SHAMS: Robert Williams has torn meniscus in left knee (out 4-6 weeks)

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Re: SHAMS: Robert Williams has torn meniscus in left knee (out indefinitely) 

Post#101 » by Scalabrine » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:53 pm

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BigDan245 wrote:He'll probably be back by Round 2...Most guys will come back earlier than they should for the playoffs...By Round 2 it should be about a month or so.


Its torn meniscus, hes not returning.


WTF you mean? Torn Meniscus is just about the least severe knee injury. He will be back for round 2 :lol:


Go up a few posts.

Or better yet... find me an NBA player that tore their meniscus and was only out for for a month (first round of playoffs start April 16th, second round will likely start a month from now). Im genuinely curious if it's happened because I can't find it.
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Re: SHAMS: Robert Williams has torn meniscus in left knee (out indefinitely) 

Post#102 » by collidingNeurons » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:54 pm

terrible news and my heart goes out to Celtics fans, hate injuries but especially right before the playoffs and anyone celebrating an injury to any player is a jerk.. This could happen to anyone and hamper the team you root for just as easily, not to mention any team that happens to beat the Celtics if that happens will have to hear all the "if not ..." trolls like it was somehow their team's fault, its a lose/lose situation for everyone and any team with championships aspirations should want to beat the other teams at their best not a hobbled version of that team
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Re: SHAMS: Robert Williams has torn meniscus in left knee (out indefinitely) 

Post#103 » by ajones9219 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:56 pm

Scalabrine wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Its torn meniscus, hes not returning.


WTF you mean? Torn Meniscus is just about the least severe knee injury. He will be back for round 2 :lol:


Go up a few posts.

Or better yet... find me an NBA player that tore their meniscus and was only out for for a month (first round of playoffs start April 16th, second round will likely start a month from now). Im genuinely curious if it's happened because I can't find it.


Embiid missed less than a week bossman. Just depends on the severity of the tear. Grade one could just be a pain management thing until offseason after a few games missed. More likely is something closer to 4-6 weeks which puts him out for the first round. This isn't some sort of death sentence
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Re: SHAMS: Robert Williams has torn meniscus in left knee (out indefinitely) 

Post#104 » by bisme37 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:56 pm

Woj says Rob will decide between two different options for surgery. One could have him back in 4-6 weeks, and the other would be definitely season ending. I'm assuming the 2nd one is the better long term option or of course you'd go for the shorter recovery time.
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Post#105 » by ajones9219 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:58 pm

bisme37 wrote:Woj says Rob will decide between two different options for surgery. One could have him back in 4-6 weeks, and the other would be definitely season ending. I'm assuming the 2nd one is the better long term option or of course you'd go for the shorter recovery time.


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Re: SHAMS: Robert Williams has torn meniscus in left knee (out indefinitely) 

Post#106 » by bisme37 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:00 pm

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bisme37 wrote:Woj says Rob will decide between two different options for surgery. One could have him back in 4-6 weeks, and the other would be definitely season ending. I'm assuming the 2nd one is the better long term option or of course you'd go for the shorter recovery time.


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Re: SHAMS: Robert Williams has torn meniscus in left knee (out indefinitely) 

Post#107 » by basketballRob » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:01 pm

Scalabrine wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Its torn meniscus, hes not returning.


WTF you mean? Torn Meniscus is just about the least severe knee injury. He will be back for round 2


Go up a few posts.

Or better yet... find me an NBA player that tore their meniscus and was only out for for a month (first round of playoffs start April 16th, second round will likely start a month from now). Im genuinely curious if it's happened because I can't find it.
Metta World Peace came back quickly and was never the same after that. Players like JJJ and Wiseman have taken like a year to come back. The problem with the injury is you feel fine right after the surgery but you need to build the muscle around the knee.

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Post#108 » by dribble1614 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:02 pm

celtics wasn't going to win the east anyway, but now they're officially finished. at best they go to the 2nd round but very likely could lose in the 1st round. :nod:
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Post#109 » by Madhouse » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:05 pm

dribble1614 wrote:celtics wasn't going to win the east anyway, but now they're officially finished. at best they go to the 2nd round but very likely could lose in the 1st round. :nod:


Actually they had/have a good chance to win the East. Look at their performances in 2022.
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Re: SHAMS: Robert Williams has torn meniscus in left knee (out indefinitely) 

Post#110 » by Zeno » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:07 pm

bisme37 wrote:Woj says Rob will decide between two different options for surgery. One could have him back in 4-6 weeks, and the other would be definitely season ending. I'm assuming the 2nd one is the better long term option or of course you'd go for the shorter recovery time.

It seems with all meniscus injuries you have two choices, trim or repair. Trim is worse longterm because you are removing a piece of it but are back way quicker and a repair where it seems to take up to a year to come back but is better long term. JJJ and Wiseman had the repair which is why they were gone for a very very long time.
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Re: SHAMS: Robert Williams has torn meniscus in left knee (out indefinitely) 

Post#111 » by ajones9219 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:10 pm

dribble1614 wrote:celtics wasn't going to win the east anyway, but now they're officially finished. at best they go to the 2nd round but very likely could lose in the 1st round. :nod:


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Re: SHAMS: Robert Williams has torn meniscus in left knee (out indefinitely) 

Post#112 » by bisme37 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:17 pm

Don't bother with the dribble person, everyone. I don't know where his/her motivation is coming from but over the last few days he's made it abundantly clear that he has no interest in discussing the Celtics in good faith.
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Re: SHAMS: Robert Williams has torn meniscus in left knee (out indefinitely) 

Post#113 » by bisme37 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:19 pm

Just last night the guys on the Wolves broadcast mentioned that if Rob made about 30 more shots this season he'd qualify as a league leader and had a solid chance at setting the all time record for highest shooting percentage. It's not going to happen now but it was pretty cool when they said it last night lol.

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Re: SHAMS: Robert Williams has torn meniscus in left knee (out indefinitely) 

Post#114 » by MarcusBrody » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:30 pm

Scalabrine wrote:This has been a really rough injury for most. If it requires surgery then he's definitely out for the rest of this year and probably will miss a good chunk of next year too. If it just requires a shaving of it with rest and rehab, then he's gonna be out at least a month, but probably more given the nature of his game and his size. Here are a few recent examples of players with meniscus injuries.

James Wiseman tore his meniscus almost one year ago to the date and still hasn't played.

Jaren Jackson Jr was out for 8-9 months with his meniscus tear.

Al Farouq Aminu tore his meniscus and also needed about a year recovery and never really came back from it. He was only 29 and coming off his best season as a pro when he tore it so it's not like he was on his last legs or anything.

Colin Sexton tore his at the beginning of the season and missed the entire year after resting for a period of time with no luck

Zion Williamson tore his in 2019 and has had a myriad of complications, including knee swelling since.

Dean Wade JUST had surgery on it after hoping it would heal after a period of rest and is not deemed out for the season.

If you can find another example of a guy coming back sooner than I'd love to know but to me, all signs point to him not being back till mid May at the earliest, which is the start of the conference finals. Thats only if he doesn't have to have surgery, which I haven't even seen an example of.

Strictly going off of recent history of this injury, Its more likely that he's done for the season than he comes back. I have no idea the extent or location of the tear though so obviously cant say anything with any level of confidence.


bisme37 wrote:Woj says Rob will decide between two different options for surgery. One could have him back in 4-6 weeks, and the other would be definitely season ending. I'm assuming the 2nd one is the better long term option or of course you'd go for the shorter recovery time.

The options are basically removing the damaged part of the meniscus or trying to stitch it back together and let it heal. For a long time the former was done almost exclusively. Recently research on the importance of the meniscus and new techniques have made repair more possible, but it's still a minority procedure.

I tore mine and had it shaved in the past year. After a month I was cleared, but it took me a few months to feel normal and for extra post activity swelling to subside. And I'm not a large, explosive, world class athlete.

If I was a young, professional athlete, I would absolutely try to have it repaired. Depending on the shape, length, and position of the tear (the more blood gets to the area the better), the prognosis for repair is better/worse, and in a lot of those cases they will recommend taking out the damaged part as chances of success are relatively low. Newer research suggests that repairing is better whenever possible, though, long term and new techniques make it more possible for more types of tear than previously. I know that Williams must be desperate to get back with the team - esp given the run they're on now going into the playoffs - but he's 24 with a hopefully long career ahead of him. He needs to give himself the best chance he can to avoid chronic deterioration shortening his career. He also has access to world class doctors and cutting edge rehab tech. I hope he goes for the repair if it's at all possible.
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Post#115 » by Upperclass » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:34 pm

Whatever Wiseman did he should look into and do the opposite
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Re: SHAMS: Robert Williams has torn meniscus in left knee (out indefinitely) 

Post#116 » by Antinomy » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:43 pm

Welp, 2022 title now has an asterisk for sure.

Amirite?
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Re: SHAMS: Robert Williams has torn meniscus in left knee (out indefinitely) 

Post#117 » by balla345 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:45 pm

Dam fkn sucks if the Heat didnt win I was going all in for the Celtics. Very likable team what a shame.
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Re: SHAMS: Robert Williams has torn meniscus in left knee (out indefinitely) 

Post#118 » by KembaWalker » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:52 pm

I think since he's locked in on the extension he will go for the repair for the long term financial implications at the advice of his agency. I'm sure he himself would prefer the removal and play given the teams standings and the fact that he's locked in a lot of money. Damn that's a tough choice. I don't think the Celtics fanbase can hold it against any player to prioritize their long term health after IT, but I think everyone will mostly be on the same page on this one. He's part of their long term plans
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Re: SHAMS: Robert Williams has torn meniscus in left knee (out indefinitely) 

Post#119 » by Madhouse » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:56 pm

Antinomy wrote:Welp, 2022 title now has an asterisk for sure.

Amirite?


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Re: SHAMS: Robert Williams has torn meniscus in left knee (out indefinitely) 

Post#120 » by FreeThrowLine » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:57 pm

Timing couldn’t be worse, can we just have 1 playoffs with some healthy teams?

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