sure they could get 1 better ceiling player in Tatum in principal , but sorry I don't think Ainge moves Tatum for a rental.
All comes down to what is more valuable to Pels: Lakers offer, or a Memphis pick in 2020 top 6 protected (likely be late lottery)
maybe a Clippers pick this year around 14-18 Jalen Brown and fillers.