Nets Assistant Steals The Ball Late

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Yeah, officials are going to make mistakes - but the egregious thing there is that a coach would actually deflect the basketball. That's incredible to me. Yeah, it was a spur of the moment thing, but... who the bleep cares? He did it, and he has control over his actions.
That's pro wrestling style bs that just can't happen in an NBA game.

The craziest part about this is that he had to reach to do it for a ball going away from him. Like I could maybe understand if he turned around and the ball was coming straight to him and thought it was just an errant pass. I dont know what the hell he was thinking there?

[mademan]

If the punishment here isnt severe, im not sure what the league is doing. This is an integrity of the game question; it's not about a missed call or a bad call, it's, do we allow cheating if you can get away with it? Cause that what this was...straight up cheating.

Win should be voided, fine and suspension. You should not be able to be awarded a game that you were caught cheating in, even if you were only caught retroactively.

[Cubbies2120]

The worst part is the assistant knew he interfered and didn't admit to it to refs.

Forfeit the win and assistant should be banned from the NBA for lacking any semblance of morals.

Why would he admit it? Lol, players try to get away with stuff all the time too. Should KD have told the ref "Hey I was out, it's their ball" here? https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/how-nba-refs-missed-out-bounds-call-kevin-durant-vs-rockets

[mademan]

i don't see how that coach gets anything less than a 10 game suspension without pay. What he did was a complete insult to the entire sport of basketball.

coach's punishment will happen. To me, the important thing is what happens with the Nets win and Wizards loss. They were caught cheating. How do you end up awarding them the win?

[Duffman100]

The worst part is the assistant knew he interfered and didn't admit to it to refs.

Forfeit the win and assistant should be banned from the NBA for lacking any semblance of morals.

Why would he admit it? Lol, players try to get away with stuff all the time too. Should KD have told the ref "Hey I was out, it's their ball" here? https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/how-nba-refs-missed-out-bounds-call-kevin-durant-vs-rockets

Something called 'integrity'?

[shakes0]

i don't see how that coach gets anything less than a 10 game suspension without pay. What he did was a complete insult to the entire sport of basketball.

coach's punishment will happen. To me, the important thing is what happens with the Nets win and Wizards loss. They were caught cheating. How do you end up awarding them the win?

I don't agree with that. The result of the game is unfortunate, but at this point there is nothing that can be done. All you can do now is punish so severely that no one will think of doing it in the future. Not getting paid for 10 games should accomplish that.

[mademan]

i don't see how that coach gets anything less than a 10 game suspension without pay. What he did was a complete insult to the entire sport of basketball.

coach's punishment will happen. To me, the important thing is what happens with the Nets win and Wizards loss. They were caught cheating. How do you end up awarding them the win?

I don't agree with that. The result of the game is unfortunate, but at this point there is nothing that can be done. All you can do now is punish so severely that no one will think of doing it in the future. Not getting paid for 10 games should accomplish that.

Again, this isnt a missed call or a bad call. This is literally the Nets being caught cheating (yes a day after) in a game they won in. How can they be awarded a win when they were caught cheating? If the league cares about integrity, the win should be voided.

[Duffman100]

coach's punishment will happen. To me, the important thing is what happens with the Nets win and Wizards loss. They were caught cheating. How do you end up awarding them the win?

I don't agree with that. The result of the game is unfortunate, but at this point there is nothing that can be done. All you can do now is punish so severely that no one will think of doing it in the future. Not getting paid for 10 games should accomplish that.

Again, this isnt a missed call or a bad call. This is literally the Nets being caught cheating (yes a day after) in a game they won in. How can they be awarded a win when they were caught cheating? If the league cares about integrity, the win should be voided.

Agreed 100%. This is the equivalent of throwing a second ball or puck into the game in baseball / hockey and the ref not noticing and it leading to a run / goal.

Or a pass to a receiver in football that is batted down by a sideline coach.

If this was caught in real time, it would have been two technical foul shots and the ball for Washington.

[Cubbies2120]

The worst part is the assistant knew he interfered and didn't admit to it to refs.

Forfeit the win and assistant should be banned from the NBA for lacking any semblance of morals.

Why would he admit it? Lol, players try to get away with stuff all the time too. Should KD have told the ref "Hey I was out, it's their ball" here? https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/how-nba-refs-missed-out-bounds-call-kevin-durant-vs-rockets

Something called 'integrity'?

So, should players also have to display integrity and be honest when they stepped out, or touched a tipped ball last but got possession anyways? Or are players exempt in your scenario?

[mademan]

Why would he admit it? Lol, players try to get away with stuff all the time too. Should KD have told the ref "Hey I was out, it's their ball" here? https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/how-nba-refs-missed-out-bounds-call-kevin-durant-vs-rockets

Something called 'integrity'?

So, should players also have to display integrity and be honest when they stepped out, or touched a tipped ball last but got possession anyways? Or are players exempt in your scenario?

missed calls /=/ cheating. This is a coach inserting himself into the game

[Mister Ze]

Silver : we are banning him FOR LIFE

[JD225]

What the hell is he thinking? Forget suspension or fine that assistant should be banned from the league. I also don't understand people trying to equate it to a player trying to get away with something... that's apples and oranges.

[shakes0]

I don't agree with that. The result of the game is unfortunate, but at this point there is nothing that can be done. All you can do now is punish so severely that no one will think of doing it in the future. Not getting paid for 10 games should accomplish that.

Again, this isnt a missed call or a bad call. This is literally the Nets being caught cheating (yes a day after) in a game they won in. How can they be awarded a win when they were caught cheating? If the league cares about integrity, the win should be voided.

Agreed 100%. This is the equivalent of throwing a second ball or puck into the game in baseball / hockey and the ref not noticing and it leading to a run / goal.

Or a pass to a receiver in football that is batted down by a sideline coach.

If this was caught in real time, it would have been two technical foul shots and the ball for Washington.

Going back and changing results based on one play would open a floodgate that benefits no one. They should've caught this in real time and assessed massive penalties, but they didn't. Only thing that can be done now is to punish the guy so bad no one will try this in the future.

[Duffman100]

Again, this isnt a missed call or a bad call. This is literally the Nets being caught cheating (yes a day after) in a game they won in. How can they be awarded a win when they were caught cheating? If the league cares about integrity, the win should be voided.

Agreed 100%. This is the equivalent of throwing a second ball or puck into the game in baseball / hockey and the ref not noticing and it leading to a run / goal.

Or a pass to a receiver in football that is batted down by a sideline coach.

If this was caught in real time, it would have been two technical foul shots and the ball for Washington.

Going back and changing results based on one play would open a floodgate that benefits no one. They should've caught this in real time and assessed massive penalties, but they didn't. Only thing that can be done now is to punish the guy so bad no one will try this in the future.

But then the question is what punishment will actually work?

If a team realizes that all they have to do is endure a suspension for an assistant coach.. that isn't much of a deterrent.

[shakes0]

Agreed 100%. This is the equivalent of throwing a second ball or puck into the game in baseball / hockey and the ref not noticing and it leading to a run / goal.

Or a pass to a receiver in football that is batted down by a sideline coach.

If this was caught in real time, it would have been two technical foul shots and the ball for Washington.

Going back and changing results based on one play would open a floodgate that benefits no one. They should've caught this in real time and assessed massive penalties, but they didn't. Only thing that can be done now is to punish the guy so bad no one will try this in the future.

But then the question is what punishment will actually work?

If a team realizes that all they have to do is endure a suspension for an assistant coach.. that isn't much of a deterrent.

there's always a punishment that will work. You suspend a coach a significant number of games without pay and I doubt you are going to find a coach willing to stick his hand out in the future. Just need to figure out what that number is.

[mademan]

Again, this isnt a missed call or a bad call. This is literally the Nets being caught cheating (yes a day after) in a game they won in. How can they be awarded a win when they were caught cheating? If the league cares about integrity, the win should be voided.

Agreed 100%. This is the equivalent of throwing a second ball or puck into the game in baseball / hockey and the ref not noticing and it leading to a run / goal.

Or a pass to a receiver in football that is batted down by a sideline coach.

If this was caught in real time, it would have been two technical foul shots and the ball for Washington.

Going back and changing results based on one play would open a floodgate that benefits no one. They should've caught this in real time and assessed massive penalties, but they didn't. Only thing that can be done now is to punish the guy so bad no one will try this in the future.

This is a coach inserting himself into a game thereby affecting it's outcome. We accept refs cant catch everything and that players will try to fool refs; we cannot accept coaches physically affecting the outcomes of the game.

If you can retroactively catch a team cheating in a game they won in, their win should be voided, and i honestly dont think thats controversial at all.

[Ruzious]

I wonder if there is an avenue in the NBA to protest games. Fwiw, Major League Baseball has had 5 games successfully protested. https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2014/08/21/5-times-mlb-game-protests-have-been-upheld/

[shakes0]

Agreed 100%. This is the equivalent of throwing a second ball or puck into the game in baseball / hockey and the ref not noticing and it leading to a run / goal.

Or a pass to a receiver in football that is batted down by a sideline coach.

If this was caught in real time, it would have been two technical foul shots and the ball for Washington.

Going back and changing results based on one play would open a floodgate that benefits no one. They should've caught this in real time and assessed massive penalties, but they didn't. Only thing that can be done now is to punish the guy so bad no one will try this in the future.

This is a coach inserting himself into a game thereby affecting it's outcome. We accept refs cant catch everything and that players will try to fool refs; we cannot accept coaches physically affecting the outcomes of the game.

If you can retroactively catch a team cheating in a game they won in, their win should be voided, and i honestly dont think thats controversial at all.

I think you're missing the big picture, but whatever. I understand the frustration, it was a total BS move by the coach. I'm just looking at it from a macro POV and the other issues that can arise if the league starts going back and voiding wins.

[kg01]

I wonder if there is an avenue in the NBA to protest games. Fwiw, Major League Baseball has had 5 games successfully protested. https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2014/08/21/5-times-mlb-game-protests-have-been-upheld/

Heat/Hawks had a portion of a game replayed a while ago.

https://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?id=3192421

The Atlanta Hawks and Miami Heat must replay the final 51.9
seconds of their game last month because the official scorer ruled
incorrectly that Shaquille O'Neal fouled out, the league said
Friday.

Not sure if what happened in last night's game rises to the level of needing to be replayed, but the league can do it if they want iiuc.

[Nate505]

The whole season seems a bit much, but still, a pretty harsh punishment needs to happen.

I'd say 20 games or so. This really isn't an issue in general (like I don't ever remember seeing anything like this in the 30+ years I've been watching the NBA), but still, a light punishment encourages this sort of stuff.