Harden: “I have nothing to prove in Philly. I don’t feel any pressure.”

John Murdoch · Post #101 » by **John Murdoch** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:14 pm

Eagle4 wrote:Once again can we stop putting this fraud up there with the GOAT SGs.

MJ
Kobe/Wade

Harden.

I dont see how Wade is on the same tier as Kobe

Rendei · Post #102 » by **Rendei** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:26 pm

chrisab123 wrote:
PD28 wrote:
FNQ wrote:0 rings
1 finals appearance (0-1, obviously)
4 conference finals appearances (1-3)
8 conference semi-finals (4-4)

And typically you don't see guys with a 'superstar' moniker being dealt so often. He's on his 4th team now, traded all 3 times, with 2 of the times being because he effectively quit on the team after he wasn't able to push them over the top. He's like the Ricky Davis of superstars, only in it for himself.

So yeah, count me among those who think he has a ton to prove in Philly, and it might be his last chance to prove he can do it as a top player. Because if the PHI thing fizzles out, whats next? Get traded to a treadmill team and have it be their 'star acquisition'?

Harden is right about one thing, the pressure is more on Morey than on him. If this win-now move doesn't pay dividends then Morey sacrificed The Process for a first/second round exit team.

To be fair...the Sixers weren't going to win with Simmons so there's nothing really to sacrifice. Simmons is soft as hell, always has been. He wants to be a celebrity and live in a big market and be seen. He's got the big market now. But until he can learn how to shoot hes going to continue to underwhelm. Is there literally anyone on this board that would have drafted him over Jaylen Brown at this point?

Morey wont be graded on Simmons vs Harden. Simmons was always getting traded, so what mattered was the return. Morey will be graded on Harden vs Haliburton/Hield/Curry/Drummond/picks vs CJ/Covington/Curry/Drummond/picks vs Brogdon/Lavert/Curry/Drummond/picks. Harden has to show up in the playoffs to prove him right.

Eagle4 · Post #103 » by **Eagle4** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:01 pm

John Murdoch wrote:
Eagle4 wrote:Once again can we stop putting this fraud up there with the GOAT SGs.

MJ
Kobe/Wade

Harden.

I dont see how Wade is on the same tier as Kobe

I'd honestly take Wade at their peaks.

RalphWiggum · Post #104 » by **RalphWiggum** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:39 pm

DusterBuster wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Morey really going to max this guy, huh?

He sure is!

Everyone thinks this is a foregone conclusion but I think if Harden **** the bed that whatever wink wink deal Morey had with Harden might not be honored.

MotownMadness · Post #105 » by **MotownMadness** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:48 pm

Au contraire mon frere

DusterBuster · Post #106 » by **DusterBuster** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:59 pm

RalphWiggum wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Morey really going to max this guy, huh?

He sure is!
Everyone thinks this is a foregone conclusion but I think if Harden **** the bed that whatever wink wink deal Morey had with Harden might not be honored.

Nah, Morey has too much loyalty to Harden

tdot_steel · Post #107 » by **tdot_steel** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:49 pm

Harden: Somebody is going to pay me boatload of cash on my next contract for past performance. No pressure!

HDMAVS760CA · Post #108 » by **HDMAVS760CA** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:57 am

Uh yes he does. The antics he pulled in OKC & Brooklyn WILL NOT FLY in philly. Unless he wins a championship with the 6ers, he'll NEVER hear the end of it if he did. I can't remember where I heard of Harden visiting strip clubs during the nba finals...maybe here. He can wait till the season's over to go there. He'd get better treatment if he wins :wink:

rocketsfan100 · Post #109 » by **rocketsfan100** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:31 am

HDMAVS760CA wrote:Uh yes he does. The antics he pulled in OKC & Brooklyn WILL NOT FLY in philly. Unless he wins a championship with the 6ers, he'll NEVER hear the end of it if he did. I can't remember where I heard of Harden visiting strip clubs during the nba finals...maybe here. He can wait till the season's over to go there. He'd get better treatment if he wins

Kendrick Perkins mentioned it.

rocketsfan100 · Post #110 » by **rocketsfan100** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:32 am

22 points 14 assists to 1 turnovers.

Post #111 » by **tsherkin** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:57 am

John Murdoch wrote:I dont see how Wade is on the same tier as Kobe

Because of what he achieved and how good he was? I don't think anyone has his all-time ranking quite as high as Kobe because he wasn't healthy enough and didn't quite reach the breadth of what Kobe accomplished, but Wade was a phenomenal player for quite some time and racked up a lot of the appropriate achievements and recognition.

Johnny Bball · Post #112 » by **Johnny Bball** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:11 pm

PD28 wrote:
FNQ wrote:0 rings
1 finals appearance (0-1, obviously)
4 conference finals appearances (1-3)
8 conference semi-finals (4-4)

And typically you don't see guys with a 'superstar' moniker being dealt so often. He's on his 4th team now, traded all 3 times, with 2 of the times being because he effectively quit on the team after he wasn't able to push them over the top. He's like the Ricky Davis of superstars, only in it for himself.

So yeah, count me among those who think he has a ton to prove in Philly, and it might be his last chance to prove he can do it as a top player. Because if the PHI thing fizzles out, whats next? Get traded to a treadmill team and have it be their 'star acquisition'?

Harden is right about one thing, the pressure is more on Morey than on him. If this win-now move doesn't pay dividends then Morey sacrificed The Process for a first/second round exit team.

Morey will make 2 or 3 years of desperation moves making the team slightly worse to string you along, so he has time.

MavfanAus · Post #113 » by **MavfanAus** » Fri May 13, 2022 4:40 pm

Hey I give him props, at least he played this entire post season with the sane level of f_cks given in this quote of his :lol:

Harden strikes me as the kind of dude that really doesn't care if he wins a championship or not, as long as he has his money to spend on strip clubs.

Blame Rasho · Post #114 » by **Blame Rasho** » Fri May 13, 2022 4:46 pm

MavfanAus wrote:Hey I give him props, at least he played this entire post season with the sane level of f_cks given in this quote of his

Harden strikes me as the kind of dude that really doesn't care if he wins a championship or not, as long as he has his money to spend on strip clubs.

I am sure he saw strippers before the game the night before just like the close out game vs San Antonio when he was with Houston.

heatwillbeback · Post #115 » by **heatwillbeback** » Fri May 13, 2022 4:48 pm

Not shooting or being involved in the second half offense was one thing- and horrendous.

But he also gave up like 3 or so putbacks on simply effort plays. Huge momentum changing plays.

He wasn’t engaged and had lost interest in the game. He has a habit of this.

Optms · Post #116 » by **Optms** » Fri May 13, 2022 4:50 pm

Eagle4 wrote:
John Murdoch wrote:
Eagle4 wrote:Once again can we stop putting this fraud up there with the GOAT SGs.

MJ
Kobe/Wade

Harden.

I dont see how Wade is on the same tier as Kobe
I'd honestly take Wade at their peaks.

Wade didn't have the mamba mentality. Kobe by default.

Joker · Post #117 » by **Joker** » Fri May 13, 2022 4:52 pm

peak wade was as good or better than Kobe. The stats reflect that. Eye test too. Kobe wins on longevity though.

Quattro · Post #118 » by **Quattro** » Fri May 13, 2022 4:53 pm

Well, mission accomplished. He didn’t prove anything.

Optms · Post #119 » by **Optms** » Fri May 13, 2022 4:53 pm

Joker wrote:peak wade was as good or better than Kobe. The stats reflect that.

The stats also reflect Harden being better than Wade. But we all know that isn't true.

Post #120 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Fri May 13, 2022 4:57 pm

Optms wrote:
Eagle4 wrote:
John Murdoch wrote:
I dont see how Wade is on the same tier as Kobe
I'd honestly take Wade at their peaks.

Wade didn't have the mamba mentality. Kobe by default.

Oh man. “Mamba mentality” will never not be hilarious.