And it begins: Beal will not play because of back problems

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Re: And it begins: Beal will not play because of back problems 

Post#101 » by canada_dry » Wed Nov 1, 2023 1:28 am

Wtf is going on? I have both these guys on my fantasy team

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Re: And it begins: Beal will not play because of back problems 

Post#102 » by Homer38 » Wed Nov 1, 2023 10:33 am

durden_tyler wrote:Okay with Beal if it's really an injury, but what's happening with Booker? Just load management?


I don't think this is load management for Booker
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Re: And it begins: Beal will not play because of back problems 

Post#103 » by JN61 » Wed Nov 1, 2023 10:51 am

mtcan wrote:Durant is cursed ever since he and Draymond had a public falling out.

You act like OKC had much of a luck with injuries. Between 2012 and 2016 every playoff they had key player suffer injury during the playoffs or was out for entire playoffs.
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Re: And it begins: Beal will not play because of back problems 

Post#104 » by mtcan » Wed Nov 1, 2023 12:09 pm

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mtcan wrote:Durant is cursed ever since he and Draymond had a public falling out.

You act like OKC had much of a luck with injuries. Between 2012 and 2016 every playoff they had key player suffer injury during the playoffs or was out for entire playoffs.

True...but he did win 2 championships up until that Draymond incident. Then he had that calf injury that forced him out for most of the rest of that season including the playoffs and then the Achilles rupture and then going to Brooklyn then there was the Kyrie issues and then Harden trade and then there was the foot on the line that could have eliminated the Bucks who went on to win the championship then Harden trade request and trade and then there was the Ben Simmons issues and then the Kyrie issues (again) and then the trade request that was and then wasn't then was again leading to the trade to Phoenix and now neither of his costars are available and who knows what comes next.

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Re: And it begins: Beal will not play because of back problems 

Post#105 » by TorontoBarneys » Wed Nov 1, 2023 12:18 pm

Teams that force situations where they get a "big 3" or w/e continue to suffer while teams that organically grew their rosters continue to see success.

Lebron cursed the league with his The Decision nonsense.
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Re: And it begins: Beal will not play because of back problems 

Post#106 » by Ssj16 » Wed Nov 1, 2023 12:44 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:Teams that force situations where they get a "big 3" or w/e continue to suffer while teams that organically grew their rosters continue to see success.

Lebron cursed the league with his The Decision nonsense.


This is why it's beautiful to see the Bucks and the Nuggets of the league win.

The irony is that LeBron won with AD as just a big 2 but then tried to create a big 3 with Westbrook and we see where that got him, lol.
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Re: And it begins: Beal will not play because of back problems 

Post#107 » by Calvin Klein » Wed Nov 1, 2023 12:48 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:Teams that force situations where they get a "big 3" or w/e continue to suffer while teams that organically grew their rosters continue to see success.

Lebron cursed the league with his The Decision nonsense.



Phoenix did have such team, which made the Finals. Most of them were drafted players and they could have kept building on it. But well...Kendall Roy wanted to play with his new toy.
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Re: And it begins: Beal will not play because of back problems 

Post#109 » by GameOver25 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:19 am

Three more weeks. Beal getting them checks.
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Re: And it begins: Beal will not play because of back problems 

Post#110 » by GrandTheftRondo » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:44 am

How long before they do further looks into it and realise it’s something worse and he’s done for the season?

Something about it just completely stinks.

I get backs can be troublesome but generally something persisting so long isn’t just nothing
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Post#111 » by Karate Diop » Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:22 am

TorontoBarneys wrote:Teams that force situations where they get a "big 3" or w/e continue to suffer while teams that organically grew their rosters continue to see success.

Lebron cursed the league with his The Decision nonsense.


Also proved that it's harder than it looks to do what he did.
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Post#112 » by GrandTheftRondo » Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:28 am

Karate Diop wrote:
TorontoBarneys wrote:Teams that force situations where they get a "big 3" or w/e continue to suffer while teams that organically grew their rosters continue to see success.

Lebron cursed the league with his The Decision nonsense.


Also proved that it's harder than it looks to do what he did.

I mean he literally went and joined two stars in their primes.

It was a near slam dunk once they worked out chemistry.

KD’s problem since leaving the Warriors has been hitching his wagon to all sorts of issues.

Kyrie was an injury prone nutter.

Harden refuses to be unselfish.

Beal has constantly been injured the last few years.
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Re: And it begins: Beal will not play because of back problems 

Post#113 » by nikster » Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:44 am

GrandTheftRondo wrote:
Karate Diop wrote:
TorontoBarneys wrote:Teams that force situations where they get a "big 3" or w/e continue to suffer while teams that organically grew their rosters continue to see success.

Lebron cursed the league with his The Decision nonsense.


Also proved that it's harder than it looks to do what he did.

I mean he literally went and joined two stars in their primes.

It was a near slam dunk once they worked out chemistry.

KD’s problem since leaving the Warriors has been hitching his wagon to all sorts of issues.

Kyrie was an injury prone nutter.

Harden refuses to be unselfish.

Beal has constantly been injured the last few years.

Once they worked out chemistry they still had similar issues we are seeing from todays super teams that they had to overcome. Those early Heat teams were incredibly thin. In 2012 Chris Bosh missed the entire 2nd round and a majority of the ECF (and the few minutes he did play he was not himself). They were starting Chalmers, Battier and either Haslem or Turiaf those 2 rounds. 2013 Wade was dealing with injuries and was far from his peak performance. Cavs had Kyre and Love go down in 2015, and Love went down in 2016 finals.
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Re: And it begins: Beal will not play because of back problems 

Post#114 » by GrandTheftRondo » Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:59 am

nikster wrote:
GrandTheftRondo wrote:
Karate Diop wrote:
Also proved that it's harder than it looks to do what he did.

I mean he literally went and joined two stars in their primes.

It was a near slam dunk once they worked out chemistry.

KD’s problem since leaving the Warriors has been hitching his wagon to all sorts of issues.

Kyrie was an injury prone nutter.

Harden refuses to be unselfish.

Beal has constantly been injured the last few years.

Once they worked out chemistry they still had similar issues we are seeing from todays super teams that they had to overcome. Those early Heat teams were incredibly thin. In 2012 Chris Bosh missed the entire 2nd round and a majority of the ECF (and the few minutes he did play he was not himself). They were starting Chalmers, Battier and either Haslem or Turiaf those 2 rounds. 2013 Wade was dealing with injuries and was far from his peak performance. Cavs had Kyre and Love go down in 2015, and Love went down in 2016 finals.

Yeah but the East back then was terrible.

When Durant joined the Nets, Milwaukee and Boston were in the way.

Out West things are absolutely stacked now with the Nuggets, Lakers, Warriors etc
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Re: And it begins: Beal will not play because of back problems 

Post#115 » by nikster » Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:07 pm

GrandTheftRondo wrote:
nikster wrote:
GrandTheftRondo wrote:I mean he literally went and joined two stars in their primes.

It was a near slam dunk once they worked out chemistry.

KD’s problem since leaving the Warriors has been hitching his wagon to all sorts of issues.

Kyrie was an injury prone nutter.

Harden refuses to be unselfish.

Beal has constantly been injured the last few years.

Once they worked out chemistry they still had similar issues we are seeing from todays super teams that they had to overcome. Those early Heat teams were incredibly thin. In 2012 Chris Bosh missed the entire 2nd round and a majority of the ECF (and the few minutes he did play he was not himself). They were starting Chalmers, Battier and either Haslem or Turiaf those 2 rounds. 2013 Wade was dealing with injuries and was far from his peak performance. Cavs had Kyre and Love go down in 2015, and Love went down in 2016 finals.

Yeah but the East back then was terrible.

When Durant joined the Nets, Milwaukee and Boston were in the way.

Out West things are absolutely stacked now with the Nuggets, Lakers, Warriors etc

The Celtics and Indiana were still great teams. In 2012 the Celtics were up 3-2 and needed 2 massive games from LeBron to close out the series. Same with Indiana in 2013, Bosh and Wade were terrible in that series and needed an incredible series from LeBron to win. The Cavs had easier Eastern conference foes when Lebron returned but don't think anybody outside of maybe MJ is winning 2016 finals or making it out of the East in 2018.

Durant got swept by Boston in the first round because they were a 44 win team (and Lebron isn't going anywhere playing the way the Durant did that series). Last year Booker was the better player and they got blown out in 3 of their loses. Lebron would have been a major upgrade on both ends of the floor
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Re: And it begins: Beal will not play because of back problems 

Post#116 » by og15 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:28 pm

I had mentioned before that this injury did not seem anywhere near as minor as it was reported, especially with people who were crying about load management in regards to it.

We'll see if it is actually 3 weeks.
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Re: And it begins: Beal will not play because of back problems 

Post#117 » by mpoo_sin » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:02 am

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