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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#101 » by gmoney411 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:39 pm

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LarsV8 wrote:That's a damn shame right there.

Damn, damn shame.


Damn, damn, damn shame.
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Post#102 » by TroubleS0me » Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:40 pm

Parataxis wrote:Man, remember when them signing Kyrie and KD was going to lead to an unstoppable dynasty for at least a half decade? And when getting Harden was just going to seal the deal?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#103 » by Yuri Vaultin » Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:48 pm

He deserves the Kings and Vivek deserves Kyrie.

Sorry King fans.

Side note: I'm not sure if there's a team desperate enough to deal with Kyrie off the floor despite what he does the rare occasions he actually plays.
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#104 » by TeamTragic » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:14 am

Kyrie to the Knicks would make sense. Expectations are already really low :lol:
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Post#105 » by ThatBoyNick » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:18 am

gmoney411 wrote:
red96 wrote:
LarsV8 wrote:That's a damn shame right there.

Damn, damn shame.


Damn, damn, damn shame.


Terrible really
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Post#106 » by HMFFL » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:26 am

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zshawn10 wrote:[Stephen A. Smith] Kyrie Irving last season would conduct his own team practices after Steve Nash


That's pretty weird
Very odd.
Kyrie being Kyrie! Coach Kyrie probably expects a full max and side pay for Coaching.

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Post#107 » by Pharmcat » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:27 am

Yuri Vaultin wrote:He deserves the Kings and Vivek deserves Kyrie.

Sorry King fans.

Side note: I'm not sure if there's a team desperate enough to deal with Kyrie off the floor despite what he does the rare occasions he actually plays.


Lakers are desperate
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#108 » by HMFFL » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:27 am

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Texas Chuck wrote:I'm curious if a Kyrie exit leads to KD also asking out since they came as a package. But it goes to the downside of assembling superstars. Many of these guys are difficult to deal with on multiple levels and they went from 3 to now maybe 1 or 0 in short order.


It seems likely since KD wanted the Nets because of Irving . I’m not sure what’s the friendship between Simmons and Durant but even then if they are ok with each other it doesn’t change Ben Simmons noted back issues. For whatever people believe about Simmons mental issues the back injury could continue to be a major issue longterm and lowers his value.
If Simmons is there without Kyrie and Kevin Durant I expect him to sit out for the rest of his contract.

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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#109 » by shza » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:35 am

Wait, I thought Kyrie was supposed to be taking over the GM role at the Nets -- is that now not going to be happening either?

Thibs/Kyrie pairing may be the most mouthwateringly can't-look-away prospect out there . . . .
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Post#110 » by CS707 » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:42 am

Brooklyn could gut it and rebuild pretty quickly I think. KD should bring a good return and it’s still NY. Too bad they don’t own their own picks.
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Post#111 » by Calamity_Cometh » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:02 am

This really degraded into a shtshow
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#112 » by SelfishPlayer » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:09 am

Good, let Brooklyn return to being worse than the Knicks. That organization never earned it, and stood in the way of New York city regarding Kyrie.
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#113 » by SelfishPlayer » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:10 am

gst8 wrote:Brooklyn could gut it and rebuild pretty quickly I think. KD should bring a good return and it’s still NY. Too bad they don’t own their own picks.


What does that mean?
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#114 » by TheLand13 » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:14 am

marson wrote:Healthy Kyrie as a duo for Jimmy Butler would be lethal.

But I'm not sure if Heat Culture can straighten him up lol


I would need a week to explain everything wrong with this idea.
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Post#115 » by slicedbread2 » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:15 am

gst8 wrote:Brooklyn could gut it and rebuild pretty quickly I think. KD should bring a good return and it’s still NY. Too bad they don’t own their own picks.


All their picks are the following owed to Houston:

23: swap
24: Houston
25: swap
26: Houston
27: swap.

All unprotected which is insane considering how badly this blew up in their face and it's Joseph Tsai's fault to begin with when he canned Atkinson to placate Deandre Jordan of all people because he wasn't happy with Jarrett Allen getting playing time over him. He learned nothing from the Mikhail Prohkorov debacle and instead of letting his GM Sean Marks who was doing a phenomenal job for the most part run the team, he went full Vivek and it's gonna cost this team dearly.

Honestly they were better off avoiding Harden and just trading that load to get out of DJ's contract while bringing in Eric Gordon, Ben Simmons and filler(keep in mind this was Simmons before that meltdown in 21)+they'd have kept Jarrett Allen if they had simply allowed Philly to blow their load on Harden who let himself go in the worse way possible.

As you said though they could easily rebuild and flip dudes to cut their losses and try to pivot towards getting as much draft capital as possible in the event Durant asks out but we'll see.
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#116 » by Derrickt » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:16 am

So the Nets are phasing out one of their "management"?
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#117 » by SichtingLives » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:37 am

Every marriage has it's up and downs, you don't just bail when times get tough. I'd like to see a 10-15 year extension worked out between the two sides, and let's be real, just hand the keys to Ky-genius and let him waft his magical sagebrush as player-coach-GM. Brooklyn is a fantastic franchise and Kyrie is a transmental talent. You hate to see these two split up over petty grievances. When Kyrie's cooking in the regular season he's one of the best 1 on 1 players in the game. Brooklyn would be nuts to let that go.
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#118 » by JimmyPlopper » Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:17 am

I was thinking about potential teams that could fit. While none seem to be perfect, I wondered about something like this:

Pelicans trade:
Jonas Valanciunas
Devonte' Graham
Garrett Temple (waived)
Willy Hernangomez (waived)
Naji Marshall

for Kyrie (opted into final year of deal)

Kyrie Irving / Kira Lewis Jr
CJ McCollum / Grand Theft Alvarado
Brandon Ingram / Trey Murphy III
Zion Williamson / Herb Jones
Larry Nance Jr. / Jaxson Hayes

Ben Simmons / Patty Mills
Seth Curry / Devonte' Graham / Cam Thomas
Joe Harris / Naji Marshall
Kevin Durant / Blake Griffin
Jonas Valanciunas / Nic Claxton / Day'Ron Sharpe
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#119 » by JimmyPlopper » Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:21 am

JimmyPlopper wrote:I was thinking about potential teams that could fit. While none seem to be perfect, I wondered about something like this:

Pelicans trade:
Jonas Valanciunas
Devonte' Graham
Garrett Temple (waived)
Willy Hernangomez (waived)
Naji Marshall

for Kyrie (opted into final year of deal)

Kyrie Irving / Kira Lewis Jr
CJ McCollum / Grand Theft Alvarado
Brandon Ingram / Trey Murphy III
Zion Williamson / Herb Jones
Larry Nance Jr. / Jaxson Hayes

Ben Simmons / Patty Mills
Seth Curry / Devonte' Graham / Cam Thomas
Joe Harris / Naji Marshall
Kevin Durant / Blake Griffin
Jonas Valanciunas / Nic Claxton / Day'Ron Sharpe
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#120 » by sp6r=underrated » Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:02 am

gst8 wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:Not many teams with cap space this offseason

You've got to think Kyrie opts in for 22/23 before the June 29 deadline


I'm thinking the same. It's probably the best move for both sides. He could recoup a lot of value just by playing an incident free season and hit FA with a lot more leverage than he has right now. I'm sure the Nets would love to get one more season out of him before having to make any decisions about the future too.



This is sound thinking. He's missed a majority of the possible games over the last 3 years. If he comes back plays a mostly full season, has a good playoff run in the middle of a good run for the Nets (ECF+) his stock will go way up and he can probably get the full max in a city he likes.

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