2024-25 NBA MVP Discussion Thread

[AleksandarN]

There is a player averaging a 30-point triple double while shooting 56/57/78.

Without the wins they're an empty stat. Voter fatigue will come into play as well. Westbrook won an MVP with that type of statline but this is a different context now with Jokic. Still early though but if the Nuggets arent a top 4 seed in the West, I can't see him winning the MVP even with a stat line like he has.

Westbrook did not come close to 56/57/78 what are you talking about

[CobraCommander]

Should be Jokic until he retires...MVP should be most valuable player on every team, that means, difference between that team with that player, and the same team without that player. Nuggets without Jokic are getting top 5 odds for #1 pick.

He will ofc not be, my guess is:

1. Luka(worse record but far better counting stats then SGA and Tatum)
2. SGA
3. Tatum

Right now AD also has a really good case, but im pretty sure that either he will get injured or he will slow down.

Anyone saying Luka over sga right now isn’t watching basketball-

Luka having his worse year ever

He is 22nd in scoring - 6 points off last year- at 27 points- shooting 46% in total and a Westbrook like 28% from 3- also is he avg 8 rebounds and 6 assist. How is that the mvp when AD is avg 31 and a lot more rebounds- sga is undefeated and avg better advances stats- Luka ain’t in top 10 in mvp if he ain’t top 1 or 2 in points

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3945274/luka-doncic

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4278073/shai-gilgeous-alexander

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3032977/giannis-antetokounmpo

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6583/anthony-davis

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3112335/nikola-jokic

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4065648/jayson-tatum


If we not looking at the name on the jersey - and we look at stats and team performance it’s SGA or Tatum and maybe AD

If we looking at stats regardless of team performance it’s Giannis, Jokic or AD

Never is it- ignore the team and ignore the stats and give it to Luka-

Luka will get hot and then it will be a race where he is in it- right now that’s not the case- Luka has a half again the rockets where he took 8 3s and made 1 His shooting has been streaky as hell and he has shot the Mavs out of games - abjectly Kyrie has been the best Mav so far cause he is playing his role perfectly.

Luka Will he top 5 by years end or win it but anyone saying he is winning right now while he is doing everything worse than Trae young except Luka avg one more rebound than Trae but is doing everything else worse is looking at the names on the jersey and not the play on the court - “bad shot Trae” is actually shooting better than Luka lol how is that a thing in the year 2024 of the lord…

Luka having a bad Luka year- don’t give him the crown- let them snatch it from Jokic by force-

Right now I thinks it’s SGA or Tatum - Tatum avg 30 which is 3 more than Luka when people say Luka is a much better scorer than SGA- last year Luka avg 3 more points than SGAs 30ppg - objectively Tatum should get the same love-

I suspect Luka gonna lead league or be second to Embiid this year again with 55 wins - that will be enough to be in conversation
https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4277905/trae-young

[Mrakar]

Anyone saying Luka over sga right now isn’t watching basketball-

Luka having his worse year ever

He is 22nd in scoring - 6 points off last year- at 27 points- shooting 46% in total and a Westbrook like 28% from 3- also is he avg 8 rebounds and 6 assist. How is that the mvp when AD is avg 31 and a lot more rebounds- sga is undefeated and avg better advances stats- Luka ain’t in top 10 in mvp if he ain’t top 1 or 2 in points

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3945274/luka-doncic

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4278073/shai-gilgeous-alexander

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3032977/giannis-antetokounmpo

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6583/anthony-davis

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3112335/nikola-jokic

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4065648/jayson-tatum


If we not looking at the name on the jersey - and we look at stats and team performance it’s SGA or Tatum and maybe AD

If we looking at stats regardless of team performance it’s Giannis, Jokic or AD

Never is it- ignore the team and ignore the stats and give it to Luka-

Luka will get hot and then it will be a race where he is in it- right now that’s not the case- Luka has a half again the rockets where he took 8 3s and made 1 His shooting has been streaky as hell and he has shot the Mavs out of games - abjectly Kyrie has been the best Mav so far cause he is playing his role perfectly.

Luka Will he top 5 by years end or win it but anyone saying he is winning right now while he is doing everything worse than Trae young except Luka avg one more rebound than Trae but is doing everything else worse is looking at the names on the jersey and not the play on the court - “bad shot Trae” is actually shooting better than Luka lol how is that a thing in the year 2024 of the lord…

Luka having a bad Luka year- don’t give him the crown- let them snatch it from Jokic by force-

Right now I thinks it’s SGA or Tatum - Tatum avg 30 which is 3 more than Luka when people say Luka is a much better scorer than SGA- last year Luka avg 3 more points than SGAs 30ppg - objectively Tatum should get the same love-

I suspect Luka gonna lead league or be second to Embiid this year again with 55 wins - that will be enough to be in conversation
https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4277905/trae-young

Nobody said he deserves it after just five games—I simply gave my prediction for who will win it in the end. If you’re going to try to debunk someone’s post and criticize it, at least read it first.

[California Gold]

There is a player averaging a 30-point triple double while shooting 56/57/78.

Without the wins they're an empty stat. Voter fatigue will come into play as well. Westbrook won an MVP with that type of statline but this is a different context now with Jokic. Still early though but if the Nuggets arent a top 4 seed in the West, I can't see him winning the MVP even with a stat line like he has.

Westbrook did not come close to 56/57/78 what are you talking about

Um... I'm talking about averaging a triple double?

Wasn't it that obvious when I brought up Westbrooks MVP campaign?

[BigGargamel]

There is a player averaging a 30-point triple double while shooting 56/57/78.

Without the wins they're an empty stat. Voter fatigue will come into play as well. Westbrook won an MVP with that type of statline but this is a different context now with Jokic. Still early though but if the Nuggets arent a top 4 seed in the West, I can't see him winning the MVP even with a stat line like he has.

Voter fatigue is a myth. Other than the occasional idiot voter, people are past that kind of nonsense. If the Nuggets win 50+, Jokic is the MVP. He's that much better and more important than everyone else.

[Wolfgang630]

SGA will probably end up winning it, but it’s still very early so

[Scoots1994]

There is a player averaging a 30-point triple double while shooting 56/57/78.

Without the wins they're an empty stat. Voter fatigue will come into play as well. Westbrook won an MVP with that type of statline but this is a different context now with Jokic. Still early though but if the Nuggets arent a top 4 seed in the West, I can't see him winning the MVP even with a stat line like he has.

Voter fatigue is a myth. Other than the occasional idiot voter, people are past that kind of nonsense. If the Nuggets win 50+, Jokic is the MVP. He's that much better and more important than everyone else.

Voter fatigue is a fact. Back when Jordan stopped winning some voters literally said he was ineligible in their minds. Same stuff happened to LeBron.

Westbrook should never have won.

[Scoots1994]

SGA will probably end up winning it, but it’s still very early so

If nothing else, SGA wouldn't have been considered eligible by most voters in one third of his seasons because he didn't play enough games.

To finish first, first you must finish.

That said, so far, so good.

[zimpy27]

Davis topping the MVP ranking right now, he won't sustain it but a cool start from AD.


Got to bet on SGA

[AleksandarN]

Without the wins they're an empty stat. Voter fatigue will come into play as well. Westbrook won an MVP with that type of statline but this is a different context now with Jokic. Still early though but if the Nuggets arent a top 4 seed in the West, I can't see him winning the MVP even with a stat line like he has.

Westbrook did not come close to 56/57/78 what are you talking about

Um... I'm talking about averaging a triple double?

Wasn't it that obvious when I brought up Westbrooks MVP campaign?

And equally obvious that both triple doubles would not be the same which is my point. So you can take your lol elsewhere

[CobraCommander]

Anyone saying Luka over sga right now isn’t watching basketball-

Luka having his worse year ever

He is 22nd in scoring - 6 points off last year- at 27 points- shooting 46% in total and a Westbrook like 28% from 3- also is he avg 8 rebounds and 6 assist. How is that the mvp when AD is avg 31 and a lot more rebounds- sga is undefeated and avg better advances stats- Luka ain’t in top 10 in mvp if he ain’t top 1 or 2 in points

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3945274/luka-doncic

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4278073/shai-gilgeous-alexander

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3032977/giannis-antetokounmpo

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6583/anthony-davis

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3112335/nikola-jokic

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4065648/jayson-tatum


If we not looking at the name on the jersey - and we look at stats and team performance it’s SGA or Tatum and maybe AD

If we looking at stats regardless of team performance it’s Giannis, Jokic or AD

Never is it- ignore the team and ignore the stats and give it to Luka-

Luka will get hot and then it will be a race where he is in it- right now that’s not the case- Luka has a half again the rockets where he took 8 3s and made 1 His shooting has been streaky as hell and he has shot the Mavs out of games - abjectly Kyrie has been the best Mav so far cause he is playing his role perfectly.

Luka Will he top 5 by years end or win it but anyone saying he is winning right now while he is doing everything worse than Trae young except Luka avg one more rebound than Trae but is doing everything else worse is looking at the names on the jersey and not the play on the court - “bad shot Trae” is actually shooting better than Luka lol how is that a thing in the year 2024 of the lord…

Luka having a bad Luka year- don’t give him the crown- let them snatch it from Jokic by force-

Right now I thinks it’s SGA or Tatum - Tatum avg 30 which is 3 more than Luka when people say Luka is a much better scorer than SGA- last year Luka avg 3 more points than SGAs 30ppg - objectively Tatum should get the same love-

I suspect Luka gonna lead league or be second to Embiid this year again with 55 wins - that will be enough to be in conversation
https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4277905/trae-young

Nobody said he deserves it after just five games—I simply gave my prediction for who will win it in the end. If you’re going to try to debunk someone’s post and criticize it, at least read it first.

So your post isn’t based on what’s happened , you just a fan of Luka and you don’t care what happened last year where Luka was 5th in mvp, you just predicting your favorite player will be better that Jokic based on your love...got it- So essentially what I said without stats... I think Luka will be in the conversation too-

But if it’s just how I feel then I feel like Jokic or Embiid or Giannis will win it based on the past and AD or Tatum or SGA vs the present

[CobraCommander]

Davis topping the MVP ranking right now, he won't sustain it but a cool start from AD.


Got to bet on SGA

I’m with you - Giannis stats look good but they taking Ls

AD playing great in unexpected wins

SGA and Tatum are balling and winning.

Ja is lurking already but it feels like Jokic is still the best player on earth

[zimpy27]

Davis topping the MVP ranking right now, he won't sustain it but a cool start from AD.


Got to bet on SGA

I’m with you - Giannis stats look good but they taking Ls

AD playing great in unexpected wins

SGA and Tatum are balling and winning.

Ja is lurking already but it feels like Jokic is still the best player on earth

Jokic the best but like LeBron was the best from 08-09 to 19-20 and won it 4 times in those 12 seasons.
You don't win every MVP for simply being the best player.

[Infinite Llamas]

Please add a poll so I can vote for Nikola.

[MavsDirk41]

Davis topping the MVP ranking right now, he won't sustain it but a cool start from AD.


Got to bet on SGA

I’m with you - Giannis stats look good but they taking Ls

AD playing great in unexpected wins

SGA and Tatum are balling and winning.

Ja is lurking already but it feels like Jokic is still the best player on earth

Jokic the best but like LeBron was the best from 08-09 to 19-20 and won it 4 times in those 12 seasons.
You don't win every MVP for simply being the best player.

I agree with you about Davis but James wasnt the best player in the league for the 18/19 and 19/20 seasons. That would be Giannis.

[B-easy]

Voter fatigue is a fact. Back when Jordan stopped winning some voters literally said he was ineligible in their minds. Same stuff happened to LeBron.

Westbrook should never have won.

Lebron never deserved more than 4 MVPs. Recently, voter fatigue was only real in 2023 when voters didn't want to give it to Jokic.
Voters usually get it right.

[Mrakar]

Anyone saying Luka over sga right now isn’t watching basketball-

Luka having his worse year ever

He is 22nd in scoring - 6 points off last year- at 27 points- shooting 46% in total and a Westbrook like 28% from 3- also is he avg 8 rebounds and 6 assist. How is that the mvp when AD is avg 31 and a lot more rebounds- sga is undefeated and avg better advances stats- Luka ain’t in top 10 in mvp if he ain’t top 1 or 2 in points

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3945274/luka-doncic

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4278073/shai-gilgeous-alexander

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3032977/giannis-antetokounmpo

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6583/anthony-davis

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3112335/nikola-jokic

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4065648/jayson-tatum


If we not looking at the name on the jersey - and we look at stats and team performance it’s SGA or Tatum and maybe AD

If we looking at stats regardless of team performance it’s Giannis, Jokic or AD

Never is it- ignore the team and ignore the stats and give it to Luka-

Luka will get hot and then it will be a race where he is in it- right now that’s not the case- Luka has a half again the rockets where he took 8 3s and made 1 His shooting has been streaky as hell and he has shot the Mavs out of games - abjectly Kyrie has been the best Mav so far cause he is playing his role perfectly.

Luka Will he top 5 by years end or win it but anyone saying he is winning right now while he is doing everything worse than Trae young except Luka avg one more rebound than Trae but is doing everything else worse is looking at the names on the jersey and not the play on the court - “bad shot Trae” is actually shooting better than Luka lol how is that a thing in the year 2024 of the lord…

Luka having a bad Luka year- don’t give him the crown- let them snatch it from Jokic by force-

Right now I thinks it’s SGA or Tatum - Tatum avg 30 which is 3 more than Luka when people say Luka is a much better scorer than SGA- last year Luka avg 3 more points than SGAs 30ppg - objectively Tatum should get the same love-

I suspect Luka gonna lead league or be second to Embiid this year again with 55 wins - that will be enough to be in conversation
https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4277905/trae-young

Nobody said he deserves it after just five games—I simply gave my prediction for who will win it in the end. If you’re going to try to debunk someone’s post and criticize it, at least read it first.

So your post isn’t based on what’s happened , you just a fan of Luka and you don’t care what happened last year where Luka was 5th in mvp, you just predicting your favorite player will be better that Jokic based on your love...got it- So essentially what I said without stats... I think Luka will be in the conversation too-

But if it’s just how I feel then I feel like Jokic or Embiid or Giannis will win it based on the past and AD or Tatum or SGA vs the present

Lol, where in the hell did i say that Luka is my favourite player. Stop putting words into my mouth.

I just said that because of counting stats he will be in front. Having almost 30pt TD helps a lot( he doesnt have it right now but i think he will at the end of the season).
Im not sure what drives you and why are you so agressive.
I guess you will now quote me and mention another thing that i didnt said...

[DCasey91]

Without the wins they're an empty stat. Voter fatigue will come into play as well. Westbrook won an MVP with that type of statline but this is a different context now with Jokic. Still early though but if the Nuggets arent a top 4 seed in the West, I can't see him winning the MVP even with a stat line like he has.

Voter fatigue is a myth. Other than the occasional idiot voter, people are past that kind of nonsense. If the Nuggets win 50+, Jokic is the MVP. He's that much better and more important than everyone else.

Voter fatigue is a fact. Back when Jordan stopped winning some voters literally said he was ineligible in their minds. Same stuff happened to LeBron.

Westbrook should never have won.

??? Say want you want but be okay with being flat out wrong. Westbrook outright deserved his MVP, had a great year.

[baldur]

with 60 wins and 1st seed, sga is getting it I guess.

[Scoots1994]

Voter fatigue is a myth. Other than the occasional idiot voter, people are past that kind of nonsense. If the Nuggets win 50+, Jokic is the MVP. He's that much better and more important than everyone else.

Voter fatigue is a fact. Back when Jordan stopped winning some voters literally said he was ineligible in their minds. Same stuff happened to LeBron.

Westbrook should never have won.

??? Say want you want but be okay with being flat out wrong. Westbrook outright deserved his MVP, had a great year.

Westbrook had a great statistical year for a team that only got 47 wins and were knocked out of the playoffs in a gentleman's sweep.

Harden and Kawhi had better win-shares, were more efficient, and won more games. Westbrook was a gimmick MVP, he literally told Steven Adams and the other bigs on the team to stop grabbing defensive boards when he was back so he could get more boards. His coach wanted him to get the ball closer to half court to speed up the game but he didn't want to.

Westbrook is probably the best athlete his size to ever play in the NBA but he's an idiot and he's selfish.