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MVP1992 wrote:Is there a way of calculating the total number of threads started about who's the GOAT in the history of RGM?
Over or under 1000?
*edit to add: MJ
Jester_ wrote:Hot take: Moses Moody shows the potential to be a star/#2 option ala Lauri Markkanen. Both the eye test and the advanced stats show a player with extremely high slope.
JM00n69 wrote:He wasn't going to is the answer.
Godymas wrote:It goes without saying that the biggest argument for Michael Jordan's greatness is his undefeated 6-0 in the finals.
SweaterBae wrote:It's the perfect trade when nobody is happy.
JM00n69 wrote:JM00n69 wrote:He wasn't going to is the answer.
Jordan lead the League 10x in scoring. 4 time 1st team defensive player (1xDPOY). Led the league in steals 3x. 5 time MVP. 6x Champion (6/6 in finals), 6xFMVP
He's the GOAT for a reason kids.
Godymas wrote:It goes without saying that the biggest argument for Michael Jordan's greatness is his undefeated 6-0 in the finals. Forget the failures of his early years before getting Scottie Pippen. Forget about the Wizards years where he was old and way past his prime. Forget the 1995 playoffs where Jordan came back from baseball. The one knock you can't have on Jordan is once he made the finals he won them.
LeBron on the other hand seems to regularly get knocks against his legacy for winning 4 of the 10 finals he made. It doesn't matter if LeBron didn't have prime Scottie Pippen or Dennis Rodman. He had the ghost of IT and Kevin Love before the depression really sunk in. Who could forget the time LeBron took Mo Williams and Big Z to go up against a prime dynasty San Antonio Spurs with late prime Tim Duncan, prime Tony Parker, and ofc Prime Manu Ginobli coached by the most winningest coach in NBA history, Gregg Popovich.
When you have a guy that only makes the All NBA 1st team it seems like the names that come up are guys like LeBron James, Michael Jordan or oh yeah Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Who could forget that time Kareem won the NBA MVP and didn't make the playoffs. It really is unfortunate that Kareem lost the 1974 finals to a Dave Cowens, John Havlicek, Jojo White Boston Celtics. I guess it really became impossible to put Kareem ahead of Jordan after Jordan won 2 finals in a row.
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Kingdibs19 wrote:Godymas wrote:It goes without saying that the biggest argument for Michael Jordan's greatness is his undefeated 6-0 in the finals. Forget the failures of his early years before getting Scottie Pippen. Forget about the Wizards years where he was old and way past his prime. Forget the 1995 playoffs where Jordan came back from baseball. The one knock you can't have on Jordan is once he made the finals he won them.
LeBron on the other hand seems to regularly get knocks against his legacy for winning 4 of the 10 finals he made. It doesn't matter if LeBron didn't have prime Scottie Pippen or Dennis Rodman. He had the ghost of IT and Kevin Love before the depression really sunk in. Who could forget the time LeBron took Mo Williams and Big Z to go up against a prime dynasty San Antonio Spurs with late prime Tim Duncan, prime Tony Parker, and ofc Prime Manu Ginobli coached by the most winningest coach in NBA history, Gregg Popovich.
When you have a guy that only makes the All NBA 1st team it seems like the names that come up are guys like LeBron James, Michael Jordan or oh yeah Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Who could forget that time Kareem won the NBA MVP and didn't make the playoffs. It really is unfortunate that Kareem lost the 1974 finals to a Dave Cowens, John Havlicek, Jojo White Boston Celtics. I guess it really became impossible to put Kareem ahead of Jordan after Jordan won 2 finals in a row.
Jordan was 6-0 in the finals with a lot of losses in previous rounds. 5 out of the 6 finals losses Lebron had came against much superior competition than any finals team Jordan ever faced. The Spurs and Warriors would mollywop any team who’s 3rd best player was Hornacek or Nate McMillan or Kevin Ducksworth instead of Manu/Parker or Klay/Draymond. But Jordan Stans want to pretend the competition was even harder back then. As if the league is not so much more global now and players have not improved decade to decade.
DOT wrote:Y'all are seriously gonna argue that if MJ had made the Finals 4 more times but lost to go 6-4 that his argument as GOAT would be weaker
Tor_Raps wrote:If lebron had 6 or more titles then people wouldn't care as much about his losses. It's the fact he's had so many cracks at winning rings and still wasn't able to surpass Jordan's 6 that should tell you how amazing of a feat it truly was.
You also make it sound like people are trashing Lebron if they call him the 2nd or best player of all time. This has more to do with the fact Lebron stans cant accept he's not 1st lol.