What should the NBA do with Draymond Green?

[bisme37]

I wonder how Steve Kerr resolves his narrative of being classy and a better person and him looking the other way with Draymond's actions on the court.....

In the postgame he pretended he had no idea what happened.

[The Rebel]

I wonder how Steve Kerr resolves his narrative of being classy and a better person and him looking the other way with Draymond's actions on the court.....

He don't have to resolve it the media will never call him on it, especially since they ignore Draymond's antics as well.

[Jerry Maine]

There’s no such thing as a “accidental stomp”,

When you're tripped you are forced to plant the other foot immediately.

Again, I'm leaning towards this being a dirty play by Green, but I can understand why some posters see it as the unintended outcome of a trip

[Jerry Maine]

And the poll is kinda meaningless given it's Dray, he's not exactly going to get a fair trial around here

[dhsilv2]

Love was suspended 2 games for a stomp that did not look as bad as this. Plus Draymond has a history of dirty plays. He should get 2+ games. My guess is he'll get 1.

Love just straight up stomped on him with no contact from scola. That seems way worse to me.

Disagree. Dray's was clearly an intentional stomp and then jumping off his chest. That combined with the taunting of fans makes it worthy of a multigame suspension for me.

Dray's left foot was under Sabonis's leg while Sabonis held his right leg as he was moving past him. Sabonis was trying very clearly to take Dray down on that play. Could dray have stepped over? Maybe...but I'm not sure. Dray's incredibly uncoordinated. Now I'm not even remotely saying he didn't clearly take this as open season on Sabonis. But he didn't set out to have a guy try and take his legs out from under him.

[infinite11285]

I think Draymond will get one game.

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Sabonis held on so tightly to Green's foot that Green lifted Sabonis off the ground while trying to run away. Where was Green's foot supposed to land in the heat of the moment?

It is yet to be proven that Sabonis intentionally held onto Draymond...
I think he was bracing his own head and got tangled up with Draymond's legs. Doesn't seem like Sabonis could have even registered who was was towering above him, let alone decided to hold up a player.

This is simply a bad-faith argument. You can't be serious.

Draymond has the obligation to de-escalate. If he's being held, get the refs attention. Pull away rather than stomp. I think Draymond had plenty of time and awareness to chose his response. he chose violence.

Another bad-faith argument. Sabonis grabs and holds onto Green's foot, yet it's Green's obligation to de-escalate?! This abdicates Sabonis's responsibility for creating the situation by grabbing Green's foot.

How do you know Green chose violence while he was physically being tripped up? He's already falling in the image, and remember, this is the second time Sabonis pulled Green down to the ground and held him.

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Giving so much deference to Sabonis while granting Green absolutely none is rather striking. Why do you believe Sabonis could not make the same spur-of-the-moment split decisions you expect Green to make?

[Bobbymcgee]

Well, the NBA didn't do anything when he knocked out his own teammate on camera, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't do anything about this either.

Also, I am sure Steve "soapbox" Kerr is going to find some lame excuse for Green's ridiculous and dangerous behavior yet again.

Every time Green acts out like this and gets away with it the Warriors organization loses more and more respect and credibility.

The NBA, the Warriors organization and Kerr are all cowards if they let Green get away with yet another violent outburst that is more fitting for a child throwing a tantrum than a grown man representing the NBA and the Warriors.

Green obviously has serious anger issues that he needs to learn to deal with but won't because it looks like everyone is afraid to hold him accountable.

[bisme37]

I didn't think Draymond could shock me anymore but I was SHOCKED when he did the stomp. Like what???

Then I saw the Sabonis leg grab and I was at least considering that Draymond had to put his foot somewhere and it was kinda sorta accidental.

But he put so much force into it like a springboard diver. It was not an accident. He was mad about the ankle grab (still is apparently) and retaliated.

Then his behavior with the crowd afterwards and his comments to the press and his stupid social media posts and asking for an X-ray on his ankle. Absolutely absurd and should get a suspension.

[celtxman]

Multiple games possibly going into next year.
Forget the actual play. So it's OK to get up, grab your crotch, incite fans? And then the water bottle comes flying in and hits Green?
If Stern was Commisioner this would have been handled years ago.

[Woodsanity]

He has a history of doing **** like this so he doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt. 2 game suspension minimum.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

I'd say just one game. Sabonis did grab his leg but that's still zero excuse for stopping on him.

I don't really have any issue with what happened between him and the crowd. I mean Irving flipped off fans last year in Boston and he just got a fine.

Regardless the NBA isn't going to suspend him.

[Birth of the Cool]

He needs at least 2 games suspension. Consider just the foot stomp alone is bad enough, but he was over the top with the fans and considering his long history of crossing the line they need to do something or makes Silver continue to look weak and sets a bad precedent on what is and what is not allowed without suspension.

[CobraCommander]

Green has done worse in the past without a suspension, so don't see one happening here.
Dirtiest player in the league by a country mile, and has been for years.
Did Kerr give any lectures about "the code" post game by any chance?

Like what?

[FlyingArrow]

I like Curry, but I dislike Green enough to want to see the Warriors get swept.

[Capn'O]

That's some dirty ****. He needs to be suspended hard.

[Nate505]

An absolute minimum of two, but his antics after the play should really get him another two, or four total.

[TravisScott55]

How much should Sabonis get for grabbing his ankle?

[mccluskey]

No suspension. Sabonis initiated the entire situation with a blatant non basketball play by double arm locking Greens ankle while in transition. A move that is absolutely dangerous and uncalled for. Green responded with a non basketball play to free himself, as is his right.

I actually had this take too at first, but if you watch the slo mo baseline view, Sabonis hits the ground and immediately brings his arms up to cover his head. In the process one arm wraps around Green's ankle for a moment, then Green yanks it up and does his stomp.

it's certainly possible Sabonis saw an opportunity to grab or trip Green in that moment, but it's impossible to watch the video objectively and say for sure one way or another what he intended to do.

It's hard to see the force or control by Dray, who despite his high IQ, is an uncoordinated oaf compared to most NBA players. Especially his lower body.

I hear you, but to me what Green did looks less accidental and more intentional. He might be an oaf compared to other NBA players, but he's a pro athlete - I've seen guys fall down around other players like this plenty of times in HS or pick-up games with people who are far from pro athlete level, and 99% of the time they're able to avoid stomping on or jumping off of the guy who fell, so it's hard for me to buy that Draymond just isn't coordinated enough to avoid it.

Draymond doesn't make any attempt to move his foot so it doesn't come down on Sabonis - he's looking down at him, yanks his foot up and then brings it straight back down again hard into Sabonis' body. Then he puts full pressure on that same leg and uses Sabonis as a springboard to jump off and run downcourt.

normally once you feel the contact with the other player and raise your foot up, even if they're holding onto it where you have to yank it upwards and are off balance, you'd still try to move your leg a little bit and change the place where your foot was coming down again since you know their body is down there. You also wouldn't normally put pressure on that foot to jump because you'd feel their body under it.

again though, it happened really quickly and I can't say for sure what either player was thinking. I just think there's more room to interpret Sabonis' action as accidental compared to Green's, especially given Draymond's history.

[Warriorfan]

1 game suspension for stomp because of past one game suspension for inciting fans

[dhsilv2]

I actually had this take too at first, but if you watch the slo mo baseline view, Sabonis hits the ground and immediately brings his arms up to cover his head. In the process one arm wraps around Green's ankle for a moment, then Green yanks it up and does his stomp.

it's certainly possible Sabonis saw an opportunity to grab or trip Green in that moment, but it's impossible to watch the video objectively and say for sure one way or another what he intended to do.

It's hard to see the force or control by Dray, who despite his high IQ, is an uncoordinated oaf compared to most NBA players. Especially his lower body.

I hear you, but to me what Green did looks less accidental and more intentional. He might be an oaf compared to other NBA players, but he's a pro athlete - I've seen guys fall down around other players like this plenty of times in pick-up games with people who are far from pro athlete level, and 99% of the time they're able to avoid stomping on or jumping off of the guy who fell, so it's hard for me to buy that Draymond just isn't coordinated enough to avoid it.

Draymond doesn't make any attempt to move his foot so it doesn't come down on Sabonis or mitigate the impact - he's looking down at Sabonis, yanks his foot up and then brings it straight back down again hard into Sabonis' body. Then he puts full pressure on that same leg and uses Sabonis as a springboard to jump off and run downcourt.

normally once you feel the contact with the other player and raise your foot up, and even if they're holding onto it where you have to yank it upwards, you'd still try to move your leg a little bit and change the place where your foot was coming down again since you know their body is down there. You also wouldn't put normally put pressure on that foot to jump because you'd feel their body under it.

again though, it happened really quickly and I can't say for sure what either player was thinking. I just think there's more room to interpret Sabonis' action as accidental compared to Green's, especially given Draymond's history.

1. I'm not claiming Dray didn't once contact was made, intentionally try and retaliate against Sabonis. That was wrong and at the very least the flagrant 2 was a good call and if they add another game, that doesn't seem wrong to me either.

2. Dray's foot was under Sabonis's left and his ankle in his hands. Dray was going to either fall to the ground or step on Sabonis. I don't think he had the ability there to push through and avoid falling face first or stomping on Sabonis.

I will agree however that with the speed and how fast it happened, it's hard to tell HOW hard Dray stomped or how hard that pull by Sabonis was. Either way both were non basketball plays and both were dirty. Dray imo was worse, but I struggle to see Dray being a flagrant 2 plus 2 games as many suggest while Sabonis is just a regular technical.