[WOJ] Cleveland is acquiring Caris Levert in a trade for Ricky Rubio, '22 1st and 2 2nds

[CIN-C-STAR]

The Houston 2nd rounder is basically a late 1st

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By that logic isn't the Cavs FRP, which will be a late 1st, basically an early 2nd?
So it's still a 1st and a 2nd, basically

[cupcakesnake]

I used to like Caris Levert quite a bit when I thought he'd be a big distributing guard with some scoring punch. He ended up developing into a tunnel vision iso hunter who attacks the middle of the floor. I like him less!

I don't like the trade big picture for the Cavs. I kinda thought the best move here was patience: keep Rubio's bird rights and keep your picks. But this trade does make them more interesting this season. The Cavs getting another guy who can dribble is a big upgrade, regardless of whether we like Levert or not. He'll be entering a rotation that is currently: Okoro, Cedi Osmon, Dean Wade, Dylan Windler. It's just not hard to improve on that!

Levert is 27. He's not a nice young piece they're adding to their core. He's their Rubio replacement and he cost a FRP.

[Buckeye-NBAFan]

Cavs are looking gooooooooooooooooood...

Garland
LeVert
Markkanen
Mobley
Allen

But there's one glaring hole with that lineup.... outside shooting. LeVert is alright but IMO the Cavs need a real knockdown shooter (a guy like Hield, Trent, etc.)

I don't think the Cavs are done yet.

Hield is 29, shooting 42% from 2 and 37% from 3, can't play defense or do anything beyond shoot the 3, and makes $20M/year. Why are so many people fascinated by him? He'll be making the minimum once his contract's up.

I never said the Cavs should get Hield. I personally think his contract is atrocious. What I'm suggesting is that they need a knockdown shooter LIKE Hield and Trent.

Agreed, they need someone not like Hield. Powell would've a been better fit, and cheaper (no 1st), than LeVert.

[planetmars]

Just makes the Norm Powell/Robert Covington trade look worse for the Blazers.... LeVert's value should be a fair amount lower and they still get a 1st round pick.

The Blazers trade is bad.. but Keon Johnson was picked 21st in a pretty good draft year. And the Blazers got to see him in the NBA for half the season. He's become the forgotten man in this trade. He's likely as good or better than the picks Indiana got for LeVert. But that's a wait and see I guess.

[LoveMyRaps]

Hield is 29, shooting 42% from 2 and 37% from 3, can't play defense or do anything beyond shoot the 3, and makes $20M/year. Why are so many people fascinated by him? He'll be making the minimum once his contract's up.

I never said the Cavs should get Hield. I personally think his contract is atrocious. What I'm suggesting is that they need a knockdown shooter LIKE Hield and Trent.

Agreed, they need someone not like Hield. Powell would've a been better fit, and cheaper (no 1st), than LeVert.

Oh true.... Considering Blazers just traded Powell for peanuts, I wonder if the Cavs made any attempt to get him...

Heck... even Covington would've been a great fit.

Garland/Powell/Covington/Mobley/Allen is scary.

[Bruin]

The Houston 2nd rounder is basically a late 1st

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By that logic isn't the Cavs FRP, which will be a late 1st, basically an early 2nd?
So it's still a 1st and a 2nd, basically

I mean you can look at it however you like. As things currently stand, it’s a 3 way tie for 22/23/24th pick + 33rd pick. Pretty damn good haul for Indiana

[DavidSterned]

Just makes the Norm Powell/Robert Covington trade look worse for the Blazers.... LeVert's value should be a fair amount lower and they still get a 1st round pick.

the portland deal is definitely bad but norm also has 3 more years on his deal so financially, clippers took on way more salary.

I view Norm's deal as a very reasonable one though. He's only 28 and he's proven that he's worth that money with no threat of him getting a big payday again anytime soon. Should be a very movable contract going forward for any team that wanted to take him on.

[tundraknight]

So the Cavs 1st is lottery protected.

In an unlikely scenario the Cavs collapse and miss the playoffs, does the 1st extinguish or does it turn to 2 2nds or something?

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[Johnny Firpo]

LeVert is just a bad, bad basketball player, and as anti-Cavs as it goes, he'll single handedly turn their top 3 defense into a top 11-12 defense, if he plays a lot.

[djsunyc]

so if the pistons or spurs throw a crazy deal to sexton (teams that could use him), will the cavs go over to keep him?

[LivingLegend]

I used to like Caris Levert quite a bit when I thought he'd be a big distributing guard with some scoring punch. He ended up developing into a tunnel vision iso hunter who attacks the middle of the floor. I like him less!

I don't like the trade big picture for the Cavs. I kinda thought the best move here was patience: keep Rubio's bird rights and keep your picks. But this trade does make them more interesting this season. The Cavs getting another guy who can dribble is a big upgrade, regardless of whether we like Levert or not. He'll be entering a rotation that is currently: Okoro, Cedi Osmon, Dean Wade, Dylan Windler. It's just not hard to improve on that!

Levert is 27. He's not a nice young piece they're adding to their core. He's their Rubio replacement and he cost a FRP.

Draft picks are overrated. The entire Cavs young rotation players consist of Wade/Stevens/Goodwin who were all UDFAs. Proving you can find good young depth in the UDFA pool as well as you can in the 2nd round if you have a competent player development system.

Once you get past pick 20 its literally a low % crap shoot. I would much rather have a player like LeVert (even with his flaws) than a chest full of 2nd round draft picks that will 90% of the time amount to nothing.

Plus, the Cavs dont need any more young draft picks. Their team is already littered with young developing talent. Eventually you have to offset that with veterans.

Garland, Allen, Sexton, Okoro, Windler, Wade, Stevens, Goodwin are all 23 years old or younger. How many more draft picks do you need lol

[dakomish23]

He’s got to shoot better to make the fit better. Talent upgrade but doesn’t he need the ball in his hands?

[ITYSL]

I don't know, it seems like an overpay for someone who's not worth overpaying.

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[dakomish23]

Hield is 29, shooting 42% from 2 and 37% from 3, can't play defense or do anything beyond shoot the 3, and makes $20M/year. Why are so many people fascinated by him? He'll be making the minimum once his contract's up.

I never said the Cavs should get Hield. I personally think his contract is atrocious. What I'm suggesting is that they need a knockdown shooter LIKE Hield and Trent.

Agreed, they need someone not like Hield. Powell would've a been better fit, and cheaper (no 1st), than LeVert.

Powell a 100x better fit

[evilution]

As a Pacers fan, this is as good as I could have expected. No wonder we even delivered him. Also a clear sign (whew) that we're done with this season.

He's been chucking way too much for us, even when our roster was healthier. Maybe if Cavs manage to rein that in, he can be a good sixth man for them.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I don't know, it seems like an overpay for someone who's not worth overpaying.

I don't think it's an overpay, they still have Sexton and can trade him this summer if they need to add more talent, or they can keep him and use him as a 6th man.

[JujitsuFlip]

I never said the Cavs should get Hield. I personally think his contract is atrocious. What I'm suggesting is that they need a knockdown shooter LIKE Hield and Trent.

Agreed, they need someone not like Hield. Powell would've a been better fit, and cheaper (no 1st), than LeVert.

Oh true.... Considering Blazers just traded Powell for peanuts, I wonder if the Cavs made any attempt to get him...

Heck... even Covington would've been a great fit.

Garland/Powell/Covington/Mobley/Allen is scary.

That would've been a much better trade for the Cavs.

[DowJones]

Im seeing a lot of people saying that LeVert is a good fit for Cleveland. My question is what about him is a good fit?

He is a ball dominant player that isnt a good shooter and is a bad defender. He seems like a horrible fit alongside Garland in that starting lineup. Unless the thought is to have him being a microwave scorer 6th man. If that is the case, that is quite the hefty price tag for a 6th man.

You are pooping all over LeVert in this thread. He isn’t as bad as you claim. He is around league average this year in shooting efficiency for guards. The Cavs desperately needed a 2nd scoring option on the perimeter. He can create his own shot and he is a solid passer. 44% from the field isn’t awful considering his shot selection, but I do wish he were a better 3 point shooter.