Shaq says he would’ve dropped 45 & 16 on Rudy Gobert in 3 quarters

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Re: Shaq says he would’ve dropped 45 & 16 on Rudy Gobert in 3 quarters 

Post#101 » by Kukoc-Lauri » Mon Jan 4, 2021 8:44 pm

Shaq is an ...olle but in his prime (00-03) he would defintevly destroyed Gobert, like he did Duncan,Robinson,Mutombo,Sabonis in that stretch. Utah needs to overpay free agents, nobody of marquee fa would go to Utah on vacation (Noah quote) yet alone sign there.
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Re: Shaq says he would’ve dropped 45 & 16 on Rudy Gobert in 3 quarters 

Post#102 » by og15 » Mon Jan 4, 2021 8:45 pm

Ugalde wrote:shaq talks a lot of **** but is normally right about this kind of stuff. every center hes trashed hasn’t really lived up to their potential

What was Gobert's potential supposed to be as a late 1st round pick?
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Re: Shaq says he would’ve dropped 45 & 16 on Rudy Gobert in 3 quarters 

Post#103 » by Indomitable » Mon Jan 4, 2021 8:47 pm

AdagioPace wrote:What's the point of Shaq nowadays?
He's not funny, nor competent....

People love immature Hall of famers.
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Post#104 » by phanman » Mon Jan 4, 2021 8:49 pm

Shaq was a beast, but I challenge anybody to find a game in which he did drop 45 & 16 in 3 quarters against ANYBODY.
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Post#105 » by Harry Garris » Mon Jan 4, 2021 8:50 pm

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Sgt Major wrote:How many points would a mobile center that can shoot from outside drop on Shaq? He would've been ran off the court with today's tempo of the game.


Young Shaq would have been athletic and quick enough to play now but yeah after Shaq got to Miami and became slow and out of shape he would not have been able to stay on the floor in today's NBA. Shaq's peak was brief compared to most all-time greats and conditioning was a big part of why.

The first time he was top 2 in MVP votes was 1995. The last was 2005. A decade isn't brief.

And Miami Shaq would be the best C in the league. Anyone talking about running Shaq off the floor doesn't understand basketball.


No, I think that if you actually believe any modern team would utilize his post presence on offense enough to possibly even put him in the argument of best center in the league in 2021 then it's time to wake up from your coma and turn on a modern NBA game because you clearly haven't been watching. Orlando Shaq I'll give you. Old Shaq who was barely averaging 20 ppg on so-so efficiency? No coach today would run their offense through that. They'd be fired before halftime.
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Re: Shaq says he would’ve dropped 45 & 16 on Rudy Gobert in 3 quarters 

Post#106 » by Indomitable » Mon Jan 4, 2021 8:50 pm

Kukoc-Lauri wrote:Shaq is an ...olle but in his prime (00-03) he would defintevly destroyed Gobert, like he did Duncan,Robinson,Mutombo,Sabonis in that stretch. Utah needs to overpay free agents, nobody of marquee fa would go to Utah on vacation (Noah quote) yet alone sign there.

Shaq would have been in trouble on defense. He was terrible in space. That is why he needed defense power foward. He struggled to cover Rafael Lafrenz. He would get called for his goto lower the shoulder move.
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Re: Shaq says he would’ve dropped 45 & 16 on Rudy Gobert in 3 quarters 

Post#107 » by matt6715 » Mon Jan 4, 2021 8:54 pm

Meanwhile Derrick Henry goes over 2,000 yards rushing and NFL legends and commentators are going out of their way to congratulate him. This era of NBA player-commentators who just try to diminish current players to prop up their own achievements are toxic and legitimately bad for the NBA brand, ratings or retweets be damned.
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Re: Shaq says he would’ve dropped 45 & 16 on Rudy Gobert in 3 quarters 

Post#108 » by NZB2323 » Mon Jan 4, 2021 9:00 pm

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NZB2323 wrote:This is after Shaq led his team to the Finals, when he’s leading his team in points and rebounds. Then Shaq sees that Gobert, who has won 2 playoff series in his entire life, gets $205 million, and Shaq is angry.

I’m not saying it’s right, but I understand how Shaq feels that way.

I don't. The common moniker among players is to never count another man's money, it's an unwritten rule but class gets thrown out the window everytime Shaq feels offended by a situation barely even related to him


That’s never been the rule. Bill Russel’s contract said he would get paid $1 more than the highest paid player. Biggie wanted to make more money than Tupac, Tupac wanted to make more money than Biggie. Stephon Marbury left Minnesota because KG had a bigger contact than what Minnesota could offer Marbury. Butler left Minnesota because they gave Wiggins the max and told Butler to wait for his Max.

Shaq wanted a bigger contact than Mourning. He talked about it in his book “Shaq talks back.” His friends would ask him why guys worse than him were making less money.

We want players like Jordan, Kobe, and Shaq to be super competitive, and that helps them be great and we celebrate that competitive fire, but then when they’re retired we want that fire to die down. We get upset when Shaq trash talks current players, Jordan trash talks during his HOF speech, or Kobe disses one of his daughters teammates for missing a game. How can you celebrate someone having a competitive fire raging inside them during their career and then expect that fire to die when they’re retired?
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Re: Shaq says he would’ve dropped 45 & 16 on Rudy Gobert in 3 quarters 

Post#109 » by iamworthy » Mon Jan 4, 2021 9:05 pm

Still can't believe rudy signed the 3rd largest contract in NBA history.... :lol: seems wild
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Post#110 » by NZB2323 » Mon Jan 4, 2021 9:06 pm

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NZB2323 wrote:Shaq averaged 33 and 16 against Mutumbo who was DPOTY at a time when an average team scored 95 points a game. Now teams are averaging 112 points per game..


He was the dominant player of the late 90s to early 2000s, that weird time after Jordan left the Bulls for good and the league was trying to find itself.

Nevertheless, the reason teams scored 95 a game was because offense in that era consisted (if not exclusively, at least to a large extent) of big guys backing each other down on the low post. It was somewhat boring and resulted in lower scoring defensive struggles.


The league changed rules in 2004 about defense that hurt the Detroit Pistons and helped the Steve Nash Suns flourish. Players and teams scoring averaged increased from 2004.

Shaq played against Hakeem, Ewing, Dennis Rodman, Ben Wallace, Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Kevin Garnett, Mutumbo, etc. I’m sure he could manhandle Gobert while being surrounded by 3 point shooters in today’s NBA.
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Re: Shaq says he would’ve dropped 45 & 16 on Rudy Gobert in 3 quarters 

Post#111 » by NZB2323 » Mon Jan 4, 2021 9:11 pm

matt6715 wrote:Meanwhile Derrick Henry goes over 2,000 yards rushing and NFL legends and commentators are going out of their way to congratulate him. This era of NBA player-commentators who just try to diminish current players to prop up their own achievements are toxic and legitimately bad for the NBA brand, ratings or retweets be damned.


Only 6 players in NFL history have rushed for 2,000 yards.

The only thing Gobert is top 6 in is contracts. I don’t hate the deal, but I can understand the criticism.
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Re: Shaq says he would’ve dropped 45 & 16 on Rudy Gobert in 3 quarters 

Post#112 » by wow09 » Mon Jan 4, 2021 9:19 pm

First he tries to cast shade on Nash's MVPs and now this. It's a bad look.
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Re: Shaq says he would’ve dropped 45 & 16 on Rudy Gobert in 3 quarters 

Post#113 » by phanman » Mon Jan 4, 2021 9:51 pm

Feb 16 93 OT - 46pts in 49mins
Apr 20 94 - 53pts in 36mins
Dec 9 94 - 49pts in 45mins
Nov 11 94 - 46mins in 47mins
Mar 08 95 - 46pts in 42mins
Mar 22 96 - 49pts in 45mins
Apr 02 98 - 50pts in 42mins (9pts in the 4th)
Mar 06 2000 - 61pts in 45mins (19pts in the 4th)
Apr 05 2000 - 49pts in 44mins (15pts in the 4th)
Dec 05 2001 - 46pts in 40mins (13pts in the 4th)
Mar 21 2003 - 48pts in 39mins (14pts in the 4th)

Only 11 instances in which he scored => 46pts in the RS. Anything before 96 there was no play-by-play to double check through baskeball-reference.

Apr 25 97 - 46pts in 36mins (14pts in the 4th)
Apr 23 2000 - 46pts in 46mins (12pts in the 4th)

In the playoffs.
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Re: Shaq says he would’ve dropped 45 & 16 on Rudy Gobert in 3 quarters 

Post#114 » by John Murdoch » Mon Jan 4, 2021 9:52 pm

Feels like the old school rappers hating on mumble rappers ..its insecure in a way but also very accuarte . Sad Shaq never matured tho
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Re: Shaq says he would’ve dropped 45 & 16 on Rudy Gobert in 3 quarters 

Post#115 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Jan 4, 2021 9:55 pm

Shaq's insecurity and bullying has always been a bit of a disappointment considering what a great player and otherwise good dude he seems to be. Would have hoped he would have been over this by now and realized his place in NBA history is forever secured.

Good on Gobert for refusing to take the bait here which is clearly what Shaq wanted.
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Re: Shaq says he would’ve dropped 45 & 16 on Rudy Gobert in 3 quarters 

Post#116 » by DwayneSchintzus » Mon Jan 4, 2021 10:04 pm

I am a Spurs fan and never liked Shaq.

However he is correct here. If you didn't see it firsthand, you don't understand.

I try to explain to my son now that every team needed 3 bigs just to give fouls against him. It doesn't really compute because there is absolutely no analogue to Shaq in today's NBA. He would simply punish every big you had, even the great defenders. Hell, ESPECIALLY the great defenders haha.
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Re: Shaq says he would’ve dropped 45 & 16 on Rudy Gobert in 3 quarters 

Post#117 » by Homer38 » Mon Jan 4, 2021 10:08 pm

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matt6715 wrote:Meanwhile Derrick Henry goes over 2,000 yards rushing and NFL legends and commentators are going out of their way to congratulate him. This era of NBA player-commentators who just try to diminish current players to prop up their own achievements are toxic and legitimately bad for the NBA brand, ratings or retweets be damned.


Only 6 players in NFL history have rushed for 2,000 yards.

The only thing Gobert is top 6 in is contracts. I don’t hate the deal, but I can understand the criticism.



Gobert is also in the top 6(4th in fact) for the most DPOY in NBA history too.
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Post#118 » by GYK » Mon Jan 4, 2021 10:16 pm

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Young Shaq would have been athletic and quick enough to play now but yeah after Shaq got to Miami and became slow and out of shape he would not have been able to stay on the floor in today's NBA. Shaq's peak was brief compared to most all-time greats and conditioning was a big part of why.

That’s insane to say. Like in a wrong way. Him and Kareem are far and away the longest peak centers. He’s a clown for sure but yea ridiculously long peak. 10 year stretch of +27ppg. Most all time bigs have below 5.


You're kidding me, right? Did you watch Shaq in Miami or in Phoenix? He was barely getting down the floor in time to play defense back then, and the game was played at a far slower speed then than it is now.

Who cares. That was 05-retire for a player who arrived in 92-93. Did you not see him from 94-04? To counter the other point, most of that ten years of physical dominance happened in the 90’s a pace era similar to today.
So you picked the worst version of Shaq and ignored the decade he played when the league was fast.

He however is a clown. A giant douche. At 6ft he would be an clearly insufferable personality(which might say something about giants have worse social skills as they live a relatively different existence than the rest us).
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Re: Shaq says he would’ve dropped 45 & 16 on Rudy Gobert in 3 quarters 

Post#119 » by pace31 » Mon Jan 4, 2021 11:44 pm

Kukoc-Lauri wrote:Shaq is an ...olle but in his prime (00-03) he would defintevly destroyed Gobert, like he did Duncan,Robinson,Mutombo,Sabonis in that stretch. Utah needs to overpay free agents, nobody of marquee fa would go to Utah on vacation (Noah quote) yet alone sign there.


LMAO, take a guess who lives here (as a Bulls fan you should know)

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Post#120 » by art_tatum » Mon Jan 4, 2021 11:53 pm

HAS shaq ever dropped 45 in there first there quarters? No? Well then. I know he wasn't being literal, but he's the worst on that tnt panel.

Notice how most his segments are to make fun of others? Shaq the fool? Speaks to his personality.

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