Mikal Bridges says LeBron would get 90 a game against 86' Celtics (Burning Bridges ?)

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Re: Mikal Bridges says LeBron would get 90 a game against 86' Celtics 

Post#101 » by Wilber85 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:47 pm

The Rodzilla wrote:why do people act like LeBron is not a freight train and wont get through McHale just like people walk through turnstile gates?

btw Jordan scored 19pts against them in the next game and I guarantee that wouldn't ever happen to LeBron, he would be an automatic 30 and 10 assists


If Lebron is a freight train, why do 180-200 lb players that barely touch him , hurt him?
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Post#102 » by Tracymcgoaty » Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:50 pm

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The Rodzilla wrote:why do people act like LeBron is not a freight train and wont get through McHale just like people walk through turnstile gates?

btw Jordan scored 19pts against them in the next game and I guarantee that wouldn't ever happen to LeBron, he would be an automatic 30 and 10 assists


If Lebron is a freight train, why do 180-200 lb players that barely touch him , hurt him?


Because he occasionally flops..Now what?
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Re: Mikal Bridges says LeBron would get 90 a game against 86' Celtics 

Post#103 » by The Rodzilla » Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:51 pm

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The Rodzilla wrote:why do people act like LeBron is not a freight train and wont get through McHale just like people walk through turnstile gates?

btw Jordan scored 19pts against them in the next game and I guarantee that wouldn't ever happen to LeBron, he would be an automatic 30 and 10 assists


If Lebron is a freight train, why do 180-200 lb players that barely touch him , hurt him?


objection! assumes facts not in evidence

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Re: Mikal Bridges says LeBron would get 90 a game against 86' Celtics 

Post#104 » by og15 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:53 pm

The Rodzilla wrote:why do people act like LeBron is not a freight train and wont get through McHale just like people walk through turnstile gates?

btw Jordan scored 19pts against them in the next game and I guarantee that wouldn't ever happen to LeBron, he would be an automatic 30 and 10 assists

You guarantee that something that has already happened to young LeBron would never happen to him? 22 year old LeBron was not an automatic 30/10 against any defense in the post-season.

In the 2007 playoffs, the Cavs lost game 1 vs the 41-41 Nets ranked 15th in Ortg, he had 18 points. Heck, after he dropped 48 on the Pistons, he had 20 pts on 3/11 FG, and he had previously had 10 and 19 in game 1 and 2. They won the game, but that's because his team was better than what Jordan had in 86 and the opponent was much inferior than the Celtics.

The Celtics were 1st in Drtg in 85-86, they gave up 102.6 pts/100. The 06-07 Pistons were 7th in Drtg and gave up 104.2 pts/100.

Lebron is a great player, but Jordan is a superior individual scorer and certainly was more so when both were younger. LeBron's jumpshooting was very inconsistent and he didn't trust it, that was even true with him part of the way into his prime let alone at 22. Jordan vs Boston that season is more comparable to LeBron vs the Spurs in the finals if we're actually talking about the level of the team and their level of defense.

The Celtics had Parish and Walton in the middle, they would probably put someone like DJ on him, but even McHale would be fine, because against 22 year old LeBron you're playing off him, you know the help will be there and you're making him a shooter. He's not going to be efficient shooting a lot of jumpshots, his jumpshot was pretty unreliable then, it could get hot, but it was not consistent, and Jordan was a far superior shooter at that age.

How is that any less difficult than having 35 year old Bowen guarding him with Duncan, Oberto and Elson behind? It isn't, the Celtics had elite rim protection and their primary perimeter defender was not on his last legs and could keep him from the basket with so much help focused on him.

Lebron was not a dynamic scorer at that stage, Jordan was much more so. He would almost certainly have a more difficult time against the Celtics than Jordan at that age with that level of a supporting cast.

None of that is a dig against LeBron, it's simply a reality of comparing both players at that stage in their careers and understanding their skillset.
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Re: Mikal Bridges says LeBron would get 90 a game against 86' Celtics 

Post#105 » by The Rodzilla » Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:57 pm

og15 wrote:
The Rodzilla wrote:why do people act like LeBron is not a freight train and wont get through McHale just like people walk through turnstile gates?

btw Jordan scored 19pts against them in the next game and I guarantee that wouldn't ever happen to LeBron, he would be an automatic 30 and 10 assists

You guarantee that something that has already happened to young LeBron would never happen to him? 22 year old LeBron was not an automatic 30/10 against any defense in the post-season.

In the 2007 playoffs, the Cavs lost game 1 vs the 41-41 Nets ranked 15th in Ortg, he had 18 points. Heck, after he dropped 48 on the Pistons, he had 20 pts on 3/11 FG. They win the game, but that's because his team was better than what Jordan had in 86 and the opponent was much inferior.

The Celtics were 1st in Drtg in 85-86, they gave up 102.6 pts/100. The 06-07 Pistons were 7th in Drtg and gave up 104.2 pts/100.

Lebron is a great player, but Jordan is a superior individual scorer and certainly was more so when both were younger. LeBron's jumpshooting was very inconsistent and he didn't trust it, that was even true with him part of the way into his prime let alone at 22. Jordan vs Boston that season is more comparable to LeBron vs the Spurs in the finals if we're actually talking about the level of the team and their level of defense.

The Celtics had Parish and Walton in the middle, they would probably put someone like DJ on him, but even McHale would be fine, because against 22 year old LeBron you're playing off him, you know the help will be there and you're making him a shooter. He was not a dynamic scorer at that stage, Jordan was much more so. He would almost certainly have a more difficult time against the Celtics than Jordan at that age with that level of a supporting cast.

None of that is a dig against LeBron, it's simply a reality of comparing both players at that stage in their careers and understanding their skillset.


I guaranteed that it would never happen to LeBron playing against the 86 Celtics

all you need to do is clear everyone out and he will go to work, its not going to look as cute as jordan but its going to look like a guy a generation ahead of everyone else
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Re: Mikal Bridges says LeBron would get 90 a game against 86' Celtics 

Post#106 » by NCHeels2008 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:01 pm

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Chanel Bomber wrote:First of all, Mikal Bridges may not be able to play basketball as a professional today if it weren't for the 80s players - including the 86 Celtics - carrying the NBA, elevating the overall skill level and heavily contributing to making the game what it is now.

Second, have some respect for your predecessors. You haven't made the playoffs yet. You're a scrub at the NBA until further notice. Those guys have jewelry. Be quiet.

Third, I can't help but think he feels empowered to say that because of the whiteness of the Celtics. Again, STFU. Bird would smoke you and walk over the ashes without even noticing.

Fourth, the game doesn't work like that. There's a reason no one's even come close to average 50 since Wilt. Teams double. Triple. Whatever. They adjust. Again, maybe that's why your career hasn't taken off.

Fifth, LeBron is not on Jordan's level. We know the deal. Saying that LBJ is the greatest makes your story more relevant because you can then say you played against the greatest, thus elevating your own story. No. Jordan was always the favorite. There's a reason LeBron has been the underdog so often and that's because he wasn't great enough to consistently elevate his team above the rest of the competition despite having more than sufficient help since his first departure from Cleveland.

People - including LeBron who's classlessly feeding this - are distorting reality to create a false narrative and it's honestly a little annoying after a while.


I think I agree with all this except the race angle. I just don't know enough about this Bridges guy to make that leap. I'd say he's displaying garden variety lack of perspective more than anything.

And I don't care about the Jordan v Lebron stuff, but I do think you make a really good point in saying these guys are displaying recency bias. Like, of course, the guy I guarded was better. Makes themselves seem more relevant.

They are indeed distorting reality to feed their own egos.


I say this as a white person, I think being too young to watch a good team of (mostly) white Americans and watching a bunch of big white stiffs in the 90's makes me perpetually underrate white American players. Maybe if I was old enough to experience the Celtics of the 80's I wouldn't expect every white American hooper to be a bust. But I mean looks at the 00's we got Adam Morrison and Jimmer Fredette as great white hypes that failed. Kevin Love outperformed my expectations, JJ Redick quietly carved out a pretty good career after a rough start, but I feel more often than not let down.
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Post#107 » by arh1109 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:05 pm

Well that was mildly racist. Doesn't he play on the whitest team currently also(who btw are almost all European)?
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Re: Mikal Bridges says LeBron would get 90 a game against 86' Celtics 

Post#108 » by RaptorPride » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:06 pm

Wilber85 wrote:
The Rodzilla wrote:why do people act like LeBron is not a freight train and wont get through McHale just like people walk through turnstile gates?

btw Jordan scored 19pts against them in the next game and I guarantee that wouldn't ever happen to LeBron, he would be an automatic 30 and 10 assists


If Lebron is a freight train, why do 180-200 lb players that barely touch him , hurt him?

Because that's the game now. If LeBron really wanted to play hard he would foul out every game. Literally every player has to flop now and if Jordan was playing in this era he would do the same.
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Re: Mikal Bridges says LeBron would get 90 a game against 86' Celtics 

Post#109 » by Wilber85 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:10 pm

Tracymcgoaty wrote:
Wilber85 wrote:
The Rodzilla wrote:why do people act like LeBron is not a freight train and wont get through McHale just like people walk through turnstile gates?

btw Jordan scored 19pts against them in the next game and I guarantee that wouldn't ever happen to LeBron, he would be an automatic 30 and 10 assists


If Lebron is a freight train, why do 180-200 lb players that barely touch him , hurt him?


Because he occasionally flops..Now what?


We should keep flopping stats! He could have a Quadruple double a lot of times!
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Re: Mikal Bridges says LeBron would get 90 a game against 86' Celtics 

Post#110 » by Wilber85 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:12 pm

The Rodzilla wrote:
Wilber85 wrote:
The Rodzilla wrote:why do people act like LeBron is not a freight train and wont get through McHale just like people walk through turnstile gates?

btw Jordan scored 19pts against them in the next game and I guarantee that wouldn't ever happen to LeBron, he would be an automatic 30 and 10 assists


If Lebron is a freight train, why do 180-200 lb players that barely touch him , hurt him?


objection! assumes facts not in evidence

sustained!!

sorry ive been watching seasons 8-13 of law and order recently and im not taking any BS


Evidence can be collected! Dude is a flopper. I love people saying he could be GOAT at Tight End. I would love to see lebron play a full season at Tight End with the hits. He would be out!
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Re: Mikal Bridges says LeBron would get 90 a game against 86' Celtics 

Post#111 » by nedleeds » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:15 pm

Darius Miles would get 90 against the '54 Lakers.
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Post#112 » by TheFinishSniper » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:35 pm

STFUYFN


kept it short as possible. guy like this doesnt deserve more attention from me
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Post#113 » by -TheDocOfDenial » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:39 pm

Then why didn't Lebron go automatic 30 and 10 vs. the Mavs?
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Post#114 » by Klayforspicy » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:42 pm

TheFinishSniper wrote:STFUYFN


kept it short as possible. guy like this doesnt deserve more attention from me

woah ..
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Re: Mikal Bridges says LeBron would get 90 a game against 86' Celtics 

Post#115 » by Joao Saraiva » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:46 pm

It is always like this... in that era player X could do this and that. MJ fans do it, LeBron fans do it. MJ would be great in today's game, and LeBron would be great in the 90s. Why is this so difficult to accept?

LeBron averaging 90 a series... he didn't even put 90 in a game ever. No matter against what team. So he wouldn't put 90 back then, as simple as that.

Why can't we just go with what players have done and not speculate at absurd levels?
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Re: Mikal Bridges says LeBron would get 90 a game against 86' Celtics 

Post#116 » by yesh » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:53 pm

OdomFan wrote:Pretty sure Bird and McHale would be all over Lebron all game. Boston could even stick Dennis Johnson on him like they did against Magic.

So uh, yeah. 90 a game? please. Maybe 30-35 but nothing more. Plus Lebron definitely wouldn't get anything easy as long as Robert Parish is in the paint. There was no 3 in the key rule back then so he'd be there every time Lebron goes for the rim. Only way Lebron wins in the 80s is if he joins those Celtics, the Pistons, or the Lakers.


Good chance he joins all of them as soon as there's a better chance to win.
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Post#117 » by Lalouie » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:14 pm

the rest of the team would get 12


and bird goes for 43
parrish 18/13
mchale 29
dj 21
ainge 13
walton 12/10

and btw,,,who's this bridges guy??
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Post#118 » by Lalouie » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:18 pm

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Post#119 » by wade44 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:25 pm

low IQ guys gonna low IQ
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Post#120 » by Clyde Frazier » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:28 pm

Ok? And lose if he did.

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