Celtics are interested in Ben Simmons [Shams]

[BK_2020]

Jaylen Brown shoots better than Simmons but Simmons is worlds apart in defense, passing and basketball IQ in general. I don't know why people think a potential Jaylen for Simmons swap is so outrageous.

[celticfan42487]

Not only would the Celtics never do it, Jaylen Brown doesn't actually fix the big issue with Philly.

They need a guy who can score in the final 2 minutes and hit a 3 because Embiid is equally terrible at both.

Jaylen Brown is an all-star version of the 3 and D wing with poor ISO scoring skills. Sure he's better then Ben and the 76ers would be better with him playing next to Embiid then Ben but when the final 2 minutes comes Embiid will still have to throw up bricks and Philly will still lose.

They need to find a Jimmy Butler replacement, a Tatum not a Jaylen Brown if they find a wing at all. Which they shouldn't be, they should be looking for a PG. Hell a find like Derrick Rose would work wonders for their game winning time situations.

[Celts17Pride]

People actually believing the Celtics would trade Jaylen Brown for Ben Simmons.

[Joshyjess]

People actually believing the Celtics would trade Jaylen Brown for Ben Simmons.

Haven't you heard - Simmons is better than Brown!

[FreeThrowLine]

If true, Celtics need to be drug tested

[VDT]

The truth is probably that the Celtics at some point explored the possibility of a Simmons trade but it never got any traction and we just learn about it after days/weeks. As someone pointed it out, it is very hard for a first year GM to make such a trade unless there are things going on behind the scenes that we do not know about.

Having said that, the Celtics are 4-6, Tatum and Brown as the two main stars are not a good fit as no one can create for others and the team is going nowhere. I wouldnt be surprised if there is frustration on the team and Tatum/Braun are feuding about who the franchise player is. There is an actual possibility here that the Celtics are looking to trade one of Tatum/Braun.

[Celts17Pride]

The truth is probably that the Celtics at some point explored the possibility of a Simmons trade but it never got any traction and we just learn about it after days/weeks. As someone pointed it out, it is very hard for a first year GM to make such a trade unless there are things going on behind the scenes that we do not know about.

Having said that, the Celtics are 4-6, Tatum and Brown as the two main stars are not a good fit as no one can create for others and the team is going nowhere. I wouldnt be surprised if there is frustration on the team and Tatum/Braun are feuding about who the franchise player is. There is an actual possibility here that the Celtics are looking to trade one of Tatum/Braun.

Celtics "issues" have less to do with Tatum/Brown and more to do with Smart/Schroder

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To a division rival though? Love to see this match-up 4 times a year.

Not sure how Simmons helps the C's but maybe they're breaking up Tatum and Brown and getting some extra value in terms of draft considerations from Philly in return. Perhaps a 3rd team. Interesting rumour either way.

[Slacktard]

If this was November 8, 2020. A Simmons for Brown deal doesn't really look outrageous except for it being between two division rivals.

Ben Simmons is a 24 year old 2-time allstar widely regarded as one of the best defensive players against guards/forwards in the league and an effective playmaker.

Jaylen Brown is a 24 year old 0-time allstar who has in the eyes of many been leaped over by a younger, more talented and more all-around player in Jayson Tatum.

The past year has obviously changed a lot. Not in really elevating Brown (although he did have a very good season), but in weakening Simmons value with his flaws being magnified in the playoffs leading to the off-the-court drama we've had for 5 months.

[Celts17Pride]

To a division rival though? Love to see this match-up 4 times a year.

Not sure how Simmons helps the C's but maybe they're breaking up Tatum and Brown and getting some extra value in terms of draft considerations from Philly in return. Perhaps a 3rd team. Interesting rumour either way.

Celtics only interest in Simmons would be to "add" him to Tatum and Brown. Personally I am not a fan of Ben Simmons at all.

[Dark Faze]

Boston would be insane to move Jaylen for Simmons.

Boston was probably interested in seeing if they could offer Smart, filler, and like a decade worth of picks, but Morey has said he's not interested in anything but all-star level play.

[Slacktard]

To a division rival though? Love to see this match-up 4 times a year.

Not sure how Simmons helps the C's but maybe they're breaking up Tatum and Brown and getting some extra value in terms of draft considerations from Philly in return. Perhaps a 3rd team. Interesting rumour either way.

Celtics only interest in Simmons would be to "add" him to Tatum and Brown. Personally I am not a fan of Ben Simmons at all.

As long as Brown and Tatum both think they are the alpha the team will not function. You need a player to be willing to step-back and concede. Tatum will put up as many shots each night as it takes to try to catch Brown's point totals. That's not a winning strategy.

I'm not saying Brown for Simmons is the solution, but I do think Boston will need to split them up.

[Celts17Pride]

To a division rival though? Love to see this match-up 4 times a year.

Not sure how Simmons helps the C's but maybe they're breaking up Tatum and Brown and getting some extra value in terms of draft considerations from Philly in return. Perhaps a 3rd team. Interesting rumour either way.

Celtics only interest in Simmons would be to "add" him to Tatum and Brown. Personally I am not a fan of Ben Simmons at all.

As long as Brown and Tatum both think they are the alpha the team will not function. You need a player to be willing to step-back and concede. Tatum will put up as many shots each night as it takes to try to catch Brown's point totals. That's not a winning strategy.

I'm not saying Brown for Simmons is the solution, but I do think Boston will need to split them up.

Brown and Tatum went to 2 ECF in 3 years. This notion that they can't win together is just made up Fake News. Celtics need a better supporting cast that shoots better than 33%

[VDT]

The truth is probably that the Celtics at some point explored the possibility of a Simmons trade but it never got any traction and we just learn about it after days/weeks. As someone pointed it out, it is very hard for a first year GM to make such a trade unless there are things going on behind the scenes that we do not know about.

Having said that, the Celtics are 4-6, Tatum and Brown as the two main stars are not a good fit as no one can create for others and the team is going nowhere. I wouldnt be surprised if there is frustration on the team and Tatum/Braun are feuding about who the franchise player is. There is an actual possibility here that the Celtics are looking to trade one of Tatum/Braun.

Celtics "issues" have less to do with Tatum/Brown and more to do with Smart/Schroder

Disagree. The issue is that by themselves they are not a good fit as they cant create for others and they are not really superstar level players anyway. The Celtics would need a third star to run the offense in order to go anywhere and requiring a third star for the team to work is pretty limiting in terms of roster building, as its almost impossible to have 3 stars on the team.
Wing duos work only when they have playmaking abilities, Pippen-Jordan, Lebron-Wade etc. A bad record and the lack of any progress over the last years is also likely to further poison the team chemistry. I wouldnt be surprised if there is some kind of feud between Brown and Tatum over who the guy is.
It is not inconceivable that the Celtics are thinking of breaking the duo instead of hoping to get a third (super)star to actually lead the team and run the offense. Is Simmons the guy they would trade Brown for? Likely not but stranger things have happened and as i said we dont know what's going behind the scenes.

[HoopsterJones]

Jaylen Brown shoots better than Simmons but Simmons is worlds apart in defense, passing and basketball IQ in general. I don't know why people think a potential Jaylen for Simmons swap is so outrageous.

It’s mostly that Celtics fans value Brown more than Simmons. They’re not that far apart in value in my opinion. But Simmons not playing in games so far this season is hurting his value.

[BK_2020]

If this was November 8, 2020. A Simmons for Brown deal doesn't really look outrageous except for it being between two division rivals.

Ben Simmons is a 24 year old 2-time allstar widely regarded as one of the best defensive players against guards/forwards in the league and an effective playmaker.

Jaylen Brown is a 24 year old 0-time allstar who has in the eyes of many been leaped over by a younger, more talented and more all-around player in Jayson Tatum.

The past year has obviously changed a lot. Not in really elevating Brown (although he did have a very good season), but in weakening Simmons value with his flaws being magnified in the playoffs leading to the off-the-court drama we've had for 5 months.

This post brings to light another quality that sets the two apart. For all the talk about Simmons' failure in the 2021 playoffs, people forget that Jaylen Brown did not even play. Availability is the most important quality because a player that's out with an injury produces 0 PER and 0-0-0 slash. Simmons has been the far more durable player ever since taking his "rookie" year off.
I would do a Jaylen for Simmons swap in a second, but ideally the Sixers take on Smart's contract and give us back Shake Milton or something.

[Celts17Pride]

The truth is probably that the Celtics at some point explored the possibility of a Simmons trade but it never got any traction and we just learn about it after days/weeks. As someone pointed it out, it is very hard for a first year GM to make such a trade unless there are things going on behind the scenes that we do not know about.

Having said that, the Celtics are 4-6, Tatum and Brown as the two main stars are not a good fit as no one can create for others and the team is going nowhere. I wouldnt be surprised if there is frustration on the team and Tatum/Braun are feuding about who the franchise player is. There is an actual possibility here that the Celtics are looking to trade one of Tatum/Braun.

Celtics "issues" have less to do with Tatum/Brown and more to do with Smart/Schroder

Disagree. The issue is that by themselves they are not a good fit as they cant create for others and they are not really superstar level players anyway. The Celtics would need a third star to run the offense in order to go anywhere and requiring a third star for the team to work is pretty limiting in terms of roster building, as its almost impossible to have 3 stars on the team.
Wing duos work only when they have playmaking abilities, Pippen-Jordan, Lebron-Wade etc. A bad record and the lack of any progress over the last years is also likely to further poison the team chemistry. I wouldnt be surprised if there is some kind of feud between Brown and Tatum over who the guy is.
It is not inconceivable that the Celtics are thinking of breaking the duo instead of hoping to get a third (super)star to actually lead the team and run the offense. Is Simmons the guy they would trade Brown for? Likely not but stranger things have happened and as i said we dont know what's going behind the scenes.

Brown and Tatum seemed to fit pretty well when they went to 2 ECF in 3 years. Made up story.

[Celts17Pride]

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To a division rival though? Love to see this match-up 4 times a year.

Not sure how Simmons helps the C's but maybe they're breaking up Tatum and Brown and getting some extra value in terms of draft considerations from Philly in return. Perhaps a 3rd team. Interesting rumour either way.

Celtics only interest in Simmons would be to "add" him to Tatum and Brown. Personally I am not a fan of Ben Simmons at all.

As long as Brown and Tatum both think they are the alpha the team will not function. You need a player to be willing to step-back and concede. Tatum will put up as many shots each night as it takes to try to catch Brown's point totals. That's not a winning strategy.

I'm not saying Brown for Simmons is the solution, but I do think Boston will need to split them up.

That's the only rationale that makes sense to me, talent wise I wouldn't break them up but from the outside there does seems to be some friction. Personally I thought the Smart, Langford etc trade proposed earlier made most sense if I was a C's fan

[FrodoFraggins]

Lol the Celtics beat reporters have chimed in on this...

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To be fair, beat writers are scum and know very little about basketball.

The issue with Jaylen+ for Harden wasn't value, it was whether or not he even wanted to come to Boston and would stay.