Is Jayson Tatum a franchise player?

[Zombiesonics]

Right now? No, he isn't, not by a long shot.
But he has the potential to becoming one down the road. About half of the best top 15 players now weren't franchise players at Tatum's age

Straightforward and 100% correct. there seem to be posters ITT who simply have a personal issue with Boston or Celtic fans. It’s indisputable Tatum is one of the best prospects for his age group, he is very young.

So no right now he's not a franchise player, will he be an mvp? I have no clue he just turned 21, but he’s shown the trajectory to reach an all nba level for sure.

[Heat4lyf]

Needs to improve his playmaking to keep the D honest if he plans on taking that next step and I think his handles along with his aggression could improve so he can drive inside more frequently, rather than just trying to create space for a mid range shot

[TerryTate]

Honestly this thread should be bumped around the New Year or AS Break.

I mean.... see how Tatum and a lesser extent Brown play with Kemba. See if Kyrie was truly one of the major problems in Boston.
Right now, all I see is celtics fan say Kyrie was a problem and division rivals nets fan... say it was the young guys fault. It'll all be revealed in a few months.

It'll kill some of the stupid arguments of Kyrie made Boston better. Personally, I don't know why Nets fans keep fapping to guy that hasn't proved anything outside of being Lebron's robin.

[VDT]

He doesnt have the athleticism and/ or passing vision to be a franchise player, at least if you want to contend. His ceiling is probably second best player on a contender but he really needs a lot of things to go right for him to get there.

[celtics543]

Even as a Celtics fan I don't see it. He doesn't have elite athleticism or strength. He's already really polished so it seems that his ceiling is a little lower but his floor is much higher than a lot of players his age. I really like him and think he can be a good player on a top team but if he's your best player then I just don't see it working out at a championship level.

[druggas]

Everyone has "potential" to be the best, most don't have the desire to get there.

[rzzzzz]

rated good but not great heading into the draft. looked pretty special his rookie season, with room to grow. looked good but not great last year. i think Celtics fans are correct to focus on who he's on the floor with. which gives him the potential for being an important component to a championship team. but probably not a franchise player.

[Triple7]

You guys were literally hyping up Tatum and Brown as the second coming before last season. Also while shouting Tatum is "only 13yrs old" on top of that.

What goes around comes around

What has gone around or came around? He had an average season, average playoffs, wasn't anything crazy, but was't bad either. Our entire team was a mess and obviously we saw it in the media as well, roles weren't defined enough(which is on Brad a bit), it was a bad(average) season for us last year. Both Brown and Jayson still have the chance to at the very least all-stars, it's up to them.

Im talking in regards to makign stupid threads. Celtics fans where washing the GB with threads like Tatum is the next Kobe, Jaylen brown is the Paul Pierce, if not better.

You dont have to explain to me just how Medciocre the the celtics were last year. And I already said in a post above that Tatum an Brown will most likely still be solid NBA players moving forward. But thats about it

Yup i agree. Just like siakam, who could be a solid nba player in the future!

[Triple7]

Is there ever a 21 year old franchise player? This thread is stupid!

True franchise players show the glimpse of it in yr 1. You look at Lebron in yr 1 and now Doncic in Yr 1 and can tell they will become special players right away. We have seen 2 full yrs of Tatum but I dont see franchise type player on a championship contending team.
IDC if hes 19,20 yrs old. If your in YR3, you better produce otherwise your showing no improvement like Wiggins.

Then the OP should have changed the topic to “ can jayson tatum be a franchise player?” because not even lebron is a franchise player at 21. Not doncic. I agree you could see the potential at year one or 2 for some, but they are not franchise players already at that age. This is just a stupid thread, because we all know, Tatum ain’t a franchise player yet. Nobody is at age 21.

[Yogatti]

He's ceiling is an all-star. He's not a franchise player

[ThumbsUpBaby]

Can he be a face of a franchise? Sure, just like any other stars. If you're asking whether he can lead a franchise to a championship as the best player, no. He's an elite 2nd option level player imo. Still good as a top 10 player at his peak, but I don't think he'll ever be a MVP type of player.

[stormi]

He's a melanin deprived Harrison Barnes at his best.

[robbie84]

Turned 21 years old in March.
Let's have this discussion when he's at least Donovan Mitchell's age. Mitchell is 23 years old today. We probably need to give Mitchell another year or two to come to any conclusions anyway.

[NinjaBro]

He's ceiling is an all-star. He's not a franchise player

He's 21. How do we know what his ceiling is?

[TheRealKaboom]

I legit don't remember any threads, tbh... maybe link them, but there aren't too many C's fans who start threads here, cause even if it was Jordan I doubt he'd get much praise if he was a Celtic and was being discussed on RealGM's GB.

Dude I remember them clear as day. Im sure others as well.

Besides, the point is that you guys massive overrated Tatum and Brown in their first years. There's no way you can deny that. A lot of people tried to warn you.

If you guys didnt overrate them that hard to begin with, I think they'd be getting treated a lot more fairly on here...which is being young players with a lot of potential who could potentially become All-Stars.

But here we are talking about whether or not he can be a "Franchise" player

Lol, it's hard not to overrate Tatum given the fantastic rookie season he had, and was even better during the playoffs. I mean, can you blame Celtics fans for hyping him? You're acting like we committed some crime here for suggesting he could be a superstar based on his incredible rookie year, when you guys would probably do the same. You're telling me if you had a rookie like that, you'd just be "Eh, this is probably his high point, it'll all be downhill from here!" Get outta here

He averaged 14/5/1 his rookie year. How was that fantastic and incredible?

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[Cavsfansince84]

Can he be a face of a franchise? Sure, just like any other stars. If you're asking whether he can lead a franchise to a championship as the best player, no. He's an elite 2nd option level player imo. Still good as a top 10 player at his peak, but I don't think he'll ever be a MVP type of player.

I don't think franchise player even means that level of player. imo what it means is a guy worth building around and who can lead teams to 50+ wins on a somewhat consistent basis if you surround them with pretty good players. Much like Pierce was with Boston. Some might argue he was the best player or leader on the 08 title team but I think its more fair to say he was a very good player who could step up and hit big shots sometimes and usually a top 10-15 player.

[kenwood3333]

is he? no
will he? quite possible

[lakerz12]

Maybe a Charlotte Bobcats type franchise.

[lalalaker]

he seems to be getting the same hype as andrew wiggins a good player who just dont have that charisma like the normal franchise player like davis, lebron, khawi, curry etc. very good player but too quite no swag. there are quite franchise player like tim duncan so status wise that would be the type if he were to become one. he isnt one of those players that makes ppl feel oh $hit he has the ball. but hey hes still young in nba so plenty of time to see how he turns out.

[Ill News]

I think the problem with Tatum is he doesn't possess something that defines a franchise player. True franchise players are those that you build a team identity or system around because they have this transcendent skill/quality, like LeBron's otherwordly athleticism augmented by his godly BBIQ, Giannis' freakish physical attributes, Jokic's remarkable passing (almost Bird-like), and Durant's remarkable scoring instinct (on a 7-ft, guard-like body no less).

Tatum's calling card to being a franchise player could be his polished offensive game and efficiency as a scorer, similar to Dirk. However, Dirk was a 7-footer. Furthermore, Tatum hasn't been given the complete freedom to show off as a #1 option yet; he's been playing on some talent-rich teams that prevent him from being the #1 scoring option, like with the Kyrie Celtics and Team USA.

It's still too early to tell, though. Paul George and Jimmy Butler didn't break out until their third and fourth seasons, and Oladipo took quite a while as well. Right now, I think his ceiling is as an elite second option ala Paul Pierce during the Big 3 days, for the sole reason that he's not a freak specimen and athlete at his position, which most franchise players today are.