Safe to say, Chet "Hologram" Holgrem > Paolo Banchero

[Rainwater]

I'll never understand why praising one guy involves belittling the other one. They are both young. It's not farfetched to think Paolo has a great game here soon on the same night Chet struggles. Or maybe Paolo has a good game against Chet. Then someone will bump this thread and troll Chet and his fans. It's exhausting to me.

This is also a really good take

[BlazersBroncos]

Not only would I not take Chet over Pablo at this point I would not select Chet second in a redo of the draft.

Why? I assume injury issue but if Chet is healthy he is going to be easily a guy worthy of a #2 pick. He has been nothing short of phenomenal in the small sample size of this year.

[BrooklynDynasty]

Not only would I not take Chet over Pablo at this point I would not select Chet second in a redo of the draft.

agreed

chet is a role player, fundamentally. a high level one certainly, but he's not leading a title contending team as a #1, probably not #2 option.

Banchero is on the trajectory of that kind of player

[SeattleJazzFan]

Not only would I not take Chet over Pablo at this point I would not select Chet second in a redo of the draft.

agreed

chet is a role player, fundamentally. a high level one certainly, but he's not leading a title contending team as a #1, probably not #2 option.

Banchero is on the trajectory of that kind of player

wait, are you talking what Chet is now, or what he will be 5 years from now? because yes, right now, Chet is an extremely high level role player - SGA the clear #1 option. but we have no idea what he will be 5 years from now. he has a skill set that could absolutely evolve into a #1 option. in terms of his base skillset he really has no weaknesses as a shooter/scorer - he just needs to get better on the things that are already there. he can score from all three levels, on pull ups, on post ups, off the bounce - he can really do it all as a scorer and 5 games into his career has a crap ton of improvement in front of him. right now, that isn't OKC's need - they need him to defend, protect the rim, make shots and only create for himself on occasion. the but skillset is there.

[RTG HD]

Not only would I not take Chet over Pablo at this point I would not select Chet second in a redo of the draft.

Why? I assume injury issue but if Chet is healthy he is going to be easily a guy worthy of a #2 pick. He has been nothing short of phenomenal in the small sample size of this year.

Pablo is already playing great and showing over a larger sample set why he was drafted number 1 and Sharp who is younger than Chet is already better than Chet and less likely to have an injury plagued career.

[sfernald]

I like Chet. I like Paolo.

Center: Chet
PF: Banchero
SF: Wemby

Would make a pretty decent front court

[MoneyTalks41890]

Not only would I not take Chet over Pablo at this point I would not select Chet second in a redo of the draft.

agreed

chet is a role player, fundamentally. a high level one certainly, but he's not leading a title contending team as a #1, probably not #2 option.

Banchero is on the trajectory of that kind of player

Chet is the DPOY guy who can also shoot 40% from 3.

Paolo is the offensive engine who can score in bunches inside the 3 point line.

[NO-KG-AI]

Chet has a lot of juice off the dribble and finishing even with almost no seasoning or strength, I’d be real careful about capping him as a non creator.

[cupcakesnake]

Not only would I not take Chet over Pablo at this point I would not select Chet second in a redo of the draft.

agreed

chet is a role player, fundamentally. a high level one certainly, but he's not leading a title contending team as a #1, probably not #2 option.

Banchero is on the trajectory of that kind of player

Players who can anchor a defense and contribute like a 2nd or 3rd option on offense are just as valuable as offensive #1 options. All throughout history this has been shown. Bill Russell, Bill Walton, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, David Robinson, Giannis, Anthony Davis.

Some guys who project as potential #1 options end up being Demar Derozan. Don't overrate shot creation. It's important but not the only valuable thing you need for winning titles.

I think Paolo and Chet have a ton of work to do before they're being considered as championship-level major players. I'm hoping for them both to reach their potential. But I don't think one archetype is fundamentally more valuable than the other.

[JRoy]

Not only would I not take Chet over Pablo at this point I would not select Chet second in a redo of the draft.

agreed

chet is a role player, fundamentally. a high level one certainly, but he's not leading a title contending team as a #1, probably not #2 option.

Banchero is on the trajectory of that kind of player

Chet looks like a quality #2-3 guy.

I don’t a team with Banchero as the best player winning anything.

[tdotrep2]

if he is injury free then sure, the issue is he's a flight risk

[RTG HD]

Not only would I not take Chet over Pablo at this point I would not select Chet second in a redo of the draft.

agreed

chet is a role player, fundamentally. a high level one certainly, but he's not leading a title contending team as a #1, probably not #2 option.

Banchero is on the trajectory of that kind of player

Chet looks like a quality #2-3 guy.

I don’t a team with Banchero as the best player winning anything.

Agreed that Chet looks like a quality 2-3 guy on his own team. I disagree that a team can not win with Banchero as their best player.

[BlazersBroncos]

Not only would I not take Chet over Pablo at this point I would not select Chet second in a redo of the draft.

Why? I assume injury issue but if Chet is healthy he is going to be easily a guy worthy of a #2 pick. He has been nothing short of phenomenal in the small sample size of this year.

Pablo is already playing great and showing over a larger sample set why he was drafted number 1 and Sharp who is younger than Chet is already better than Chet and less likely to have an injury plagued career.

I am not sure its clear cut that Sharpe is better than Chet. Right now Sharpe is putting nice raw numbers on meh efficiency on a bad team where he has a neon green light to shoot.

Chet is putting up incredibly efficient stats and 2-way play on a team that looks really good.

Not sure I would swap Sharpe w/ Chet if given the chance, but anyone that disagrees is totally within reason.

Would 100% swap Scoot for Chet if given the chance though.

[damanick10]

Both are different players that fit different teams. Banchero has the potential of being a better go to option, but Chet is a great nucleus in the middle with some nice guards already.

[Texas Chuck]

I'll never understand why praising one guy involves belittling the other one. They are both young. It's not farfetched to think Paolo has a great game here soon on the same night Chet struggles. Or maybe Paolo has a good game against Chet. Then someone will bump this thread and troll Chet and his fans. It's exhausting to me.

So much this. Way too many people make this zero sum. The Trae/Luka threads exhausted me for years until the last couple Hawks posters finally gave it up. But it just was petty and absurd and frankly a disserve to the guy they were trying to hype.

Both guys can be great. Or can not be. But they should get that chance independently of each other. And Magic fans should be able to appreciate Chet and Thunder fans Banchero (as they see fit).

But knocking another player never ever ever ever makes your player better. It's just so dumb.

[RookieStar]

Magic didn't want or need a role player. They needed a go to player. Chet as your go to player would be laughingstock of the league. Could he even successfully post up a PG?

not a fair characterization at this point in his career. it remains to be seen if he can be a go to scorer. he's 5 games into his rookie season and he's averaging 16 ppg on 60/52/80 splits. In fact, his ppg average is the same as Paolo on better efficiency. or are we expecting Chet to be getting an efficient 25 ppg in his first handful of games as a rookie in order to project as a #1?

Uh... watching them both in college, you really think any team can just throw the ball at Chet half-court/full court and say "give us some points Chet/make something happen for us Chet " like what Duke and the Magic did to Paolo?

[RookieStar]

Look there is a small sample with our game yesterday.

Less than a minute left, we were down by 1pt. Inbound at the halfcourt. We threw it at Paolo with the understanding he do something starting there ( kind of like our glory years with Penny and Tmac).

He actually did. Drove through traffic ( although it was just Collins guarding him from halfcourt ) met and got the shot off the help ( it was Kessler who already had 6/7 blocks alread) and got us the 1pt lead.

That was/is the kind of player we have been looking for. I don't really think we can do that with Chet.

[RookieStar]

Disclaimer : Despite being a Duke fan, I was in Team Chet if I remember correctly. I thought we had our go-to-scorer in Franz already and that Chet would have been the perfect partner for him with his rim-protection and etc. Plus he is great friends with Suggs. However, Im not sad at all that we got Paolo after seeing what he did/can do for us.

[ogmagicfan]

I like Chet, and I hope he manages to stay healthy the rest of his career, but Paolo is what the Magic needed. We needed a go-to scorer BADLY.

Last 2 games he's played illustrates it:

30 Pts (9/13 shooting, 1/2 from 3), 9 Rebs, 5 Asts, 3 Blks, 2 Stls vs Jazz

25 Pts (9/15 shooting, 2/4 from 3), 7 Rebs, 10 Asts, 1 Blk, 1 Stl vs Lakers

He's the archtype of the kinda player who can be a 1st option on a championship team. I'd pick him over Chet 10 outta 10 times, you don't pass up a 1st option for a role player offensively. Especially when taking into account how badly we needed a go to scorer

[Liver_Pooty]

Not only would I not take Chet over Pablo at this point I would not select Chet second in a redo of the draft.

agreed

chet is a role player, fundamentally. a high level one certainly, but he's not leading a title contending team as a #1, probably not #2 option.

Banchero is on the trajectory of that kind of player

I disagree. Neither one is a number 1 option on a contending team. Both will be multiple time all stars, but they won't be on that level.