Woj: NBA wants to restart conversations on a mid-season tournament

Triple M · Post #101 » by **Triple M** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:28 pm

miamiheat319 wrote:Adam Silver needs to be introduced to the phrase "if it ain't broke don't fix it"

But it is broke, because haven't people complained about the long and meaningless the regular season. I can see this as a moneymaker for the league because you will likely get more match ups between the marquee stars.

TheFinishSniper · Post #102 » by **TheFinishSniper** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:32 pm

I wouldnt mind donating on paypal or something for a service of getting rid of Silver at this point. My idea is someone take him in middle of atlantic ocean and just drop him there. Let him have quarter finals with waves, semifinals with bad weather and finals with sharks.

gottamakeit · Post #103 » by **gottamakeit** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:41 pm

miamiheat319 wrote:Adam Silver needs to be introduced to the phrase "if it ain't broke don't fix it"

That's a good mantra. But the NBA reg season is weak in viewership. The season is too long, and too meaningless both for the players and the fans. The cherry on top was the addition of the play-in tourney, which further devalued the importance of reg season games. But I think the play-in tourney is here to stay and its growing on me.

My first instinct is to say they should cut 20 games out of the season. But we all know that for spiritual & emotional reasons, that will never happen.

Post #104 » by **coldfish** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:22 pm

I would love it. Not sure how to put something on the line but it would be fun.

IMO, the season is too long to the point where players and fans don't take the whole thing seriously. Eliminate 10 games or so off the schedule and replace it with a single elimination tournament. Would take 5 games. Winner gets an extra first round pick locked in at #8 or something. Finals loser get 16, semi final losers get 22 and 23. First round now has 34 picks instead of 30.

life_saver · Post #105 » by **life_saver** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:28 pm

I really hope this happens...would be the best change Adam Silver has made so far in his tenure if it happens. A knock-out tournament (with first 2 seeds receiving byes) like March Madness will be lot of fun and also has potential to attract lot of casuals, especially for bracket challenges. This will also give a chance to win some silverware for lot of teams/fans who don't have a title contending team and haven't seen their team win anything in a long time. As time goes on, the prestige of the tournament will only increase.

life_saver · Post #106 » by **life_saver** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:32 pm

gottamakeit wrote:
miamiheat319 wrote:Adam Silver needs to be introduced to the phrase "if it ain't broke don't fix it"

That's a good mantra. But the NBA reg season is weak in viewership. The season is too long, and too meaningless both for the players and the fans. The cherry on top was the addition of the play-in tourney, which further devalued the importance of reg season games. But I think the play-in tourney is here to stay and its growing on me.

My first instinct is to say they should cut 20 games out of the season. But we all know that for spiritual & emotional reasons, that will never happen.

I wouldn't say play-in tournament devalued reg season games...infact I actually think it increased importance. Teams who are in that 5-8 range would love to avoid finishing in play-in spots and fight much more to finish in top6 and avoid a scenario like Warriors last season where they finished in 8th place but got knocked out in play-in tournament

Heej · Post #107 » by **Heej** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:42 pm

BallinBug wrote:I'm against it. MJ, Shaq and Kobe never got to play in this tournament, and in the future lack of these tournament MVP's might hurt them on paper when comparing them to current or future greats. Don't create award or trophy's for things MJ didnt have a chance to compete for.

This is amazing

DTP · Post #108 » by **DTP** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:47 pm

These players have cried so much that now fans really do buy this "season is too long" bullcrap, its ridiculous. Please explain why the season is too long? Because casuals get tired of it. How do casuals feel about MLB and NHL seasons....those too long too?

JN61 · Post #109 » by **JN61** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:52 pm

Desperate money grab and desperate act from league to perk lebrons resume.

mszymko · Post #110 » by **mszymko** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:53 pm

makes more sense at the beginning of the season, and then let the outcome determine your season schedule difficulty.

JN61 · Post #111 » by **JN61** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:54 pm

gottamakeit wrote:
miamiheat319 wrote:Adam Silver needs to be introduced to the phrase "if it ain't broke don't fix it"

That's a good mantra. But the NBA reg season is weak in viewership. The season is too long, and too meaningless both for the players and the fans. The cherry on top was the addition of the play-in tourney, which further devalued the importance of reg season games. But I think the play-in tourney is here to stay and its growing on me.

My first instinct is to say they should cut 20 games out of the season. But we all know that for spiritual & emotional reasons, that will never happen.

Monetary reasons*

shangrila · Post #112 » by **shangrila** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:01 pm

coldfish wrote:I would love it. Not sure how to put something on the line but it would be fun.

IMO, the season is too long to the point where players and fans don't take the whole thing seriously. Eliminate 10 games or so off the schedule and replace it with a single elimination tournament. Would take 5 games. Winner gets an extra first round pick locked in at #8 or something. Finals loser get 16, semi final losers get 22 and 23. First round now has 34 picks instead of 30.

I don't think a pick is incentive enough for players. And I think we all know this will be in addition to regular season games, not at the expense of them. This is a cash grab through and through.

Winsome Gerbil · Post #113 » by **Winsome Gerbil** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:44 pm

"Too long" NBA season: Oct 19 to April 15th (end of play in) -- 6 months, 82 games
NFL season: Sept 9 to Jan 9 -- 4 months 17 games (18 weekends)
MLB season: Apr 1 to Oct 3 -- 6 months 162 games
NHL season: Oct 3 to Apr 6 -- 6 months 82 games

Remind sagain how those poor NBA dears are so overworked and the season is SOOO boring.

If you don't like watching basketball, that's fine. Go watch some European kickball. If it's in season.

links135 · Post #114 » by **links135** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:07 pm

Winsome Gerbil wrote:"Too long" NBA season: Oct 19 to April 15th (end of play in) -- 6 months, 82 games
NFL season: Sept 9 to Jan 9 -- 4 months 17 games (18 weekends)
MLB season: Apr 1 to Oct 3 -- 6 months 162 games
NHL season: Oct 3 to Apr 6 -- 6 months 82 games

Remind sagain how those poor NBA dears are so overworked and the season is SOOO boring.

If you don't like watching basketball, that's fine. Go watch some European kickball. If it's in season.

Meh, NFL is only 16 games because of injuries, and it's only 16 games. Not exactly the best argument.

The fact the MLB is 162 games says alot, would be more like expecting pitchers to start all 162. They don't, they rotate because that's stupid. And when your offence is literally one guy at a time who doesn't even run if he doesn't get a hit, well, 162 isn't as hard.

The NHL isn't a bad example, but still, they have 4 forward lines and 3 defensive lines to avoid heavy fatigue.

The NBA has some players playing nearly 40 MPG out of 48, being involved in the play for nearly the entire time. Not to mention the increased pace over recent years has led to overall MPG drops because it's hard to keep up that long.

Lockdown504090 · Post #115 » by **Lockdown504090** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:08 pm

As long as theres a financial incentive for the teams that get W's i wanna see it.

Calvin Klein · Post #116 » by **Calvin Klein** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:11 pm

I don't see the point in this at all. Why would anybody care about this if they don't care about the proper season?

homecourtloss · Post #117 » by **homecourtloss** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:24 pm

Heej wrote:
BallinBug wrote:I'm against it. MJ, Shaq and Kobe never got to play in this tournament, and in the future lack of these tournament MVP's might hurt them on paper when comparing them to current or future greats. Don't create award or trophy's for things MJ didnt have a chance to compete for.

This is amazing

Sums up Jordan stanism and the Jordan hagiography that dribbles onto all basketball message-boards, often by 30 year olds who never even saw him play as a Bull other than maybe as little kids.

SNPA · Post #118 » by **SNPA** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 9:39 pm

Silver wants the gambling money, this dumb tournament is part of that.

No one will care and players will rest. Is the winner going to get rings or banners or a parade? Nah. It’s a whatever, congrats you’re the mid season cup champions! Party!! ….stupid

And for all those that think the regular season is so boring and want less of it, maybe basketball isn’t the sport for you.

Scoundreldays · Post #119 » by **Scoundreldays** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:02 pm

I think the NBA has more important issues to worry about than a mid season tournament

Bulls2021 · Post #120 » by **Bulls2021** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:05 pm

I actually like the idea. Single elimination is obviously hugely popular in the NCAA tournament. Do a midseason single elimination tournament. Give the players enough financial incentive to try in it.