Cam Thomas fined for anti-gay remark

[KyRo23]

He didn't lie though. They did have some good looking dudes, no hetero

[Bad-Thoma]

Lol at the people who are mad at the NBA for this. He said the word "homo" in an interview after the game, which is a derogatory term for gay people. Preceding it with "no" isn't a way to say your straight, it's a way to say "I'm not a homo". I say this with zero outrage at Cam for saying it, he messed up and owned it right away and I don't think it in any way came from a place of hate, but of course the NBA has to fine him for this.

[babyjax13]

Sometimes I think "we should do an AMA for the seven gay guys on the forum," just so that in response to every dumbass question we could say "shut the **** up." But, that would give me carpal tunnel, so I'm not volunteering.

Here's the tldr: if you are straight, don't say no homo.

It's not that it is necessarily hateful, rather it's annoying almost all the time, and actually hateful some of the time (+ homo is a derogatory term). If you have a really good friend who is gay, and this is how your friend group jokes with each other & that is something comfortable for everyone, go right ahead - but certainly don't talk like that in a professional environment.

[ShootersShoot]

Unprofessional? Yes. Anti gay? No..

[alebaba]

I never understood the outrage with "no homo", its not anti-gay.

Its basically just hetero males getting it straight that they don't play for the other team after making a remark that could give gay men the wrong message. We don't want them getting the wrong message. Its just proper communication. Keep doing you, Mr Cam Thomas. The NBA should know better. But of course not.

“Homo” is obviously a well-known slur for gay people and it’s just disingenuous to pretend otherwise.

Does intent matter? Lot of kids, and some young adults use 'gay' as a kind of insult toward things they don't like (i.e 'thats gay') without intending it to be a homophonic insult on gay people. Most of these people are probably not anti-gay, and certainly saying that alone doesn't indicate that they are. I wouldnt call those people homophobic and wouldnt make them apologize if they werent intending to insult someone gay specifically.

They're kids and ignorant about it, I used the f and g words all the time when I was a kid, I know better now as an adult. Just because there's no intend behind the words, doesnt make the word less offensive to other people.

[sfernald]

I never understood the outrage with "no homo", its not anti-gay.

Its basically just hetero males getting it straight that they don't play for the other team after making a remark that could give gay men the wrong message. We don't want them getting the wrong message. Its just proper communication. Keep doing you, Mr Cam Thomas. The NBA should know better. But of course not.

you have to understand it's not about "protecting" gay people. corporations don't care about anyone including gay people. but gay people can be used to shield a corporation from criticism.

the same way Apple will show you a lot of rainbow flags but there are suicide nets on the factories where the chinese slaves make the computers. if the corporation talks about how they love gay people you aren't allowed to criticize them or you can be slandered with homophobe/racist/etc.

it's similar to why there are now women commentators on all sports even though obviously there shouldn't be. it's just another thing meant to disrespect you and demoralize you so you don't believe men can ever stand up for themselves, so you aren't motivated to fight back, and ultimately it's part of a strategy to deprive you of you rights and turn you into an amazon slave.

Being an Amazon slave is almost a quaint happy notion now. They won't need us at all soon with the way AI is progressing... I'm not sure who will be able to afford to buy anything though once all our jobs are replaced.

[BobbyPortisEyes]

No homo is a lot less annoying than "pause" imo

[UglyBugBall]

“Homo” is obviously a well-known slur for gay people and it’s just disingenuous to pretend otherwise.

Does intent matter? Lot of kids, and some young adults use 'gay' as a kind of insult toward things they don't like (i.e 'thats gay') without intending it to be a homophonic insult on gay people. Most of these people are probably not anti-gay, and certainly saying that alone doesn't indicate that they are. I wouldnt call those people homophobic and wouldnt make them apologize if they werent intending to insult someone gay specifically.

They're kids and ignorant about it, I used the f and g words all the time when I was a kid, I know better now as an adult. Just because there's no intend behind the words, doesnt make the word less offensive to other people.

The problem is that if we define acceptable language by what's inoffensive to everyone else we're going to be left with very few words left.

[Lalouie]

things are just starting.
i'm waiting for a ja followup.

where's kenesaw/stern when you need them.

[slick_watts]

intent doesn't matter at all. the nba doesn't want its players making these sort of remarks because it could be harmful to their brand image. 40k fine will remind cam thomas of that.

[Not2BeBothered]

“No Homo” is not anti gay

[Charlesareed]

That sucks no homo has been used for over 40 years why and how is it a anti gay comment smh

[mastermixer]

Watch on YouTube

[Jkam31]

Same league the days governors not owners lmao

[Gusto1903]

Didnt Roy Hibbert get suspended for using "pause"

[Pachinko_]

What? How is homo a derogatory term? I thought homo is literally the abbreviation of homosexual, which is a scientific term.

[Pachinko_]

intent doesn't matter at all. the nba doesn't want its players making these sort of remarks because it could be harmful to their brand image. 40k fine will remind cam thomas of that.

What? No, intent and context definitely matters.
Otherwise any time you say the word "woman", "Asian" or "homosexual" you are immediately "misogynist", "racist" and "anti gay" regardless of WTF you are actually saying. You can't call someone misogynist because he called a woman a woman, you have to prove he did it with a malicious intend to demean, and the burden of the proof falls on the person making the accusation. It is actually insulting to call someone "misogynist", "racist", "anti gay" etc, you can't just throw those things around at people.

[Jkam31]

Shame on ESPN for creating a headline calling this an “anti-gay” remark. A total lie trying to tarnish Cam Thomas’ reputation. Why can’t he sue them again for flat out lieing?

Saying you are not something does not equal being against that thing. Unless human language has changed.

If I say I’m not Black, is that anti black?

It’s just ludicrous. Does anybody know anybody, a gay person who is offended at “no homo” ?

It’s fake outrage and shame on the NBA for catering to it. Then people wonder why athletes sound like robots in interviews and have no personality.

But hey, players can tweet all they want about murder, degrading language in other ways, and who cares right. “No homo” is so much more damaging. SMH

Watch on YouTube

[Karate Diop]

No homo is a lot less annoying than "pause" imo

Do people actually say "Pause"? Any links to someone saying it? I've never heard this in my life... Am I just old?

[slick_watts]

intent doesn't matter at all. the nba doesn't want its players making these sort of remarks because it could be harmful to their brand image. 40k fine will remind cam thomas of that.

What? No, intent and context definitely matters.
Otherwise any time you say the word "woman", "Asian" or "homosexual" you are immediately "misogynist", "racist" and "anti gay" regardless of WTF you are actually saying. You can't call someone misogynist because he called a woman a woman, you have to prove he did it with a malicious intend to demean, and the burden of the proof falls on the person making the accusation. It is actually insulting to call someone "misogynist", "racist", "anti gay" etc, you can't just throw those things around at people.

the nba did not use the phrase 'anti-gay'. the nba is not making a value judgment on cam thomas as a person, his thoughts, or his beliefs. it sounds like you have a personal problem that has nothing to do with this situation.

the nba described cam thomas' remark as "deragatory and disparaging language". that is what he is being fined for. not anything about him as a person. you can disagree on whether 'no homo' fits that description, but your opinion doesn't matter. nba players are subject to behavioral guidelines which protect the nba's brand image, and the nba is free to impose discipline on players who violate those guidelines.

any further, silly culture war accoutrements you assign to the nba's decision are meaningless. reporters called it 'anti-gay'. meh, that is the reporter's opinion. has nothing to do with the nba.