[WINDHORST]: Lakers May Need To Trade For LeBron This Summer

[Memories]

yeah until Laker fans say "for Evan Mobley"

Yeah but is it THAT bad of an idea if the trade was basically Lebron for Mobley and picks? If your team would become immediate title contending favorites, that sounds like a win no?

Garland
Caris LeVert
Okoro
Lebron
Allen
+depth up the wazoo.

With that said, I don't know if Dan Gilbert would be interested in having a player that left him twice, even if it meant they would be immediate favorites to win.

the trade would be for sexton and kevin love plus picks

Mmmm, doubt that. Lakers can find a desperate team with a better package than that. You would see at least a couple of teams that will offer up a nice farm just for business reasons alone (selling out tickets, jersey sales, nationally televised games, etc).

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The Russ trade doomed the Lakers and LeBron has to take responsibility for that.

He even mocked the media for saying it wouldn’t work..after one good practice

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Did the playoffs start, yet?

What's the probability the Lakers MISS the play in?

The Washington Bullets went 60-22 and advanced only to be swept by ....?

Wes Unseld (Sr.) and Elvin Hayes, with my church member at Grace UM church back in the day, Greg Ballard; oh, and with two other guys something Kupchak (sp?) and Bobby D.... and, IIRC

Tommy Henderson (give him and my guy Artie Wilson, Jr.) shout outs


Bullets in 1978

Can't the Lakers 2022 do the same this season?

In loving memory of Laker fan, James Eric Williams. Rest well, minister of the gospel, My Friend

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The Lakers stink and appear to GOT NO CHANCE but I could easily see them knock out the Warriors on the okie doke

[Mind_Odyssey]

So sad for him.
But no Thank you on cavs trading any of our core for LBJ.

correct me if im wrong but his last year in cleveland (the 2nd time around) wasnt lebron pushing for trades? i believe that was the case and clevaland like the lakers did not want to lose any future picks. Which is one reason the cavs rebuild has gone so well.

I have a feeling the lakers know lebron is gone after his contract and with AD being so unreliable they do not want to be without "any" future.

You’re correct btw

And it has worked out for us thankfully

[anotherhomer]

Yeah but is it THAT bad of an idea if the trade was basically Lebron for Mobley and picks? If your team would become immediate title contending favorites, that sounds like a win no?

Garland
Caris LeVert
Okoro
Lebron
Allen
+depth up the wazoo.

With that said, I don't know if Dan Gilbert would be interested in having a player that left him twice, even if it meant they would be immediate favorites to win.

the trade would be for sexton and kevin love plus picks

Mmmm, doubt that. Lakers can find a desperate team with a better package than that. You would see at least a couple of teams that will offer up a nice farm just for business reasons alone (selling out tickets, jersey sales, nationally televised games, etc).

the problem is that , Lebron can choose not to play ball, and say i will only want to play for X, Y, Z team
and it'll be for only one season

[Memories]

the trade would be for sexton and kevin love plus picks

Mmmm, doubt that. Lakers can find a desperate team with a better package than that. You would see at least a couple of teams that will offer up a nice farm just for business reasons alone (selling out tickets, jersey sales, nationally televised games, etc).

the problem is that , Lebron can choose not to play ball, and say i will only want to play for X, Y, Z team
and it'll be for only one season

He could, but he doesn't have a no-trade clause. Lakers can send him to Canada if they wanted to, just like the Spurs did to Kawhi.

And ask Raptors fans if they regret only having one year of Kawhi.

[jbk1234]

LeBron isn't getting traded unless he requests a trade, which he's never going to do.

More importantly though:The Lakers are one of very few teams who can nearly always be in win-now mode due to how big a FA draw they are. If this was the Kings or Pistons or Pacers or Thunder, etc. I'd maybe agree with the thinking. The Lakers though? Trade Westbrook and those picks, build a contender for 2 more seasons. Big name free agents will come soon enough.

The problem is that they're at the end stage Kobe here with at least one of their two core pieces and that makes it a lot harder to go the free agency route. Good free agents weren't flocking to the the Lakers when Kobe was making twenty-five percent of the cap at the end of his career. Also if you have AD and LBJ make 70% of the cap, once you've added in cap holds, there's not enough money to offer even a single vet max deal.

I'm talking about post-LeBron. I'm saying that trading 2027 and 2029 FRP's isn't as big a deal for the Lakers as it is for a team that's never going to draw elite players in free agency. Spend those picks to build contender for the next couple of seasons. Not having those picks won't be that big a deal when stars are eager to sign with you.

Let's assume that the Lakers didn't have Ball, Ingram, Hart and truck load of future firsts to trade for AD. Do you think LBJ still decides to make part of his legacy getting the Lakers another ring? Because it wasn't all that long ago when the Lakers were signing guys like Mozgov and Deng with their cap space and couldn't even get meetings with FAs like LMA.

[sisibilio]

being traded to Cavs make a lot of sense.....

yeah until Laker fans say "for Evan Mobley"

Yeah but is it THAT bad of an idea

Yes.
If it was 36 YO LeBron... it still would be a bad idea.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Does it? It allows teams to bottom out quick and their rebuilding depends on them. Cleveland the first time got like 4 top 5 picks in 3 years. If they drafted better, they wouldve been amazing. Miami retooled quickly and the 2nd time Lebron left, Cleveland knocked it out of the park with their top picks. But neither Cleveland or Miami traded picks 5 years out because neither traded for a player of AD's caliber (when healthy). Thats the Lakers problem

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The Cavaliers are 35-23 and way better than the Lakers...

doclinkin and I think FRONT RUNNING is what some players and peeps do.

Me? I want Russell Westbrook to get the last laugh. He's not as good as Lebron but RW has made the most of his gifts and continues to play hard

Lebron might not think the Lakers have a chance OR he might be about to pull off the okie doke

Westbrook deserves better.

Lolling at Bron for the misforune he created for himself is fun, as is lolling at others when Lebron wins. The biggest lol is lolling at people who think WB plays hard. Het plays hard for stats, nothing else. When he starts fighting over screens, rotating well and taking pride on defense, then you can say he plays hard.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/WAS/2021_games.html

When the Wizards were 17-32 last season, "I was once like you," mademan.

Closed out 17-6, almost as if a light switch came on for Russell. HE ALMOST ALONE WILLED the Wizards to the playoffs. He earned his trade gravity/status trend way up.

LAL still has a guy who MIGHT go off in WB.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

yeah until Laker fans say "for Evan Mobley"

mobley leaving for the west coast is an inevitability,,,however it plays out
born there
grew up there
went to school there

So did DeRozan, and he would've stayed in Toronto his whole career if they would've let him.

What kind of popcorn do we pop? Kettle corn? You just KNOW the NBA money gets Mobley brothers in Laker unis.

[hoosierdaddy34]

Lebron went to LA to make movies, he isn't leaving.

Nominated for a Razzie this year.

That ship has sailed.

He has a movie he produced with Adam Sandler coming out in June.

[KuruptedCav]

LeBron thinks he's a master 693D chess player & manipulator through "leaked" info and comments via the media and his cohorts (Klutch), but for me he's only a petulant child who runs away to greener pastures once his demands are not met and he senses a better opportunity somewhere else.

This is one of the main reasons LeBron will never be on the same pedestal as Jordan. It's as simple as that.

Tens of millions of people switch employers for a number of reasons, almost all self-interested, each year. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.


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[gottamakeit]

but toronto is a great city
love it there except i froze off my petunias there in OCTOBER once

Is that a euphemism for something?

[R-DAWG]

They have practically no picks. Nothing but bloated contracts. Trades are nearly impossible with the cap and pick situation.

LeBron builds teams but the necessity for more all the time also destroys teams futures.

Is there any evidence of this happening? Like even once? I always see this, but no team has actually had their futures destroyed. I'm looking at Miami and Cleveland here.

If you look at Miami, they had the best 4 year run of their 30ish year history as a franchise. And they are have a much larger fan base, season ticket base, tv deal, ect as a result of the 4 year run with Lebron when they were the most popular team in the NBA.

And Cleveland fans, would you trade 2016 for anything? for the 4 straight Finals from 15-18. Or the 11 years when Cleveland was basically the center of the NBA universe.

And while 1 championship with the Lakers does not mean the same to Laker fans the way 1 in Cleveland means to Cavs fans, he still delivered.

Lebron has held up his end of the bargain.

[lamscott]

Thanks for the chip Lebron!

Lakers brand is bigger than Lebron. He can go wherever he wants.

[R-DAWG]

I can’t wait for this dude to retire. Dude hops around teams every few years once he realizes they aren’t title contenders for one season. His 4 rings are fraud with the way he switches teams to put himself in title contention. Had he stuck with Cleveland throughout or stayed with the Heat, he would have 2 rings at most. He’s nowhere near MJ. 19 years of all time great longevity for sure but Jordan accomplished more major awards in way less time and didn’t beg stars to join his team and then switching to join other stars.

I think he would be sitting with 5 rings with a roster better suited to win #6 if he stayed with Pat Riley. Miami needed a year or 2 to reset, and 8 straight finals likely wouldn't happen, but look at how things played out. Cleveland built a team around Lebron built for yesterday's NBA and Golden State quickly jumped ahead of them with Durant (while Lebron was giving Tristain Thompson and JR Smith massive deals with the Cavs). Riley would have never let that happen.

I think winning 3 titles in 7 years in Miami was a very, very real possibility (he's won 2 in the 7 years since he left Miami) and I'm sure the HEAT organization would not have a roster in as bad of shape as this current Laker roster. Even with Wade declining and Bosh being forced to retire, I feel this way about the HEAT.

Lebron left Miami for a Cleveland organization where he never trusted the owner, and then joined a Lakers organization, which outside of Lebron signing there in 2018, has been closer to the Knicks and the Kings than one of the better organizations in the league.

[PlayerUp]

Sign and trade Lavine with Patrick Williams for AD....?

Why would the Bulls do this?

[Madhouse]

Sign and trade Lavine with Patrick Williams for AD....?

Why would the Bulls do this?

If Lavine doesn't want to re-up with the Bulls.

[Madhouse]

being traded to Cavs make a lot of sense.....

yeah until Laker fans say "for Evan Mobley"

mobley leaving for the west coast is an inevitability,,,however it plays out
born there
grew up there
went to school there

so?

Cleveland has 7 or so years of control unless Mobley forces his way out which again is unlikely.

(And I'm saying that as a Raptors fan well aware that my rookie is very likely to sign with the Miami Heat in his prime)

The Cavs will keep Mobley until he hits FA.

That's how these things play out even if you already know he won't retire a Cavalier.

[Slim Charless]

Sign and trade Lavine with Patrick Williams for AD....?

Why would the Bulls do this?

If Lavine doesn't want to re-up with the Bulls.

Plus Klutch could work both ends here as they represent Zach, AD and Lebron. If Bron is calling Lavine telling him to come to LA and they get AD on board about returning back home, then Chicago doesn't have a lot of choice in the matter. Healthy AD/Vuc/Lonzo is enough to win the East imo.