BREAKING: NBA Has Suspended Draymond Green Indefinitely

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How many games should Draymond be suspended?

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10-15
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15-20
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Repeat offender. 20+ Games
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Re: BREAKING: NBA Has Suspended Draymond Green Indefinitely 

Post#101 » by DusterBuster » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:06 am

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durden_tyler wrote:Silver has balls. Silver haters, what do you think of this impressive decision?

This all depends on how it unwinds.


Yeah, size of Silvers balls are tbd. “Indefinite” could be 5 or 30 or the rest of the year. Depends on Dray likely completing some level of check marks the league will determine for his reinstatement.
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Re: BREAKING: NBA Has Suspended Draymond Green Indefinitely 

Post#102 » by CobraCommander » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:07 am

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Re: BREAKING: NBA Has Suspended Draymond Green Indefinitely 

Post#103 » by SkyHook » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:07 am

durden_tyler wrote:Silver has balls. Silver haters, what do you think of this impressive decision?


A more impressive, actual decision would have been:

“Draymond Green has been suspended for 20 games (or 25 or whatever). Whether he returns to play at that time is subject to him meeting certain mandatory league and team conditions.”
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Re: BREAKING: NBA Has Suspended Draymond Green Indefinitely 

Post#104 » by Pachinko_ » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:10 am

Ι don't understand.
You have the old guys in the media glorifying how tough the old NBA was
You got the fans extremely excited every time the smallest "fight" errupts, even though it's usually nothing but words
But then as soon as anyone actually does anything with their hands it's suspensions immediately.

I mean I don't mind either way, for me basketball always meant some low level violence, nothing serious, maybe a couple of bruises.

So take your pick people, what kind of hoops do you actually want? Squeaky clean or a little bit dirty? The commissar will oblige.
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Post#105 » by D.Brasco » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:12 am

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Post#106 » by soxfan2003 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:13 am

The NBA may be in CYA mode. Silver and the other execs must know the huge legal and PR risk the league is running if Green ever does something that paralyzes or even kills another NBA player based upon his reckless actions that the league didn't punish consistently enough. Even fairly young people can fall on their heads and die. Someone getting seriously injured when a player makes a genuine basketball play is one thing but if its after Green's antics it is quite another.

Green has been a bully for a long time and simply trying to intimidate players with his style of play. The league should never have allowed him or anyone else to get away with it since over a decade ago, the NBA decided to clean up the game.

In the 80's or 90's someone like Oakley after a while would have body slammed Green into the ground if he kept up this act. The league no longer allows much retaliation and players to really police themselves so its the responsibility of league to finally get it through Green's head that his act must end.

If he didn't publicly commit to changing his style of play, I would never let him on an NBA court again. You can't allow an NBA player to gain an edge via physical intimidation in this day and age since its basketball and not football.

Green is smart enough to know what he is doing and so isn't Kerr. Kerr has often accepted it since it helps Golden State win games. See how the Warriors handled Green after he punched Poole in the face.
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Post#107 » by Devilanche » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:14 am

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durden_tyler wrote:Silver has balls. Silver haters, what do you think of this impressive decision?


A more impressive, actual decision would have been:

“Draymond Green has been suspended for 20 games (or 25 or whatever). Whether he returns to play at that time is subject to him meeting certain mandatory league and team conditions.”

And the next time he does this , he’s out of the league forever.
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Post#108 » by bdp31770 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:14 am

I think they'll play better with Kuminga starting in place of Green.
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Re: BREAKING: NBA Has Suspended Draymond Green Indefinitely 

Post#109 » by Devilanche » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:16 am

Pachinko_ wrote:Ι don't understand.
You have the old guys in the media glorifying how tough the old NBA was
You got the fans extremely excited every time the smallest "fight" errupts, even though it's usually nothing but words
But then as soon as anyone actually does anything with their hands it's suspensions immediately.

I mean I don't mind either way, for me basketball always meant some low level violence, nothing serious, maybe a couple of bruises.

So take your pick people, what do you actually want? The commissar will oblige.


A face to face fight when it’s warranted .
Not a cheap shot when someone is making basketball plays.
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Re: BREAKING: NBA Has Suspended Draymond Green Indefinitely 

Post#110 » by soxfan2003 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:18 am

Pachinko_ wrote:Ι don't understand.
You have the old guys in the media glorifying how tough the old NBA was
You got the fans extremely excited every time the smallest "fight" errupts, even though it's usually nothing but words
But then as soon as anyone actually does anything with their hands it's suspensions immediately.

I mean I don't mind either way, for me basketball always meant some low level violence, nothing serious, maybe a couple of bruises.

So take your pick people, what do you actually want? The commissar will oblige.


I want physical violence and physical intimidation completely out of the game as long as the NBA is going to take a hardline on fighting. If the NBA just gave 1 game suspensions for fights, I'd have less issue with Green's antics since he would have already risked a few punches to the face and body slams by now.

But now since the NBA has taken fighting out of the game by really penalizing it, you can't let Green or anyone else get away with antics like what he is doing.
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Re: BREAKING: NBA Has Suspended Draymond Green Indefinitely 

Post#111 » by ReddoverKobe » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:19 am

He's turned into a lunatic. The next time, if it happens should be for the year.,
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Post#112 » by hardenASG13 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:19 am

mkot wrote:He needs to just come out and apologize. Just say yes I lost my cool and I'm sorry. I think that's what the league wanted him to do before handing him the punishment and I think that's right. He needs to show remorse or otherwise next time he's gonna clothesline someone or whatever.


He is way beyond that point. Would you believe him if he apologized. He does this repeatedly, and has for a long time. It's who he is.
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Post#113 » by canada_dry » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:21 am

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canada_dry wrote:He better not show up on his podcast talking nonsense. On your best behavior from now on. People are done with your crap.

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Yea, but this feels different.

As it should be.

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Re: BREAKING: NBA Has Suspended Draymond Green Indefinitely 

Post#114 » by soxfan2003 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:21 am

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durden_tyler wrote:Silver has balls. Silver haters, what do you think of this impressive decision?


A more impressive, actual decision would have been:

“Draymond Green has been suspended for 20 games (or 25 or whatever). Whether he returns to play at that time is subject to him meeting certain mandatory league and team conditions.”

And the next time he does this , he’s out of the league forever.


Green should already have been out of the league but since the NBA didn't come down on him harsh enough, you do need to give him 1 more chance. I would go next offense is at least a 2 year suspension. And I would insist on redoing the CBA if the league didn't have power to do that after a pattern of repeated poor behavior. Call it the Draymond Green rule.

At a certain point, enough is enough. If Draymond Green isn't a good enough basketball player to start or be in the league without his antics, he shouldn't be starting or in the league.
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Re: BREAKING: NBA Has Suspended Draymond Green Indefinitely 

Post#115 » by SweaterBae » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:22 am

Indefinitely is meaningless, it just buys the league time instead of doing what everyone knows is the right thing.
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Post#116 » by Wammy Giveaway » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:22 am

Do the Warriors trade Green? If yes, where does he go?

Keep in mind, Warriors can buy out Green if they wanted to. Don't know if Warriors will be excused from a salary cap perspective.
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Re: BREAKING: NBA Has Suspended Draymond Green Indefinitely 

Post#117 » by bball4life » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:23 am

This approach makes sense. The NBA has to be wary of the players association so if you are acting like you have the player's best interest in mind, they have less ammunition to appeal. That being said, I believe there's less than a 1% chance counseling changes anything. He's a self absorbed delusional ass hat. Oh sure, he'll come back and behave for a while because he likes money but he will do it again. I would hope that there are fines/penalties for the GSW organization if he continues to behave like a douche bag. They have some accountability in protecting him for so many years. The fact he can't every say something like "yeah, I got angry and frustrated and lost control. It was wrong". It's never his fault. Typical ego centric insanity.
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Re: BREAKING: NBA Has Suspended Draymond Green Indefinitely 

Post#118 » by dhsilv2 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:24 am

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EmpireFalls wrote:Honestly the Warriors need to deal with this internally.


Definitely disagree with you there.

Were they able to deal with it internally when he knocked out Poole ? Didn’t seem to stop his reckless behaviour from getting worse.

At this point other players are at risk of getting assaulted if they go up against him - the NBA is the one that has to guarantee the safety of them. I don’t trust GSW.

That’s the point. This is a franchise and a leader in Curry who has watched the guy punch Poole in the face and then passive aggressively **** talk Poole all year before dumping his salary. Never once did Curry or Kerr publicly admonish Draymond for what he did and they don’t even stand up to him.

They’ve continuously enabled him and never been real with him about how he’s costing the team.

A proper franchise has standards and bare minimums. My franchise is not one of them, obviously. However, the Warriors have proven they are not one either.

Why on earth would they do that publicly? They're grown men.
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Re: BREAKING: NBA Has Suspended Draymond Green Indefinitely 

Post#119 » by Deshaun Taden » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:24 am

Might not mean much. Indefinite could be 3 games for all we know. But we'll see.

Does the Player's Union step in? That's the interesting part. They usually do, and that's what prevents stiffer punishments, then again, the player's union does nothing about the terrible refs and the fines doled out for even acknowledging bad calls.

The players really shouldn't be siding with Draymond anyway. It would have been interesting if CP3 was still the VP, but I think it's McCollum or someone else now, and there isn't an additional tension there (if there ever is in those cases).

It seems like this time Draymond crossed a line, less people defending him in the media, more people calling him out, public seems more against him.

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Re: BREAKING: NBA Has Suspended Draymond Green Indefinitely 

Post#120 » by dhsilv2 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:26 am

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Free Rider wrote:This kinda feels like a copout to me. Rather than just settling on a clear, lengthy, and highly warranted suspension period, they've essentially designed a form of discipline that allows Draymond to control his own fate by fulfilling some undefined set of conditions. It leaves room for the possibility that if he shows he's undergoing some form of counseling or therapy he can return within a few weeks. I think it would have been better for them to go all in and suspend him for 25 games so there's a clear understanding of what the consequences are.


If the goal is to rehabilitate him, what’s wrong with saying he can come back once he’s rehabilitated? Isn’t that better than some arbitrary number of games?


Could have just said it was X number of games + completion which may or may not take those games. But it gives some idea of a min here. Lets be real, he'll have to do some charity work and talk to someone about his anger issues? Odds are they know exactly how long that should take.

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