Bradley Beal Will Opt Out of $36.4M Player Option; Will Enter Free Agency; Pelton: Expected to re-sign with Wizards

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Re: Bradley Beal Will Opt Out of $36.4M Player Option; Will Enter Free Agency; Pelton: Expected to re-sign with Wizards 

Post#101 » by TheWhiteMamba » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:37 am

Wizards are a bunch of fools if they supermax him. He's a great player but the Wizards actually don't need him, and if I understand correctly the CBA, you can't trade a player supermaxed before 1 year. What happens if Beal (I hope not) gets injured? His trade value (already limited by his enormous salary) will evaporate, and Washington will be stucked in another John Wall situation...
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Re: Bradley Beal Will Opt Out of $36.4M Player Option; Will Enter Free Agency; Pelton: Expected to re-sign with Wizards 

Post#102 » by JDR720 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:43 am

Beal on a supermax is just as bad as Wall's contract was/is.

Washington need to learn to either let these guys go or trade them instead of giving them stupid contracts.
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Re: Bradley Beal Will Opt Out of $36.4M Player Option; Will Enter Free Agency; Pelton: Expected to re-sign with Wizards 

Post#103 » by John Murdoch » Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:08 pm

I dont have a prob with a player staying wheres hes comfortable, however my concern is that he doesnt really ever apply pressure to the FO to make the team an actual contender. That tells me its more " Big Fish small pond" syndrome. Dude doesnt want any competition for the best player on his own team.
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Post#104 » by DrCoach » Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:30 pm

Must be nice to confidently turn down 36 mil
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Post#105 » by Laimbeer » Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:49 pm

TheWhiteMamba wrote:Wizards are a bunch of fools if they supermax him. He's a great player but the Wizards actually don't need him, and if I understand correctly the CBA, you can't trade a player supermaxed before 1 year. What happens if Beal (I hope not) gets injured? His trade value (already limited by his enormous salary) will evaporate, and Washington will be stucked in another John Wall situation...


Couldn't that happen with any player?
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Re: Bradley Beal Will Opt Out of $36.4M Player Option; Will Enter Free Agency; Pelton: Expected to re-sign with Wizards 

Post#106 » by TheWhiteMamba » Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:54 pm

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TheWhiteMamba wrote:Wizards are a bunch of fools if they supermax him. He's a great player but the Wizards actually don't need him, and if I understand correctly the CBA, you can't trade a player supermaxed before 1 year. What happens if Beal (I hope not) gets injured? His trade value (already limited by his enormous salary) will evaporate, and Washington will be stucked in another John Wall situation...


Couldn't that happen with any player?

Yes but there's IMHO a huge difference between when you sign a player that you need, and he gets injured, and the situation where you sign a player only to wait when it's possible to trade him de facto wasting a year in the rebuild process. If they sign&trade him with a normal max contract, I'm perfectly fine with that.
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Post#108 » by kenwood3333 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:11 pm

Sign and trade him for picks/young prospects
Wizards going no where with him
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Post#109 » by xdrta+ » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:32 pm

TheWhiteMamba wrote:Wizards are a bunch of fools if they supermax him. He's a great player but the Wizards actually don't need him, and if I understand correctly the CBA, you can't trade a player supermaxed before 1 year. What happens if Beal (I hope not) gets injured? His trade value (already limited by his enormous salary) will evaporate, and Washington will be stucked in another John Wall situation...


This is true, but it doesn't apply to Beal since he's not actually signing a "supermax." Beal has reached 10 yr vet status so he is eligible for 35% of the cap, the same as a supermax, so the money is the same but it is a regular max contract. He would be able to be traded the same as any other FA signing, Dec 15 most likely.
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Post#110 » by Effigy » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:33 pm

If the Wizards are smart, and they're not, they should give Beal permission to look for a sign and trade. Get something for him, don't get stuck with that contract. Rebuild and see if you can get Victor next year.
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Post#111 » by j_n » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:41 pm

He stays with his team and everyone calls him a loser that doesn't care about winning, he leaves his team and everyone calls him a loser that has to join other stars in order to win.

Or maybe people just expect him to take a pay cut for some reason instead of trying to get as much as his he can like 99% of the people would in his situation.
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Post#112 » by edmunder_prc » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:47 pm

j_n wrote:He stays with his team and everyone calls him a loser that doesn't care about winning, he leaves his team and everyone calls him a loser that has to join other stars in order to win.

Or maybe people just expect him to take a pay cut for some reason instead of trying to get as much as his he can like 99% of the people would in his situation.



All the people overwhelming understand asking for $50 million a year means he gave up on winning and just wants money.

Beal wasnt winning before and he certainly wont be winning in the future.
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Post#113 » by j_n » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:11 pm

edmunder_prc wrote:
j_n wrote:He stays with his team and everyone calls him a loser that doesn't care about winning, he leaves his team and everyone calls him a loser that has to join other stars in order to win.

Or maybe people just expect him to take a pay cut for some reason instead of trying to get as much as his he can like 99% of the people would in his situation.



All the people overwhelming understand asking for $50 million a year means he gave up on winning and just wants money.

Beal wasnt winning before and he certainly wont be winning in the future.

So what should he do to meet your standards? take a paycut? his team will be over the cap anyway, so it would only make him easier to trade away.
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Re: Bradley Beal Will Opt Out of $36.4M Player Option; Will Enter Free Agency; Pelton: Expected to re-sign with Wizards 

Post#114 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:53 pm

Old man thoughts:
1. It is crazy Beal has 10 years of experience and is only 28.
2. A guy with only 1 3rd All-NBA after 10 years is going to get essentially the max and have one the largest contracts ever (largest?). This guy never led his team to the conference finals.
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Post#115 » by poultryfan » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:04 pm

kenwood3333 wrote:Sign and trade him for picks/young prospects
Wizards going no where with him

The return will be too low for the Wizards liking. Better to just sit on his contract then trade him later to a team desperate to win.
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Post#116 » by OdomFan » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:06 pm

Really wish the WIzards had better management.
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Post#117 » by WashWiz54 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:35 pm

It may be semantics to some, but I wouldn’t be so quick to blame management, this reeks of ownership.

By using Tommy Sheppard’s past moves, he seems like he is on the level to know Beal is not worth the super max. The majority of us believe that Ted Leonsis made re-signing Beal a non-discussion. Re-sign him at any and all cost.

Beal should of been traded a couple years ago, but mediocrity is the goal and we’re pretty good at it. In a year or so’s time, Beal will be demanding a trade, he’ll probably be playing nowhere near his contract and we are going to take a a big hit in assets to accommodate request.

I hope somehow it works out, but all signs point to this being a bad move. My dream is somehow this turns into a S&T and we can get out of this with at least some value. Not nearly as much as we could of two years ago, but that’s spilt milk at this point.
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Post#118 » by Chuck Everett » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:42 pm

If the Wizards fans don't care, why should I? Not because paying Brad sucks. It's because we don't win even with him. He's not a needle mover like that for them. They are back to square one even with him.
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Post#119 » by Clav » Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:01 pm

His resume does not reflect this type of compensation. That contract total is a franchise handicap, and if the Wiz sign it, good luck with having a competent roster to fill out the squad.

Would be better to accept 4/160 and that's even too much. If going off his play, I would stop short of 100 M - total investment. Send him to FA and good luck.

WASH can get wing production that Beal is supplying for half his desired income. AND solidify their glaring need, team defense and Point-of-attack initiation with the other half.
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Post#120 » by Edrees » Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:25 pm

OdomFan wrote:Really wish the WIzards had better management.


They got Kuzma and KCP and a first round pick for Westbrook. Certaintly better management than ours

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