CP3 Goes 14/14 FG in a closeout game

[Capn'O]

The way he can still get to his spots without much burst makes it look like he can play well into his 40s. He's pulling "that old dude at the gym who still has game" moves with NBA players

[dhsilv2]

Magic, Curry, and IT are the only players on your list I'd take over CP3.

People say this but what concrete rational do they have for it? Over guys like 2 time MVP Steve Nash or Oscar MVP and champ, west fmvp, IT two time fmvp, AI MVP.
Cp3 while i have said is a 1st ballot Hof lacks both individual accolades or team accolades. He has good stats and impact to winning (though apparently not enough) but so does everyone else.

Then when it's LeBron vs Jordan it's all about individual and team accolades.

You clearly spend to much time looking at accolades as opposed to watching games. I can’t speak on west / Oscar since I’ve seen neither play. But cp3 is better than everyone in your list save for magic.

Curry & isiah id listen to an argument on


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If he had he'd have realized only 2 guys on his list have more all nba selections, and that might change after this year, not sure if that list has been released yet. But he's got 10 all nba selections. His 9 all defensive selections matches Kidd and Payton, nobody has more. He can certainly claim West, Oscar, and Magic have more individual accolades. Nobody else have an obvious argument for better individual accolades.

[og15]

Amazing game by CP3 last night. Makes me wonder why he doesnt/never has consistently do that more often (not go 14-14, but take over as a scorer). Thats been my knock on him forever, toi many times hes been a passive scorer and deferred in big games/moments. He can clearly take over scoring, but hasnt done it enough and has historically lost as a result to more aggressive scoring stars. Amazing stuff last night, still hate him though.

If he takes 14 FGA he's not going to be taking over with scoring on average because that will yield more like 19-20 points the average night, not 30+. Also he's 6'0 and doesn't have top tier stamina, is also putting energy into ball handling, playmaking and defense, and he has to work for all his baskets since it's mostly on ball. He doesn't have that Iverson v02, not everyone is born with that, so he would wear down. But if you look at closeout games recently, he's had 30+ vs New Orleans, Denver, LAC, vs Utah with Houston, had 27 in game 6 loss vs GS after the rest of the series being relatively quiet. Even vs Milwaukee, he was 26 pts in game 6

Booker is hilarious. "I believe in the heat check. 14/15 looks a lot better than 14/14" LMAO

Haha, the heat check is slightly flawed reasoning that all us hoppers (who are scorers or shooters) fall into. It's like I'm creating good shots and making them, then let me go take a contested bad shot because I'm on fire. The logic is not the best, but when you make it...and then make another, it is sweet lol

[og15]

Unreal game. But makes you worry why they only won by a few points. If Suns want to beat GSW they're gonna need aggressive CP3 for each game.

They were +17 in his minutes though, so if they have that and lose vs GS, then it actually means they need more from someone like Payne or Shamet. They will need his scoring though, but I'm assuming they will have a healthier Booker is they are to get that far and beat Dallas.

[tsherkin]

They were +17 in his minutes though, so if they have that and lose vs GS, then it actually means they need more from someone like Payne or Shamet. They will need his scoring though, but I'm assuming they will have a healthier Booker is they are to get that far and beat Dallas.

Ye, at some point they are going to need the team to be healthy and clicking when they start facing stiffer competition. It's nice that Booker's back, but he's going to have to limber up and find his RS offensive form in order for the Suns to go deep. Which is no grand revelation, of course.

[MikeJax]

Best 37 year old in the league

[Onus]

Haha, the heat check is slightly flawed reasoning that all us hoppers (who are scorers or shooters) fall into. It's like I'm creating good shots and making them, then let me go take a contested bad shot because I'm on fire. The logic is not the best, but when you make it...and then make another, it is sweet lol

Definitely. When you start feeling it you're like let me try some **** and see how hot I am exactly. Which is why it's funny to hear Booker say it out loud.

[tsherkin]

Haha, the heat check is slightly flawed reasoning that all us hoppers (who are scorers or shooters) fall into. It's like I'm creating good shots and making them, then let me go take a contested bad shot because I'm on fire. The logic is not the best, but when you make it...and then make another, it is sweet lol

Definitely. When you start feeling it you're like let me try some **** and see how hot I am exactly. Which is why it's funny to hear Booker say it out loud.

It's frustrating when players do that. I get it, when you play the game you just try to "feel" it, but it's almost always the wrong move. Drives coaches mad, lol.

[Onus]

Haha, the heat check is slightly flawed reasoning that all us hoppers (who are scorers or shooters) fall into. It's like I'm creating good shots and making them, then let me go take a contested bad shot because I'm on fire. The logic is not the best, but when you make it...and then make another, it is sweet lol

Definitely. When you start feeling it you're like let me try some **** and see how hot I am exactly. Which is why it's funny to hear Booker say it out loud.

It's frustrating when players do that. I get it, when you play the game you just try to "feel" it, but it's almost always the wrong move. Drives coaches mad, lol.

Oh yea as a coach they probably hate it. Just absolutely throws away the game plan and you end up taking horrible shot after horrible shot until you miss ... hopefully

[tsherkin]

Oh yea as a coach they probably hate it. Just absolutely throws away the game plan and you end up taking horrible shot after horrible shot until you miss ... hopefully

Kobe was brutal about that. At least Steph is a) a really good 3pt shooter and b) usually takes them when he's got a good, open (for him) look. His release is stupid fast, like 0.4 seconds, so he can actually get off a full, unaltered look with minimal space and time. And of course lots of players other than Kobe used to do this and I always used to want to toss something at them every time, lmao.

[Onus]

Oh yea as a coach they probably hate it. Just absolutely throws away the game plan and you end up taking horrible shot after horrible shot until you miss ... hopefully

Kobe was brutal about that. At least Steph is a) a really good 3pt shooter and b) usually takes them when he's got a good, open (for him) look. His release is stupid fast, like 0.4 seconds, so he can actually get off a full, unaltered look with minimal space and time. And of course lots of players other than Kobe used to do this and I always used to want to toss something at them every time, lmao.

It makes for great entertainment but yea in the playoffs and you're trying to win you can almost guarantee that a possession is going to get wasted and it can be maddening.

[tsherkin]

It makes for great entertainment but yea in the playoffs and you're trying to win you can almost guarantee that a possession is going to get wasted and it can be maddening.

Yeah, RS when you're playing a garbage team and you're feeling it, that's one thing. Fun for the fans if it starts falling, for sure.

[trueballer7]

Imagine how bad the level of play in the NBA has become that a geriatric midget does stuff he never managed to do when he was young.

[tsherkin]

Imagine how bad the level of play in the NBA has become that a geriatric midget does stuff he never managed to do when he was young.

Imagine a take so hot, you ignore whatactually happened, lol. Did you not watch what he was actually doing? Getting defenders backpedaling as he comes around a screen, then stopping faster than they can and pulling up outside of the paint? And always, the threat of his passing. Handles, hesitation and timing. They account for a lot and always have.

[Woodsanity]

Imagine how bad the level of play in the NBA has become that a geriatric midget does stuff he never managed to do when he was young.

Pretty laughable take if you legitimately believe this.

[Baski]

This thread deserves to stay on the front page. Chris Paul continues to bless us with his talents and I'm so happy to see him flourishing on yet another team. James Harden couldn't stomach his ego enough to make it work with Chris **** Paul. WOW