If you were Anthony Davis, would you like to be manipulated by your agent like that? In public?

[durka]

You vette and hire experts to do their jobs. You still make the final calls. Same with a doctor or an agent. Period.

Kevin Durants mother specifically said he played because the doctors told him to. Are you just ignoring that because it doesn't help you prove your point?

Agents don't decide whether you request a trade. They are your representative to teams and media and do what you tell them to do. Doctors decide whether you're cleared to play whether you want to or not, for example Klay Thompson in game 3. If KD said "clear me or I'm finding another doctor" and that doctor cleared him because of that, that would technically be malpractice and he should lose his license. If a player says request a trade for me and the agent does it, he's doing his job properly.

Unless his mother was one of the doctors, I'm not overly concerned with anything she says on the topic.

Agents absolutely help players with decisions. They are advisers first and foremost. They absolutely help with if you should request a trade. They help with what market is best. They help with what brands to endorse. They help with what public events to go to. What charities to support. They help with connecting players to other experts within their network of influence. If that was all agents do, players are getting completely robbed.

To take Steve Kerr and Bob Myers side of the story without taking into account Wanda Durant is really just saying you're only looking at one side of the story. She's as informed in the situation as anyone could be. She spoke to Kevin 5 minutes after his injury and gives us insight on his perspective of the situation.

I'm not sure if you've ever interacted with pro athletes or musicians, I have. Agents aren't the ones directing players where to go. Yes they use connections and resources that have, and they might get a word in when a player is making a desicion, but at the end of the day their job is maximizing earning potentials and acting on what the player wants. A doctor has responsibility to tell a player they should not play if he believes he's not healthy enough. Equating the 2 jobs as the same is just silly.

[macNcheese3]

I would never hire Rich Paul as my agent for starters.

[dhsilv2]

Kevin Durants mother specifically said he played because the doctors told him to. Are you just ignoring that because it doesn't help you prove your point?

Agents don't decide whether you request a trade. They are your representative to teams and media and do what you tell them to do. Doctors decide whether you're cleared to play whether you want to or not, for example Klay Thompson in game 3. If KD said "clear me or I'm finding another doctor" and that doctor cleared him because of that, that would technically be malpractice and he should lose his license. If a player says request a trade for me and the agent does it, he's doing his job properly.

Unless his mother was one of the doctors, I'm not overly concerned with anything she says on the topic.

Agents absolutely help players with decisions. They are advisers first and foremost. They absolutely help with if you should request a trade. They help with what market is best. They help with what brands to endorse. They help with what public events to go to. What charities to support. They help with connecting players to other experts within their network of influence. If that was all agents do, players are getting completely robbed.

To take Steve Kerr and Bob Myers side of the story without taking into account Wanda Durant is really just saying you're only looking at one side of the story. She's as informed in the situation as anyone could be. She spoke to Kevin 5 minutes after his injury and gives us insight on his perspective of the situation.

I'm not sure if you've ever interacted with pro athletes or musicians, I have. Agents aren't the ones directing players where to go. Yes they use connections and resources that have, and they might get a word in when a player is making a desicion, but at the end of the day their job is maximizing earning potentials and acting on what the player wants. A doctor has responsibility to tell a player they should not play if he believes he's not healthy enough. Equating the 2 jobs as the same is just silly.

Side? Where are there sides? Now you're making stuff up.

Do you just go to the phone book and randomly hire a doctor? No, you vette them, likely someone like KD did a LOT of work to find the right doctors, just like AD did with his agent.

[MotownMadness]

I would never hire Rich Paul as my agent for starters.

He saved us from KCP accepting a 5/80 contract under SVG being insanely greedy, Paul is a joke and a pain to deal with.

[durka]

Unless his mother was one of the doctors, I'm not overly concerned with anything she says on the topic.

Agents absolutely help players with decisions. They are advisers first and foremost. They absolutely help with if you should request a trade. They help with what market is best. They help with what brands to endorse. They help with what public events to go to. What charities to support. They help with connecting players to other experts within their network of influence. If that was all agents do, players are getting completely robbed.

To take Steve Kerr and Bob Myers side of the story without taking into account Wanda Durant is really just saying you're only looking at one side of the story. She's as informed in the situation as anyone could be. She spoke to Kevin 5 minutes after his injury and gives us insight on his perspective of the situation.

I'm not sure if you've ever interacted with pro athletes or musicians, I have. Agents aren't the ones directing players where to go. Yes they use connections and resources that have, and they might get a word in when a player is making a desicion, but at the end of the day their job is maximizing earning potentials and acting on what the player wants. A doctor has responsibility to tell a player they should not play if he believes he's not healthy enough. Equating the 2 jobs as the same is just silly.

Side? Where are there sides? Now you're making stuff up.

Do you just go to the phone book and randomly hire a doctor? No, you vette them, likely someone like KD did a LOT of work to find the right doctors, just like AD did with his agent.

The perspective of a player vs the perspective of the team. The perspective of the player (or his close family member who is in constant contact with him and only has his interests at heart), is that the player felt comfortable playing because the team cleared him medically? The perspective of the team is it was a "collaborative desicion.". Those are 2 pretty different narratives being told in interviews that have been done in the past day. You're just conveniently ignoring the narrative of the player because it doesn't fit with the point your trying to make. It's a team doing damage control vs a mother trying to look at why her son just suffered a career altering injury.

You're just reaching at this point, just admit a player telling an agent to request a trade is different than a player getting incorrect medical advice and playing through an injury. The proof that the medical advice was wrong is that he reinjured himself, how do you argue that? The doctors cleared him, he is now has an obviously related injury to the first one. Pretty black and white.

What proof is there that AD is making this desicion based off Rich Paul telling him he has to go to request a trade and go to LA? Some beat writer saying he's "not acting like himself"? That's pure conjecture. Saying KD playing resulting in injury because doctors incorrectly cleared him is black and white facts.


It doesn't really seem like you even know what you're arguing about at this point so I'm just going to leave it at that.

[dhsilv2]

To take Steve Kerr and Bob Myers side of the story without taking into account Wanda Durant is really just saying you're only looking at one side of the story. She's as informed in the situation as anyone could be. She spoke to Kevin 5 minutes after his injury and gives us insight on his perspective of the situation.

I'm not sure if you've ever interacted with pro athletes or musicians, I have. Agents aren't the ones directing players where to go. Yes they use connections and resources that have, and they might get a word in when a player is making a desicion, but at the end of the day their job is maximizing earning potentials and acting on what the player wants. A doctor has responsibility to tell a player they should not play if he believes he's not healthy enough. Equating the 2 jobs as the same is just silly.

Side? Where are there sides? Now you're making stuff up.

Do you just go to the phone book and randomly hire a doctor? No, you vette them, likely someone like KD did a LOT of work to find the right doctors, just like AD did with his agent.

The perspective of a player vs the perspective of the team. The perspective of the player (or his close family member who is in constant contact with him and only has his interests at heart), is that the player felt comfortable playing because the team cleared him medically? The perspective of the team is it was a "collaborative desicion.". Those are 2 pretty different narratives being told in interviews that have been done in the past day. You're just conveniently ignoring the narrative of the player because it doesn't fit with the point your trying to make. It's a team doing damage control vs a mother trying to look at why her son just suffered a career altering injury.

You're just reaching at this point, just admit a player telling an agent to request a trade is different than a player getting incorrect medical advice and playing through an injury. The proof that the medical advice was wrong is that he reinjured himself, how do you argue that? The doctors cleared him, he is now has an obviously related injury to the first one. Pretty black and white.

What proof is there that AD is making this desicion based off Rich Paul telling him he has to go to request a trade and go to LA? Some beat writer saying he's "not acting like himself"? That's pure conjecture. Saying KD playing resulting in injury because doctors incorrectly cleared him is black and white facts.


It doesn't really seem like you even know what you're arguing about at this point so I'm just going to leave it at that.

I don't know what went through either player's head because I wasn't there. At the end of the day both decisions are the players and the player's alone.

[durka]

Side? Where are there sides? Now you're making stuff up.

Do you just go to the phone book and randomly hire a doctor? No, you vette them, likely someone like KD did a LOT of work to find the right doctors, just like AD did with his agent.

The perspective of a player vs the perspective of the team. The perspective of the player (or his close family member who is in constant contact with him and only has his interests at heart), is that the player felt comfortable playing because the team cleared him medically? The perspective of the team is it was a "collaborative desicion.". Those are 2 pretty different narratives being told in interviews that have been done in the past day. You're just conveniently ignoring the narrative of the player because it doesn't fit with the point your trying to make. It's a team doing damage control vs a mother trying to look at why her son just suffered a career altering injury.

You're just reaching at this point, just admit a player telling an agent to request a trade is different than a player getting incorrect medical advice and playing through an injury. The proof that the medical advice was wrong is that he reinjured himself, how do you argue that? The doctors cleared him, he is now has an obviously related injury to the first one. Pretty black and white.

What proof is there that AD is making this desicion based off Rich Paul telling him he has to go to request a trade and go to LA? Some beat writer saying he's "not acting like himself"? That's pure conjecture. Saying KD playing resulting in injury because doctors incorrectly cleared him is black and white facts.


It doesn't really seem like you even know what you're arguing about at this point so I'm just going to leave it at that.

I don't know what went through either player's head because I wasn't there. At the end of the day both decisions are the players and the player's alone.

Lol and that's where your wrong. If bringing a player back from injury was a players desicion and a players along Klay would've played in game 3. If AD didn't give his stamp of approval Rich Paul wouldn't be making a trade request. Simple as that.

[Collymore]

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It sure sounds like a smart dude who is in full control of his life and understands the consequences of his decisions. This guy would probably be manipulated by his cat if he had one.

[Mr Loggins]

this is such as stupid take. 99.8% chance Rich Paul is doing what AD is paying him to do.

be an agent, try to get AD what he wants (NY or LA) and take the heat so AD doesn’t have to

[NatiboyB]

I am sure it's already been stated previously. But the agent works for Anthony Davis. What if he actually really just wants out of New Orleans and only wants to go to LA and isn't concerned with looking like a bad guy?

He won't lose anything and honestly if he lands in LA and they produce good things his popularity will increase either as a hero or a villain.

[dhsilv2]

The perspective of a player vs the perspective of the team. The perspective of the player (or his close family member who is in constant contact with him and only has his interests at heart), is that the player felt comfortable playing because the team cleared him medically? The perspective of the team is it was a "collaborative desicion.". Those are 2 pretty different narratives being told in interviews that have been done in the past day. You're just conveniently ignoring the narrative of the player because it doesn't fit with the point your trying to make. It's a team doing damage control vs a mother trying to look at why her son just suffered a career altering injury.

You're just reaching at this point, just admit a player telling an agent to request a trade is different than a player getting incorrect medical advice and playing through an injury. The proof that the medical advice was wrong is that he reinjured himself, how do you argue that? The doctors cleared him, he is now has an obviously related injury to the first one. Pretty black and white.

What proof is there that AD is making this desicion based off Rich Paul telling him he has to go to request a trade and go to LA? Some beat writer saying he's "not acting like himself"? That's pure conjecture. Saying KD playing resulting in injury because doctors incorrectly cleared him is black and white facts.


It doesn't really seem like you even know what you're arguing about at this point so I'm just going to leave it at that.

I don't know what went through either player's head because I wasn't there. At the end of the day both decisions are the players and the player's alone.

Lol and that's where your wrong. If bringing a player back from injury was a players desicion and a players along Klay would've played in game 3. If AD didn't give his stamp of approval Rich Paul wouldn't be making a trade request. Simple as that.

And the trade can't happen until the team does it. Seriously...the same thing!

[NBARocks]

You've gotta be the dumbest mfer on earth if you think an agent can manipulate their player when all a player has to do when they dislike an agent is to fire them.

[durka]

I don't know what went through either player's head because I wasn't there. At the end of the day both decisions are the players and the player's alone.

Lol and that's where your wrong. If bringing a player back from injury was a players desicion and a players along Klay would've played in game 3. If AD didn't give his stamp of approval Rich Paul wouldn't be making a trade request. Simple as that.

And the trade can't happen until the team does it. Seriously...the same thing!

This topic wasn't about whether the team traded him, it was about whether he was manipulated to request a trade by his agent. Just admit your wrong instead of bringing up points that have nothing to do with what we're talking about and ignoring evidence I'm giving to prove my valid points.

I honestly don't even know what you're arguing at this point. That the medical staff isn't at fault at all if a player comes back from injury and reinjured himself 12 minutes into a game? So that's all the players fault and not the doctors who treated him?

[LKN]

This thread is silly... but I am kind of disappointed that AD allows his agent to behave the way he does in public when representing him. There are plenty of agents who can accomplish the same things behind the scenes without the nonsense.

[dockingsched]

The fact people have this perception that Rich Paul is manipulating AD means that Rich Paul is doing one hell of a job shielding AD from any criticisms. Can’t ask for more from an agent, top notch work.

[dhsilv2]

Lol and that's where your wrong. If bringing a player back from injury was a players desicion and a players along Klay would've played in game 3. If AD didn't give his stamp of approval Rich Paul wouldn't be making a trade request. Simple as that.

And the trade can't happen until the team does it. Seriously...the same thing!

This topic wasn't about whether the team traded him, it was about whether he was manipulated to request a trade by his agent. Just admit your wrong instead of bringing up points that have nothing to do with what we're talking about and ignoring evidence I'm giving to prove my valid points.

I honestly don't even know what you're arguing at this point. That the medical staff isn't at fault at all if a player comes back from injury and reinjured himself 12 minutes into a game? So that's all the players fault and not the doctors who treated him?

You've not made a single point what so ever.

[durka]

And the trade can't happen until the team does it. Seriously...the same thing!

This topic wasn't about whether the team traded him, it was about whether he was manipulated to request a trade by his agent. Just admit your wrong instead of bringing up points that have nothing to do with what we're talking about and ignoring evidence I'm giving to prove my valid points.

I honestly don't even know what you're arguing at this point. That the medical staff isn't at fault at all if a player comes back from injury and reinjured himself 12 minutes into a game? So that's all the players fault and not the doctors who treated him?

You've not made a single point what so ever.

I've stated my stance multiple times, which is I have opinions on 2 situations that aren't the same. You're an absolute joke.

[Plutonashfan]

Come on guys, do you think that Anthony Davis is dumb?

Rich Paul works for A. Davis.

A. Davis wants to play for the Lakers (or Knicks) and Rich Paul is trying to achieve that. ASAP.

I think it both. Always thought AD was a dumb ass for his stupid brow look. There's nothing cool or hip about a unibrow

[dhsilv2]

This topic wasn't about whether the team traded him, it was about whether he was manipulated to request a trade by his agent. Just admit your wrong instead of bringing up points that have nothing to do with what we're talking about and ignoring evidence I'm giving to prove my valid points.

I honestly don't even know what you're arguing at this point. That the medical staff isn't at fault at all if a player comes back from injury and reinjured himself 12 minutes into a game? So that's all the players fault and not the doctors who treated him?

You've not made a single point what so ever.

I've stated my stance multiple times, which is I have opinions on 2 situations that aren't the same. You're an absolute joke.

Fine, KD was mind controlled by the doctors both his, 3rd party, and his own guys and he had no control over his ability to make an adult decision, but with Agents they never do anything unless explicitly told... I've also got some magic beans for sale.

[dhsilv2]

Come on guys, do you think that Anthony Davis is dumb?

Rich Paul works for A. Davis.

A. Davis wants to play for the Lakers (or Knicks) and Rich Paul is trying to achieve that. ASAP.

I think it both. Always thought AD was a dumb ass for his stupid brow look. There's nothing cool or hip about a unibrow

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