NBA Finals Thread #8: Golden State Warriors vs Toronto Raptors | TOR LEADS 3-2

[Dr_Heat]

I want the Dinosaurs to win and I’m not even a Raptors fan but it was wrong to cheer when Durant got injured. With that said , don’t judge a few idiotic fans to the rest of the Raptors nation. So sad for Durant

[Vlade Divac]

Toronto fans apologizing by using the excuse of real fans, You're not sorry at all. You know why?cuz you're still making excuses for the "real fans".. the ones who were priced out. Dude! The entire Jurassic Park outside the arena was cheering upon his injury. There's video proof!!

I was at the Mississauga Jurassic Park and almost everyone of those idiots cheered as well.

And if you were truly sorry, you would not use the counter narrative (false one at that) that the Warriors should be blamed etc. They didn't force KD to play. If they really wanted to force him to play, they would have done that in Game 4.

Stop with this nonsense. Own up to the classless fanbase that is the Raptors fans. I'm a Torontonian born and raised. I know a thing or two about Toronto Sports Fans. Majority of them are by and large a bunch of classless idiots who think the entire world is out to get them.

You don't sound like you're from Toronto at all.

Just because I don't blindly follow the mob doesn't mean I'm not from Toronto. I love my city. Doesn't mean I can't call the BS I see from Toronto Sports fans.

Guess what? Some of us follow teams from before Raptors existed. In my case, the Spurs. Belonging to a city doesnt mean you have to be a fan of everything that comes with it.

And I see enough bandwagon fans who are buying raps merchandise and getting together in bars and on the streets chanting we the north just so they can post their **** on Instagram and be part of the cool crowd. The couldnt care less about the raps if they become a lotto team tomorrow.

And as Spurs fan, hating Raptors you were in Mississauga Jurassic park on the rain and in cold weather because...

As a NBA fan "before Raptors existed" you should know that Spur's DeRozan was not supposed to play last night?

[Son Goku 25]

Listen, I've said this before and I respect KD more now as he put his team first before his health and it cost him, I hope he recovers 100% as the NBA needs him, he's a great player.


(Copy pasting from other thread)

People acting like they love KD out of nowhere. The real hate is against the Raptors who are a great bunch of guys/ high character guys in general. A few fans out of the millions shouldn't take that away. If people didn't notice, Lowry/Ibaka were telling those few fans to shut up as they were cheering etc. You can also see a video which people won't show where fans were cheering on KD as he walked off the court.

Every damn fan base has terrible bandwagon/casual fans and the raps are at the peak of this with so many fans in general.

I'm not surprised to see some fans from certain teams come here and have an excuse to hate on the raptors and continue with their agendas because quite frankly, they are mad it's not their team getting this opportunity to take down the warriors (or they lost to the raps during this run).

[Vlade Divac]

I want the Dinosaurs to win and I’m not even a Raptors fan but it was wrong to cheer when Durant got injured. With that said , don’t judge a few idiotic fans to the rest of the Raptors nation. So sad for Durant

Thank you!

[Dr_Heat]

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[Firespo]

Listen to Windhorst/Lowe podcast and see what they say about Kawhi travel and Cousins foul. I ALREADY stated that GSW deserved to win, but not with the fact that refs were pro Raptors.

lol they clearly were though. The call to take cousins tip in away was one of the worst calls I've ever seen and by that time it was clearly blatant who the refs wanted to win.

Its in the rule books, lol. If any part of the ball is above the cylinder, even the smallest amount, its goaltending for the player to touch it.

And that Cousins screen is clearly an offensive foul, and the Raps only got it because Curry got a 3 off the same screen a min ago to tie the game. Dude bumped the chit out of FVV and gave Curry like 5 feet of space. That should be ok to you? lol

Lmao they showed the replay on the tip from multiple angles. It was clearly off the **** basket.

[Firespo]

Listen to Windhorst/Lowe podcast and see what they say about Kawhi travel and Cousins foul. I ALREADY stated that GSW deserved to win, but not with the fact that refs were pro Raptors.

lol they clearly were though. The call to take cousins tip in away was one of the worst calls I've ever seen and by that time it was clearly blatant who the refs wanted to win.

That just isn't true, they need conclusive evidence that the call was incorrect and 3 officials and the NBA didn't find any. it looked like the edge of the ball was above the cylinder so they can't reverse the call. If they had more angles maybe but they didn't. They made the right call based on the video they had.

it was off the basket. Not sure what other evidence you need. Horrible call.

[mademan]

lol they clearly were though. The call to take cousins tip in away was one of the worst calls I've ever seen and by that time it was clearly blatant who the refs wanted to win.

Its in the rule books, lol. If any part of the ball is above the cylinder, even the smallest amount, its goaltending for the player to touch it.

And that Cousins screen is clearly an offensive foul, and the Raps only got it because Curry got a 3 off the same screen a min ago to tie the game. Dude bumped the chit out of FVV and gave Curry like 5 feet of space. That should be ok to you? lol

Lmao they showed the replay on the tip from multiple angles. It was clearly off the **** basket.

Not only was it not off (to me the edge of the ball was still over the edge of the cylinder), but all the announcers and even the ref they have to come on to discuss it all said the same thing. It was unclear

[Sisqo]

lol they clearly were though. The call to take cousins tip in away was one of the worst calls I've ever seen and by that time it was clearly blatant who the refs wanted to win.

That just isn't true, they need conclusive evidence that the call was incorrect and 3 officials and the NBA didn't find any. it looked like the edge of the ball was above the cylinder so they can't reverse the call. If they had more angles maybe but they didn't. They made the right call based on the video they had.

it was off the basket. Not sure what other evidence you need. Horrible call.

Clearly more evidence since there isn't a angle that shows its off the basket. Show me definitive proof because the NBA, Refs or I haven't seen any. I'm open to change my mind but I haven't seen anything that shows it was COMPLETELY off

[DingleJerry]

Did ya'll not see the over the top replay that clearly showed it still over the rim? It was clear as day from that angle. That was the definitive one yet they only showed it once or twice. I'd bet that was the reason they announced it as 'confirmed'. Prior to that angle I had the opinion that it was likely clean but tough to overturn due to no clear angle. Then they showed a clear shot of it over the rim, done.

At the bare minimum, the fact it's even being discussed here kind of shows that it at the very least was not clearly incorrect thus making it tough to overturn without the clear overwhelming evidence.

[Hero]

Warriors fans and Raptors haters enjoy the next couple of days.

We'll see what happens in game 6.

[yoyoboy]

I never thought this would happen, but I've switched who I'm cheering for and hope the Raptors blow this.

I'm the furthest thing from a Warriors fan and I think the FO was completely negligent for okaying Durant playing this soon. But watching the Raptors fans inside and outside the arena going nuts when Durant went down was pretty disgusting. And then you've got the incident of the dude getting sucker punched twice by two Raps fans. Also I've got a friend I used to go to school with who lives in Toronto now, and he was at the game and said any GS fans who went to the game were heckled and insulted all game long past what he saw as the acceptable level. Raptors fans on this board have been pretty obnoxious lately in my opinion, as well, and it's been a little annoying to see the exaggeration of how well Kawhi is playing (to the point of even downplaying the performances of their own guys, who have been awesome!) and all these assertions that he's maybe having the GOAT peak and clearly better than LeBron ever was. One, there's zero argument for that, and it's especially strange to see that as if Raptors fans didn't get an up close and personal look at how LeBron destroyed them the past few years in the postseason. With all of this in mind, I don't think the Raptors fanbase are "bad fans," I just think they've become spoiled by this playoff run after years of not really coming close or feeling like they had a legitimate chance to win it all, and their excitement has gotten the best of them. Seeing them knocked down a peg or two after tasting that sweet championship and falling just short will be sort of a learning lesson. Finally, Durant's injury and the knowledge that he'll never be close to the same player again is pretty heartbreaking, and I don't want his short-lived return to be for nothing. There's no doubt in my mind GS would have lost last night without the good minutes KD gave them yesterday (11 points on 5 shots, +6) and now you've got a team that has to be extra motivated and rallying around and for him. If they threepeat, Durant absolutely helped achieve that.

[nymets1]

If the Raptors blow this series cause I have Kawhi easily as the best player in the game, He can't be best player in the game anymore by his team blowing a 3-1 series lead. He'll keep it as long the Raptors win game 6 or game 7. If the Warriors come back to win the series than there's no real best player in the game.

KD will never be the same player again with this torn achilles injury, He's done as a top 3 player with this injury
Giannis has to work on his game
Lebron was hurt last year and his team missed the playoffs

If raptors lose the series, Nobody else deserves to be called the best player in the game.

[DingleJerry]

12 months ago LBJ was putting up 40 point triple double basically every game. He's still clearly the best player. Think of it this way, if you were going to play one basketball game today, would anyone honestly not pick LBJ first?

[PizzaSteve]

GS is still going to lose. Lost in the KD mess is the fact that Looney is gone again.. that means horrible defense featuring Cousins is hear to stay for the rest of the series.

Toronto really crapped the bed tonight.... not even getting up shots in multiple times in crunch time

You’re right about the gravity of losing Looney again and the fact that he is a better basketball player than this version of DMC (#5allstars #so-unfair).

In his post game on local tv they are going to have an mri and reevaluate. It may be possible we see him again.

P.S.

This investigate the medical staff stuff is crap. People who know nothing trying once again to make GS villians just because an unfortunate incident happened.

Toronto has played Kawhi 35+ min a game with what is obviously an injury too, a year after he even sat out, plus needed load management all year. If he blew out his leg and was done for a year would people scream murder about their medical staff? Are they letting VanLeet play with a concussion when he should be out under the protocol?

Its sports, its the Finals. And the people calling to investigate GS medical are just looking for reasons to hate, which is sad. They know nothing, are not a doctor, are not close to the situation, did not see the workouts, they held him out 6 weeks, the long end of the injury type, are one of the most conservative and respected medical staffs in the league historically, etc.

My wife worked with this staff directly for over 6 months. You dont know anything (typical of rgm).

[PizzaSteve]

Did ya'll not see the over the top replay that clearly showed it still over the rim? It was clear as day from that angle. That was the definitive one yet they only showed it once or twice. I'd bet that was the reason they announced it as 'confirmed'. Prior to that angle I had the opinion that it was likely clean but tough to overturn due to no clear angle. Then they showed a clear shot of it over the rim, done.

At the bare minimum, the fact it's even being discussed here kind of shows that it at the very least was not clearly incorrect thus making it tough to overturn without the clear overwhelming evidence.

They cherry picked a clip as it was heading back because Boogie's hand was directing it back into the cyl. His hand is clearly on the ball pushing it back. The entire ball does not need to be outside, just where his hand tips it.

This is not how the rule is called for 99.9% of tip ins. This kind of putback is 2 points 99% of the time. Add that to the travel calls, the ignoring Kawhis many travels, the out of bounds of a raps foot called raps ball, the FTs, ignored contact on warriors. Movimg screen on last possession. I saw a pattern. Saw it in 1sr quarter too, where 75% from 3 vs bricks should have been double digit lead, but again FT bailouts only on one side of court. But I admit bias. Perhaps im wrong.

[Firespo]

That just isn't true, they need conclusive evidence that the call was incorrect and 3 officials and the NBA didn't find any. it looked like the edge of the ball was above the cylinder so they can't reverse the call. If they had more angles maybe but they didn't. They made the right call based on the video they had.

it was off the basket. Not sure what other evidence you need. Horrible call.

Clearly more evidence since there isn't a angle that shows its off the basket. Show me definitive proof because the NBA, Refs or I haven't seen any. I'm open to change my mind but I haven't seen anything that shows it was COMPLETELY off

I don't know how to share screen shots.

[Mikistan]

GS is still going to lose. Lost in the KD mess is the fact that Looney is gone again.. that means horrible defense featuring Cousins is hear to stay for the rest of the series.

Toronto really crapped the bed tonight.... not even getting up shots in multiple times in crunch time

You’re right about the gravity of losing Looney again and the fact that he is a better basketball player than this version of DMC (#5allstars #so-unfair).

In his post game on local tv they are going to have an mri and reevaluate. It may be possible we see him again.

P.S.

This investigate the medical staff stuff is crap. People who know nothing trying once again to make GS villians just because an unfortunate incident happened.

Toronto has played Kawhi 35+ min a game with what is obviously an injury too, a year after he even sat out, plus needed load management all year. If he blew out his leg and was done for a year would people scream murder about their medical staff? Are they letting VanLeet play with a concussion when he should be out under the protocol?

Its sports, its the Finals. And the people calling to investigate GS medical are just looking for reasons to hate, which is sad. They know nothing, are not a doctor, are not close to the situation, did not see the workouts, they held him out 6 weeks, the long end of the injury type, are one of the most conservative and respected medical staffs in the league historically, etc.

My wife worked with this staff directly for over 6 months. You dont know anything (typical of rgm).

My dad owns the Timberwolves, my cousin is on the staff for the magic, my brother is an assistant coach for Guangdong, you don't know anything.

[MrSparkle]

As far as the goaltending goes... NBA should just adopt the Euro rule of making it fair play after touching rim. Tip, dunk, or rebound after it touches rim, so long your hand doesn’t go into the hoop.

#1 Brings back the value of the big man.

#2 Gets rid of the uncertainty and making the call difficult for the ref.

The Cousins interference looking like the ball might still graze the front of the rim. Had almost no chance going in but who knows, Klay gets the spin and roll, could’ve still grazed it.

It’s a dumb rule. Was a good play — just possibly illegal due to the archaic rule.

[Son Goku 25]

LOLL All these fans coming out from hiding, wonder where they were before?