Pointgod wrote:User_denied wrote:Harry Garris wrote:I mean if Philly can't get a decent trade package in return for Simmons they can hold out the rest of his contract. No sense in trading him if the trade isn't going to result in a meaningful improvement in the team's title chances.
This is definitely not how I see it. If he doesn't play this year then his value just goes down. Those advocating on holding Simmons indefinitely feels like they just want to "stick it" to Simmons rather then good asset management.
His value has no way to improve. He won't play and even if he does it's plain to see that it wouldn't go very well. And as for the "teams getting desperate" to make his value go up. This discounts the fact that other teams are involved in bidding and can outbid a devalued Simmons quite easily. So how do you get a star with him by holding on to him?
Holding on to him without a realistic way to increase his value is just lunacy to me. There are still decent (albeit not franchise changing packages) out there that you can combine with your own assets to get their star at a later date.
Because to anyone with half a brain it is absolute lunacy. I don’t understand how Morey has deluded himself and Sixers fans into believing that they’re going to get a better offer now than what they would have gotten before the season started. There are two things working against them that the pro Morey side never acknowledge.
1. Simmons hasn’t played at all this season. What GM aim their right mind would believe that the trade value goes up if a player hasn’t been on the court.
2. The whole mental health issues going public have made a mess of this whole thing. Now GMs are going to start questioning long term if Simmons is in the right frame of mind and he might bail on their teams. Look at how Kyrie’s erratic behavior has made him toxic.
Simmons asked for a trade in June/July it’s been almost 5 months. By December it’s going to be almost half a year and a quarter of the season that he hasn’t played. Should have been traded during the offseason, but Morey insisted on dicking around with insane trade requests. No team actually NEEDS Simmons right now. A lot could use him but the fact that Morey dragged this thing on longer doesn’t provide any incentive for any team to empty their war chest.
I agree with you, the Ben Simmons stock has tanked. I would imagine tho alot of fans don't think selling a stock when its tanked is the best course of action.
I don't think the Ben Simmons stock can get any lower to be honest. You have someone who floundered in the playoffs, was publicly a Diva, and then publicly acknowledged mental/emotional health issues on top of that.
Since Ben Simmons is the largest stake holder in the Ben Simmons stock, he will eventually have to fix that, or there is no next great payday.
Since there appears to be no great offer coming in for 76ers, putting as much time in-between the shock of Ben Simmons announcements and trading Ben might be their best play. They are going to have to weigh the perception they give off to future players they will sign (IE being held hostage) versus the message that trying this with the 76ers is a loosing strategy.
At some point Ben Simmons or his handlers are going to have to go on a full court character rebuilding tour de-force because his future earning are going to be on the line. We will see the all business Simmons working out and taking 3 pointers in practice..etc... something that is telling future potential employers Simmons is working his tail off, .....That might be the 76ers best point for a return on a trade. Cause...right now... Ben Simmons does not seem like an actual player ready to help anyyyyyyone.....
