Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba

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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#101 » by Hobo4President » Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:40 pm

Holy **** settle down. We have no idea how his play will transfer to the post season.
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#102 » by Baski » Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:52 pm

Yuri36 wrote:
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Lol what?? :lol:
What the hell does he do better apart provoking fouls and free throws?
Passing? Not even in the same class as Luka and Luka does it with weaker teammates than Harden.
Scoring? Doncic does it already more efficiently, stats prove it.
Renounding? Again, not even in the same class as Doncic

So for someone who likes Doncic, you surely have a strange way to show it....

You think calling James Harden a better player than Luka Doncic is supposed to be some sort of insult?


Learn to read, man.
It's one thing to say Harden is a better player than Doncic (albeit it's definitely debatable basing on this season so far) but it's quite another to say that EVERYTHING Luka does, Harden does it better.
That's what I was precisely answering but again, if you don't know how to read, I cant do anything for you

Ignoring your rude response, I'll rephrase the question:
You think calling Harden a better scorer, playmaker and rebounder than Doncic as some kind of insult?
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#103 » by asdfgh » Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:57 pm

GOATTatum wrote:Doncic is a stat padder on a bad team. Put him on the Celtics and he's a less athletic Jaylen Brown with terrible defense.


The Mavs are a better team than the Celtics and it's all because of Luka. The Celtics become championship contenders with Luka.
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#104 » by Johnny Firpo » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:40 am

Baski wrote:
Yuri36 wrote:
Baski wrote:You think calling James Harden a better player than Luka Doncic is supposed to be some sort of insult?


Learn to read, man.
It's one thing to say Harden is a better player than Doncic (albeit it's definitely debatable basing on this season so far) but it's quite another to say that EVERYTHING Luka does, Harden does it better.
That's what I was precisely answering but again, if you don't know how to read, I cant do anything for you

Ignoring your rude response, I'll rephrase the question:
You think calling Harden a better scorer, playmaker and rebounder than Doncic as some kind of insult?


Better rebounder? What?
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#105 » by Yuri36 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:08 am

Baski wrote:
Yuri36 wrote:
Baski wrote:You think calling James Harden a better player than Luka Doncic is supposed to be some sort of insult?


Learn to read, man.
It's one thing to say Harden is a better player than Doncic (albeit it's definitely debatable basing on this season so far) but it's quite another to say that EVERYTHING Luka does, Harden does it better.
That's what I was precisely answering but again, if you don't know how to read, I cant do anything for you

Ignoring your rude response, I'll rephrase the question:
You think calling Harden a better scorer, playmaker and rebounder than Doncic as some kind of insult?


Calling harden a better playmaker and rebounder is almost an insult to Luka, yes.
Any problem with that?
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#106 » by User_friendly » Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:44 am

Yuri36 wrote:
Baski wrote:
Yuri36 wrote:
Learn to read, man.
It's one thing to say Harden is a better player than Doncic (albeit it's definitely debatable basing on this season so far) but it's quite another to say that EVERYTHING Luka does, Harden does it better.
That's what I was precisely answering but again, if you don't know how to read, I cant do anything for you

Ignoring your rude response, I'll rephrase the question:
You think calling Harden a better scorer, playmaker and rebounder than Doncic as some kind of insult?


Calling harden a better playmaker and rebounder is almost an insult to Luka, yes.
Any problem with that?


To take things out of the personal, it seems an insult to the truth.
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#107 » by SecondTake » Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:53 am

Baski wrote:
Yuri36 wrote:
Baski wrote:You think calling James Harden a better player than Luka Doncic is supposed to be some sort of insult?


Learn to read, man.
It's one thing to say Harden is a better player than Doncic (albeit it's definitely debatable basing on this season so far) but it's quite another to say that EVERYTHING Luka does, Harden does it better.
That's what I was precisely answering but again, if you don't know how to read, I cant do anything for you

Ignoring your rude response, I'll rephrase the question:
You think calling Harden a better scorer, playmaker and rebounder than Doncic as some kind of insult?


Since when is Harden a better rebounder? Playmaker is debatable, rebounding is not..
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#108 » by Ascrilas » Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:55 am

It's definitely close, but he is 1st in PER, WS/48 and BPM/VORP as of now, so...in theory, it is simply unimaginable for a 20-yr old to sustain these numbers and average 30/10/10 on 63 TS%, but even if his play only declined by a bit, he would definitely be in contention.

PER is kind of a bull stat, but Doncic is actually having the highest single-season PER of all-time by a pretty significant margin right now.
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#109 » by nedleeds » Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:58 am

He's top 5. He might give Giannis a run in a redraft the league scenario because he's only 20.
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#110 » by Yuri36 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:10 am

User_friendly wrote:
Yuri36 wrote:
Baski wrote:Ignoring your rude response, I'll rephrase the question:
You think calling Harden a better scorer, playmaker and rebounder than Doncic as some kind of insult?


Calling harden a better playmaker and rebounder is almost an insult to Luka, yes.
Any problem with that?


To take things out of the personal, it seems an insult to the truth.


To YOUR truth, you forgot to mention :wink:
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#111 » by TheBonzaiEffect » Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:20 am

GOATTatum wrote:Doncic is a stat padder on a bad team. Put him on the Celtics and he's a less athletic Jaylen Brown with terrible defense.


Can't we ban people for trolling?
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#112 » by Coach Carter » Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:47 am

No he's the 2nd best offensive player after harden. He's a bad defender which ruins his case for best player. Bron (for the most part), giannis, kawhi get it done at both ends. That's twice the energy spent, as opposed to luka or harden who conserve their energy on d.
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#113 » by TheBonzaiEffect » Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:03 am

Coach Carter wrote:No he's the 2nd best offensive player after harden. He's a bad defender which ruins his case for best player. Bron (for the most part), giannis, kawhi get it done at both ends. That's twice the energy spent, as opposed to luka or harden who conserve their energy on d.


1. On what metric is Harden better on O than Luka? Luka has a better eFG%, same TS%, better OBPM, better ORtg, and his team is the number one ranked offense.

2. Luka isn't a "bad" defender. He has a 105 DRtg, 2.3 DBPM. Harden, for example, is at 108 DRtg and -.7 DBPM...
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#114 » by PhilBlackson » Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:09 am

But does anyone think he can improve from his rookie season?!
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#115 » by Pennebaker » Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:31 am

nurseryc wrote:29.9 ppg, 10.4rpg, 9.7 assists Per game and the Mavs being the surprise team sitting 5th in the Western conference with a relatively crappy roster outside of Doncic and Porzingis! This kid is extraterrestrial


Luka is an absolute mythic beast, no doubt, but there's more to being the best in the game than averages.
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#116 » by LakersSoul » Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:34 am

nurseryc wrote:29.9 ppg, 10.4rpg, 9.7 assists Per game and the Mavs being the surprise team sitting 5th in the Western conference with a relatively crappy roster outside of Doncic and Porzingis! This kid is extraterrestrial


On pace but way too early young buck.

How about letting Luka do this for 2-3 years and getting into the playoffs and winning at least their division or conference before anointing him the GOAT.

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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#117 » by Baski » Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:34 am

Johnny Firpo wrote:
Baski wrote:
Yuri36 wrote:
Learn to read, man.
It's one thing to say Harden is a better player than Doncic (albeit it's definitely debatable basing on this season so far) but it's quite another to say that EVERYTHING Luka does, Harden does it better.
That's what I was precisely answering but again, if you don't know how to read, I cant do anything for you

Ignoring your rude response, I'll rephrase the question:
You think calling Harden a better scorer, playmaker and rebounder than Doncic as some kind of insult?


Better rebounder? What?

I don't think Harden is a better rebounder, but I couldn't leave it out for the sake of transparency. Not gonna die on that hill
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#118 » by Baski » Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:37 am

Yuri36 wrote:
Baski wrote:
Yuri36 wrote:
Learn to read, man.
It's one thing to say Harden is a better player than Doncic (albeit it's definitely debatable basing on this season so far) but it's quite another to say that EVERYTHING Luka does, Harden does it better.
That's what I was precisely answering but again, if you don't know how to read, I cant do anything for you

Ignoring your rude response, I'll rephrase the question:
You think calling Harden a better scorer, playmaker and rebounder than Doncic as some kind of insult?


Calling harden a better playmaker and rebounder is almost an insult to Luka, yes.
Any problem with that?

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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#119 » by Baski » Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:42 am

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Baski wrote:
Yuri36 wrote:
Learn to read, man.
It's one thing to say Harden is a better player than Doncic (albeit it's definitely debatable basing on this season so far) but it's quite another to say that EVERYTHING Luka does, Harden does it better.
That's what I was precisely answering but again, if you don't know how to read, I cant do anything for you

Ignoring your rude response, I'll rephrase the question:
You think calling Harden a better scorer, playmaker and rebounder than Doncic as some kind of insult?


Since when is Harden a better rebounder? Playmaker is debatable, rebounding is not..

I mean I could reverse the same question in regards to scoring and playmaking, but the double standard here is hilarious. Noone bats an eye that Luka is being called better in those two, but you mention rebounding and who it's blasphemy. I'm not even gonna waste my time. Enjoy your 3peats or whatever you're projecting this kid to achieve.
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Re: Luka Doncic is the best player in the nba 

Post#120 » by ItsMyPotPie » Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:47 am

Is defense no longer a part of NBA? Is it now the No-Defense Basketball Association?

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