Chinese Basketball Association announce that they will cut off all cooperation with the Houston Rockets

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Re: Chinese Basketball Association announce that they will cut off all cooperation with the Houston Rockets 

Post#101 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Oct 6, 2019 8:24 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:Silver and the league aren't going to do anything. They're going to stay quiet and let this go by, people will forget about it within a week. Then you bet your ass that Silver will talk with China and probably promise a few more games over there to smooth things over and probably will send a private memo to the teams saying this kind of talk is off limits. No way in hell will the NBA shut off China.

Add on: Also to be fair the NBA wont stand up to China, just like the vast majority of people who are crapping on the NBA for not standing up to China will continue to watch and support the NBA by watching it. We are all hypocrites to a certain extent.


not to worry, NBA has already proven how woke it is with the Charlotte bathroom nonsense, they'll go play NBA games in China 20 miles from where they are committing mass genocide no problem.


Yup. Again as the NBA was talking about how they wont have the all star game in Charlotte because of the trans bathroom issue, they were in talks with Dubai to schedule future games there where you can go to prison for 10 years for being homosexual. The NBA is a business and all of their PR moves are just that, PR moves.

Calling out Charlotte didnt hit their pockets at all, but they also build up a ton of good will with the public because look at how woke they are fighting the good fight. Expanding to Dubai can be a great way to break into that area's market. They wont bring up the human rights issues there and know Dubai Human rights wont trend on Twitter so its no harm to them. Just like they know this issue with them and China will be forgotten in a week by the public and Silver will do all he can to repair the relationship behind close doors and nobody will bat an eye when the NBA is playing in China next.
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Post#102 » by Swish1906 » Sun Oct 6, 2019 8:25 pm

druggas wrote:Typical bullying from China.

Boycot all Chinese products.


Okay you start with throwing ur cell, computer and TV in the trash without buying new ones
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Re: Chinese Basketball Association announce that they will cut off all cooperation with the Houston Rockets 

Post#103 » by NBAFan93 » Sun Oct 6, 2019 8:44 pm

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bisme37 wrote:This sums up the dilemma pretty well...

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Option could be the league asks Morey to step down from his position and will ask another team to sign him. Morey is to connected in the league to really be blackballed so it just takes the right owner to pick him up. Would draw attention and controversy but Houston with a new GM can rebuild its connection to China if that’s what they really want to do.


It’s not like Harden or Westbrook can do anything they are locked in on lengthy contracts.


Yeah, but wouldn’t China just ban that team that Morey went to? If they are mad at Morey, wouldn’t that follow him?
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Post#104 » by NBAFan93 » Sun Oct 6, 2019 8:49 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Silver and the league aren't going to do anything. They're going to stay quiet and let this go by, people will forget about it within a week. Then you bet your ass that Silver will talk with China and probably promise a few more games over there to smooth things over and probably will send a private memo to the teams saying this kind of talk is off limits. No way in hell will the NBA shut off China.

Add on: Also to be fair the NBA wont stand up to China, just like the vast majority of people who are crapping on the NBA for not standing up to China will continue to watch and support the NBA by watching it. We are all hypocrites to a certain extent.


not to worry, NBA has already proven how woke it is with the Charlotte bathroom nonsense, they'll go play NBA games in China 20 miles from where they are committing mass genocide no problem.


Yup. Again as the NBA was talking about how they wont have the all star game in Charlotte because of the trans bathroom issue, they were in talks with Dubai to schedule future games there where you can go to prison for 10 years for being homosexual. The NBA is a business and all of their PR moves are just that, PR moves.

Calling out Charlotte didnt hit their pockets at all, but they also build up a ton of good will with the public because look at how woke they are fighting the good fight. Expanding to Dubai can be a great way to break into that area's market. They wont bring up the human rights issues there and know Dubai Human rights wont trend on Twitter so its no harm to them. Just like they know this issue with them and China will be forgotten in a week by the public and Silver will do all he can to repair the relationship behind close doors and nobody will bat an eye when the NBA is playing in China next.


Good points. Similar to them banning ninja headbands and blocking the Nene deal, but then they look the other way when superstars like LeBron, AD, PG and Kawhi force and collude themselves to big markets and create superteams. The first things cost them nothing and don’t matter, the others make a big difference and in theory will help their bottom line so they let it go.
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Post#105 » by Showdown » Sun Oct 6, 2019 8:50 pm

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GoCeltics123 wrote:Throwing your GM publicly under the bus, when you could've just told him privately to delete the tweet, means you suck as an owner.

That's a Dolan move

China got ahold of Morey's tweet almost immediately. Deleting it wouldn't have made a difference. The Houston Rockets are now enemy #1 for the entire country.


Enemy #1 for the communist authoritarian government. Not the working Chinese people. Most of them would rather have NBA basketball to unwind to in the evening.


This is more nationalism than communist issue so i doubt that working people in China support Hong Kong protests which means that number of people that are against Morrey is much bigger than you think.
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Post#106 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Oct 6, 2019 8:57 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
not to worry, NBA has already proven how woke it is with the Charlotte bathroom nonsense, they'll go play NBA games in China 20 miles from where they are committing mass genocide no problem.


Yup. Again as the NBA was talking about how they wont have the all star game in Charlotte because of the trans bathroom issue, they were in talks with Dubai to schedule future games there where you can go to prison for 10 years for being homosexual. The NBA is a business and all of their PR moves are just that, PR moves.

Calling out Charlotte didnt hit their pockets at all, but they also build up a ton of good will with the public because look at how woke they are fighting the good fight. Expanding to Dubai can be a great way to break into that area's market. They wont bring up the human rights issues there and know Dubai Human rights wont trend on Twitter so its no harm to them. Just like they know this issue with them and China will be forgotten in a week by the public and Silver will do all he can to repair the relationship behind close doors and nobody will bat an eye when the NBA is playing in China next.


Good points. Similar to them banning ninja headbands and blocking the Nene deal, but then they look the other way when superstars like LeBron, AD, PG and Kawhi force and collude themselves to big markets and create superteams. The first things cost them nothing and don’t matter, the others make a big difference and in theory will help their bottom line so they let it go.


The NBA is a business, all the moves they make go through the cost benefit analysis. Now I thought the hypocrisy of the Charolette all star ban while then trying to get games in Dubai was so blatant that I thought they would get some backlash for, but that didnt happen.

So Im not really shocked that the NBA does business with China and again wont be shocked if Silver does whatever he can behind close doors to smooth this all over with them. The thing I do chuckle at though is people who do think the NBA is more socially aware than say like the NFL. The NFL has a much bigger and diverse fanbase in the US, so they have to lock down a lot of things because of their bigger fanbase. While the NBA fanbase is probably much more progressive and much easier to please their fanbase with certain social issues.

Both are exactly the same though, all their decisions they make have one thing in common, will this make us money or lose us money. Its as simple as that.
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Post#107 » by Frank Dux » Sun Oct 6, 2019 9:06 pm

**** China, all the stupid shills defending that horrific regime. The Hong Kong situation sadly isn't even the worst thing currently going on over there. Xi is in the middle of a genocide, trying to wipe out the Uyghur minority, and selling their organs in the process.
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Post#108 » by OkcSinceSGA » Sun Oct 6, 2019 9:12 pm

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Post#109 » by TMU » Sun Oct 6, 2019 9:17 pm

I will stop watching NBA all together if they issue a fine or penalize Daryl Morey for this. What's happening in Hong Kong is absolutely ridiculous, but the NBA intervening would be even more absurd. And we all know that Fertitta is a tool and cares only about money.
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Post#110 » by dc » Sun Oct 6, 2019 9:17 pm

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Post#111 » by DreamTeam09 » Sun Oct 6, 2019 9:19 pm

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DreamTeam09 wrote:I'm always on the side of the people. Therefore I'm siding with Morey, and I believe the NBA should as well. Not all money is good money, you need to have morals & a backbone.


*checks cash*

Nope they're all good money brah.


Fundamental difference between the two of us I guess.
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Post#112 » by letsgorockets » Sun Oct 6, 2019 9:29 pm

Basketball is fun, but freedom of speech is essential. If Daryl Morey said something that offensive about race, religion, gender, sexuality, etc, I'd understand his job being under threat. All he did was show support for a small minority struggling for freedom against a violent, repressive regime. If he's fired over this than **** the NBA, **** the Houston Rockets, and especially that gutless, greedy little worm, Tillman Fertitta. Adam Silver should give them the ultimatum that they cooperate with ALL NBA teams, or get rights to air none. I know he won't because money talks, and this probably ends with Morey unemployed. Just like Hollywood, the NBA will bend over for that Chinese cash, and it'll be another disgusting concession to the cruel **** who run that hellhole.

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Post#113 » by clyde21 » Sun Oct 6, 2019 9:41 pm

Frank Dux wrote:**** China, all the stupid shills defending that horrific regime. The Hong Kong situation sadly isn't even the worst thing currently going on over there. Xi is in the middle of a genocide, trying to wipe out the Uyghur minority, and selling their organs in the process.


i mean, the bigger problem here is that you won't hear about it AT ALL on mainstream media, that group doesn't qualify to actually be covered I guess (and we know why).
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Post#114 » by NBAFan93 » Sun Oct 6, 2019 9:45 pm

letsgorockets wrote:Basketball is fun, but freedom of speech is essential. If Daryl Morey said something that offensive about race, religion, gender, sexuality, etc, I'd understand his job being under threat. All he did was show support for a small minority struggling for freedom against a violent, repressive regime. If he's fired over this than **** the NBA, **** the Houston Rockets, and especially that gutless, greedy little worm, Tillman Fertitta. Adam Silver should give them the ultimatum that they cooperate with ALL NBA teams, or get rights to air none. I know he won't because money talks, and this probably ends with Morey unemployed. Just like Hollywood, the NBA will bend over for that Chinese cash, and it'll be another disgusting concession to the cruel **** who run that hellhole.

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That would take a huge amount of guts and I would be very impressed if Silver did that.
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Post#115 » by Jim Naismith » Sun Oct 6, 2019 9:51 pm

letsgorockets wrote:If Daryl Morey said something that offensive about race, religion, gender, sexuality, etc, I'd understand his job being under threat.


Those are the politically sensitive categories in America.

Hong Kong is politically sensitive in China.

The NBA is a global game.
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Post#116 » by letsgorockets » Sun Oct 6, 2019 9:52 pm

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letsgorockets wrote:Basketball is fun, but freedom of speech is essential. If Daryl Morey said something that offensive about race, religion, gender, sexuality, etc, I'd understand his job being under threat. All he did was show support for a small minority struggling for freedom against a violent, repressive regime. If he's fired over this than **** the NBA, **** the Houston Rockets, and especially that gutless, greedy little worm, Tillman Fertitta. Adam Silver should give them the ultimatum that they cooperate with ALL NBA teams, or get rights to air none. I know he won't because money talks, and this probably ends with Morey unemployed. Just like Hollywood, the NBA will bend over for that Chinese cash, and it'll be another disgusting concession to the cruel **** who run that hellhole.

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That would take a huge amount of guts and I would be very impressed if Silver did that.
It would be a signature moment for his career, but we both know he won't. I just hope everyone realizes that as soon as Houston fires Morey, the die is cast. They will use that same tactic over and over again the shape the NBA to their liking. Steph Curry said something supportive about Taiwan in a totally harmless way? Too bad, suspend and fine him or no more Warriors games in China. Giannis models a clothing line that has ties to a proudly Hong Kong clothing company? We don't care it's the ECF, suspend him now or now more Bucks games in China. That's how this works, you break one time and you prove you can be broken everytime. Don't believe me? Google the impact of China's cultural rules on movies and television, and how it impacts every film and show America makes now.

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Post#117 » by Jim Naismith » Sun Oct 6, 2019 9:54 pm

letsgorockets wrote:
NBAFan93 wrote:
letsgorockets wrote:Basketball is fun, but freedom of speech is essential. If Daryl Morey said something that offensive about race, religion, gender, sexuality, etc, I'd understand his job being under threat. All he did was show support for a small minority struggling for freedom against a violent, repressive regime. If he's fired over this than **** the NBA, **** the Houston Rockets, and especially that gutless, greedy little worm, Tillman Fertitta. Adam Silver should give them the ultimatum that they cooperate with ALL NBA teams, or get rights to air none. I know he won't because money talks, and this probably ends with Morey unemployed. Just like Hollywood, the NBA will bend over for that Chinese cash, and it'll be another disgusting concession to the cruel **** who run that hellhole.

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That would take a huge amount of guts and I would be very impressed if Silver did that.
It would be a signature moment for his career, but we both know he won't. I just hope everyone realizes that as soon as Houston fires Morey, the die is cast. They will use that same tactic over and over again the shape the NBA to their liking. Steph Curry said something supportive about Taiwan in a totally harmless way? Too bad, suspend and fine him or no more Warriors games in China. Giannis models a clothing line that has ties to a proudly Hong Kong clothing company? We don't care it's the ECF, suspend him now or now more Bucks games in China. That's how this works, you break one time and you prove you can be broken everytime. Don't believe me? Google the impact of China's cultural rules on movies and television, and how it impacts every film and show America makes now.

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No, the die was cast when Donald Sterling was forced to sell his team for what he said in a private conversation.
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Post#118 » by MrGoat » Sun Oct 6, 2019 10:00 pm

NBAFan93 wrote:
letsgorockets wrote:Basketball is fun, but freedom of speech is essential. If Daryl Morey said something that offensive about race, religion, gender, sexuality, etc, I'd understand his job being under threat. All he did was show support for a small minority struggling for freedom against a violent, repressive regime. If he's fired over this than **** the NBA, **** the Houston Rockets, and especially that gutless, greedy little worm, Tillman Fertitta. Adam Silver should give them the ultimatum that they cooperate with ALL NBA teams, or get rights to air none. I know he won't because money talks, and this probably ends with Morey unemployed. Just like Hollywood, the NBA will bend over for that Chinese cash, and it'll be another disgusting concession to the cruel **** who run that hellhole.

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That would take a huge amount of guts and I would be very impressed if Silver did that.


I would be very impressed if Silver's announcement the other day about the NBA wanting to move hard to expand into India is then used as a way to make up their losses in China and tell them to kick rocks, but you just know they'd be passing up on too much money for that to actually be the case.
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Post#119 » by letsgorockets » Sun Oct 6, 2019 10:00 pm

Jim Naismith wrote:
letsgorockets wrote:If Daryl Morey said something that offensive about race, religion, gender, sexuality, etc, I'd understand his job being under threat.


Those are the politically sensitive categories in America.

Hong Kong is politically sensitive in China.

The NBA is a global game.
You're right, but lots of other places have regionally sensitive beliefs we don't conform to. Should NBA players and front office staff face penalties for speaking in defense of same sex marriage? Cause I'm pretty sure that's not popular in alot the Middle East/Africa. If a player or front office member publicly supports NATO, pretty sure that's not popular in Russia or many former Soviet block countries. Should that person face punishment? The NBA has a global reach, but it's a sport born and based in America, and it should be flavored by American sensibilities. Feel free to disagree, just remember the stance you took when someone on the team you root for says something mildly offensive to some fat flung dictatorship, and that dictatorship makes the team you root for, and league you support, it's bitch.

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Post#120 » by Jim Naismith » Sun Oct 6, 2019 10:06 pm

letsgorockets wrote:
Jim Naismith wrote:
letsgorockets wrote:If Daryl Morey said something that offensive about race, religion, gender, sexuality, etc, I'd understand his job being under threat.


Those are the politically sensitive categories in America.

Hong Kong is politically sensitive in China.

The NBA is a global game.
You're right, but lots of other places have reasonably sensitive beliefs we don't conform to. Should NBA players and front office staff face penalties for speaking in defense of same sex marriage? Cause I'm pretty sure that's not popular in alot the Middle East/Africa. If a player or front office member publicly supports NATO, pretty sure that's not popular in Russia or many former Soviet block countries. Should that person face punishment? The NBA has a global reach, but it's a sport born and based in America, and it should be flavored by American sensibilities. Feel free to disagree, just remember the stance you took when someone on the team you root for says something mildly offensive to some fat flung dictatorship, and that dictatorship makes the team you root for, and league you support, it's bitch.

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If the NBA want to cultivate foreign fanbases, then it has to cater to foreign sensibilities.

By the way, many Chinese view Hong Kong independence similarly to how Americans view Confederate secession.

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