NBA Cup 2024 (Congratulations NBA Cup Champion Bucks)

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Who wins the NBA Cup Championship?

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Post#101 » by RyanDunn_Muse » Tue Dec 3, 2024 7:14 pm

Broadcaster wrote:I just realized that there’s a massive ten day gap between regular games while they do the cup final. Doesn’t that seem incredibly excessive? Quarter final wraps on the 11th and then there are three days without games before the semis and then two more off days before the final. You don’t have that much space between games even in the playoffs. I understand Silver wants it to matter but this seems like it stiffs the viewers for the sake of trying to make their stupid tournament seem more important than it is. It’s not that important. It means nothing. Just let us watch basketball.


NBA will add 2 games to everyone's schedule once knockout round teams are determined.
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Post#102 » by bwgood77 » Tue Dec 3, 2024 7:48 pm

Your advantage to missing the tourney is an easier schedule. The Cavs had their losses in the right games if they want to avoid needlessly playing tougher teams.

For me it would be nice to see the Suns make it and win it obviously, but on the other hand, if they get in, they have to likely play teams like OKC, GS, HOU and BOS.

So if the Suns, for example, get in off a tiebreaker, they may end up playing HOU and OKC instead of maybe like UTA and POR.

In the west, the playoff seeding at the end of the year will likely come down to 1 game or tiebreakers for seeding after the first few seeds.

Of course if you can get to the championship game in the cup, it's great, even if you lose...since that loss doesn't count on your record but you'd have 2 wins against good teams to help with later tie breaker purposes maybe.
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Post#103 » by Deivork » Wed Dec 4, 2024 1:09 pm

NBA Cup Knockout Rounds Schedule

Quarterfinals

Tues., Dec. 10 | Magic vs. Bucks | 7 ET | TNT
Tues., Dec. 10 | Mavericks vs. Thunder | 9:30 ET | TNT
Wed., Dec. 11 | Hawks vs. Knicks | 7 ET | ESPN
Wed., Dec. 11 | Warriors vs. Rockets | 9:30 ET | TNT

Semifinals

Dec. 14 (Las Vegas)

Championship

Dec. 17 (Las Vegas)
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Post#104 » by knicksfan974 » Wed Dec 4, 2024 4:47 pm

Knicks Vegas favorite to win. Let's goooo
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Post#106 » by ITYSL » Wed Dec 4, 2024 6:43 pm

Awesome set of first-round matches.
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Post#107 » by bwgood77 » Wed Dec 4, 2024 6:44 pm

Nothing like NBA playoffs in December!
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Re: NBA Cup 2024 (Knockout Round Dec 10-11) 

Post#109 » by Triple M » Fri Dec 6, 2024 6:50 am

These are actually fun natch ups

Bucks/Magic to hot teams both won 8 of 10 games
Knicks/Hawks seems always to be fun

OkC/Dal probably a WCF preview
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Post#110 » by rolling_91 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 5:36 pm

bwgood77 wrote:Your advantage to missing the tourney is an easier schedule. The Cavs had their losses in the right games if they want to avoid needlessly playing tougher teams.

For me it would be nice to see the Suns make it and win it obviously, but on the other hand, if they get in, they have to likely play teams like OKC, GS, HOU and BOS.

So if the Suns, for example, get in off a tiebreaker, they may end up playing HOU and OKC instead of maybe like UTA and POR.

In the west, the playoff seeding at the end of the year will likely come down to 1 game or tiebreakers for seeding after the first few seeds.

Of course if you can get to the championship game in the cup, it's great, even if you lose...since that loss doesn't count on your record but you'd have 2 wins against good teams to help with later tie breaker purposes maybe.


That’s right. Not only is there a lack of incentive to win this tournament it’s actually detrimental to the winner and beneficial to the loser. Consider the case of the 2 leading teams in the Eastern Conference like you mentioned. The Cavs get knocked out of the NBA cup early and as a result are then scheduled to play Washington and Brooklyn. The Celtics get eliminated and are then scheduled to play Washington and Detroit. Had either team advanced, they would have had to play Orlando, Milwaukee, New York or Atlanta. Then consider the real scenario where the home court advantage throughout the playoffs comes down to one game. Home court advantage being a significant variable in the playoffs. That is one example of the real repercussions of this NBA Cup.

Last season after the 2 finalists went all out to win this tournament, both went on long losing streaks. The Pacers lost 6 out of the next 7 after the NBA cup and the Lakers went 3-10. And so you tell me, what is the incentive to win this tournament? Cash? For multi millionaires? Pride? There is more pride in a college team winning the Maui Invitational or the Alaska Shootout than an NBA team winning this cup. Adam Silver can use the full power of the NBA to sell this tournament but the truth is in the details.

Since it’s strictly a cash game and thus more important to the reserves than the starters I had a simple idea to make this NBA cup interesting. Make it a tournament for the backups on each team. The backups play most of the game but to make it interesting, let the starters play 1 quarter. But that quarter can only be the 1st 2nd or 3rd quarter. So before the game, unbeknownst to everyone beforehand each team would inform the refs which quarter their starters will play. So the game would involve some strategy while also revealing the overall strength of each team’s roster. I’m not going to get into the minutiae of how it would work, it’s just an idea that I had that seemed interesting to me.

But yeah, this tournament gets an F from me.
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Post#111 » by bwgood77 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 10:43 pm

rolling_91 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Your advantage to missing the tourney is an easier schedule. The Cavs had their losses in the right games if they want to avoid needlessly playing tougher teams.

For me it would be nice to see the Suns make it and win it obviously, but on the other hand, if they get in, they have to likely play teams like OKC, GS, HOU and BOS.

So if the Suns, for example, get in off a tiebreaker, they may end up playing HOU and OKC instead of maybe like UTA and POR.

In the west, the playoff seeding at the end of the year will likely come down to 1 game or tiebreakers for seeding after the first few seeds.

Of course if you can get to the championship game in the cup, it's great, even if you lose...since that loss doesn't count on your record but you'd have 2 wins against good teams to help with later tie breaker purposes maybe.


That’s right. Not only is there a lack of incentive to win this tournament it’s actually detrimental to the winner and beneficial to the loser. Consider the case of the 2 leading teams in the Eastern Conference like you mentioned. The Cavs get knocked out of the NBA cup early and as a result are then scheduled to play Washington and Brooklyn. The Celtics get eliminated and are then scheduled to play Washington and Detroit. Had either team advanced, they would have had to play Orlando, Milwaukee, New York or Atlanta. Then consider the real scenario where the home court advantage throughout the playoffs comes down to one game. Home court advantage being a significant variable in the playoffs. That is one example of the real repercussions of this NBA Cup.

Last season after the 2 finalists went all out to win this tournament, both went on long losing streaks. The Pacers lost 6 out of the next 7 after the NBA cup and the Lakers went 3-10. And so you tell me, what is the incentive to win this tournament? Cash? For multi millionaires? Pride? There is more pride in a college team winning the Maui Invitational or the Alaska Shootout than an NBA team winning this cup. Adam Silver can use the full power of the NBA to sell this tournament but the truth is in the details.

Since it’s strictly a cash game and thus more important to the reserves than the starters I had a simple idea to make this NBA cup interesting. Make it a tournament for the backups on each team. The backups play most of the game but to make it interesting, let the starters play 1 quarter. But that quarter can only be the 1st 2nd or 3rd quarter. So before the game, unbeknownst to everyone beforehand each team would inform the refs which quarter their starters will play. So the game would involve some strategy while also revealing the overall strength of each team’s roster. I’m not going to get into the minutiae of how it would work, it’s just an idea that I had that seemed interesting to me.

But yeah, this tournament gets an F from me.


Yeah, look how tight the west is. Playoff seedings and play ins will likely be decided by like 1 game. Phx lost the tiebreaker to get in to Dallas. So now Phx gets to play Utah and Portland and Dallas plays OKC and HOU or GS. So if Dallas goes 0-2 and the Suns 2-0 and the Suns finish one game up in the standings, that would kind of be ridiculous.

Though I don't expect Phx to finish ahead of Dallas regardless. The Suns didn't even have to lose to lose the tiebreaker...they just had to not win by as much. They were both 3-1 but it came down to the last night and Dallas was playing Memphis and behind the whole game and Phx played SA. Dallas game back to beat Memphis and get in on pt differential.
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Re: NBA Cup 2024 (Knockout Round Dec 10-11) 

Post#112 » by Ssj16 » Mon Dec 9, 2024 3:18 am

CoP wrote:Awesome set of first-round matches.


All teams are interesting in their own right and it's a good mix of up-and-comers as well as bonafide stars.
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Post#113 » by Hoop Hunter » Mon Dec 9, 2024 8:27 pm

I like the Mid-Season Tourney, Cup whatever. Even though my suck@ss team is not in it this season, I'll still watch the games.

Some exciting matchups. Even though at the end of the season it'll mean nothing.
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Post#114 » by MrGoat » Mon Dec 9, 2024 11:52 pm

OKC may have just won their first round game and I have some potentially very welcome news about tomorrow's game for Thunder fans. I'm hearing PJ Washington has been downgraded to questionable tomorrow against the Thunder
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Post#115 » by UglyBugBall » Tue Dec 10, 2024 6:11 pm

rolling_91 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Your advantage to missing the tourney is an easier schedule. The Cavs had their losses in the right games if they want to avoid needlessly playing tougher teams.

For me it would be nice to see the Suns make it and win it obviously, but on the other hand, if they get in, they have to likely play teams like OKC, GS, HOU and BOS.

So if the Suns, for example, get in off a tiebreaker, they may end up playing HOU and OKC instead of maybe like UTA and POR.

In the west, the playoff seeding at the end of the year will likely come down to 1 game or tiebreakers for seeding after the first few seeds.

Of course if you can get to the championship game in the cup, it's great, even if you lose...since that loss doesn't count on your record but you'd have 2 wins against good teams to help with later tie breaker purposes maybe.


That’s right. Not only is there a lack of incentive to win this tournament it’s actually detrimental to the winner and beneficial to the loser. Consider the case of the 2 leading teams in the Eastern Conference like you mentioned. The Cavs get knocked out of the NBA cup early and as a result are then scheduled to play Washington and Brooklyn. The Celtics get eliminated and are then scheduled to play Washington and Detroit. Had either team advanced, they would have had to play Orlando, Milwaukee, New York or Atlanta. Then consider the real scenario where the home court advantage throughout the playoffs comes down to one game. Home court advantage being a significant variable in the playoffs. That is one example of the real repercussions of this NBA Cup.

Last season after the 2 finalists went all out to win this tournament, both went on long losing streaks. The Pacers lost 6 out of the next 7 after the NBA cup and the Lakers went 3-10. And so you tell me, what is the incentive to win this tournament? Cash? For multi millionaires? Pride? There is more pride in a college team winning the Maui Invitational or the Alaska Shootout than an NBA team winning this cup. Adam Silver can use the full power of the NBA to sell this tournament but the truth is in the details.

Since it’s strictly a cash game and thus more important to the reserves than the starters I had a simple idea to make this NBA cup interesting. Make it a tournament for the backups on each team. The backups play most of the game but to make it interesting, let the starters play 1 quarter. But that quarter can only be the 1st 2nd or 3rd quarter. So before the game, unbeknownst to everyone beforehand each team would inform the refs which quarter their starters will play. So the game would involve some strategy while also revealing the overall strength of each team’s roster. I’m not going to get into the minutiae of how it would work, it’s just an idea that I had that seemed interesting to me.

But yeah, this tournament gets an F from me.


You're way over thinking this. The NBA cup is going to be incredibly important in future discussions around player and team legacies. You don't need extra incentives for teams to compete for the NBA championship. The cup is going to be close behind going forward in prestige.
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Post#116 » by bwgood77 » Tue Dec 10, 2024 6:31 pm

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rolling_91 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Your advantage to missing the tourney is an easier schedule. The Cavs had their losses in the right games if they want to avoid needlessly playing tougher teams.

For me it would be nice to see the Suns make it and win it obviously, but on the other hand, if they get in, they have to likely play teams like OKC, GS, HOU and BOS.

So if the Suns, for example, get in off a tiebreaker, they may end up playing HOU and OKC instead of maybe like UTA and POR.

In the west, the playoff seeding at the end of the year will likely come down to 1 game or tiebreakers for seeding after the first few seeds.

Of course if you can get to the championship game in the cup, it's great, even if you lose...since that loss doesn't count on your record but you'd have 2 wins against good teams to help with later tie breaker purposes maybe.


That’s right. Not only is there a lack of incentive to win this tournament it’s actually detrimental to the winner and beneficial to the loser. Consider the case of the 2 leading teams in the Eastern Conference like you mentioned. The Cavs get knocked out of the NBA cup early and as a result are then scheduled to play Washington and Brooklyn. The Celtics get eliminated and are then scheduled to play Washington and Detroit. Had either team advanced, they would have had to play Orlando, Milwaukee, New York or Atlanta. Then consider the real scenario where the home court advantage throughout the playoffs comes down to one game. Home court advantage being a significant variable in the playoffs. That is one example of the real repercussions of this NBA Cup.

Last season after the 2 finalists went all out to win this tournament, both went on long losing streaks. The Pacers lost 6 out of the next 7 after the NBA cup and the Lakers went 3-10. And so you tell me, what is the incentive to win this tournament? Cash? For multi millionaires? Pride? There is more pride in a college team winning the Maui Invitational or the Alaska Shootout than an NBA team winning this cup. Adam Silver can use the full power of the NBA to sell this tournament but the truth is in the details.

Since it’s strictly a cash game and thus more important to the reserves than the starters I had a simple idea to make this NBA cup interesting. Make it a tournament for the backups on each team. The backups play most of the game but to make it interesting, let the starters play 1 quarter. But that quarter can only be the 1st 2nd or 3rd quarter. So before the game, unbeknownst to everyone beforehand each team would inform the refs which quarter their starters will play. So the game would involve some strategy while also revealing the overall strength of each team’s roster. I’m not going to get into the minutiae of how it would work, it’s just an idea that I had that seemed interesting to me.

But yeah, this tournament gets an F from me.


You're way over thinking this. The NBA cup is going to be incredibly important in future discussions around player and team legacies. You don't need extra incentives for teams to compete for the NBA championship. The cup is going to be close behind going forward in prestige.


If the Cup really becomes important for player and team legacies, that would be ridiculous. I saw someone last year list LeBron's resume after it and list IST MVP or Cup or whatever along with MVPs and championships and was laughing.

Many of the players and teams won't take this seriously. Winning one round in the actual playoffs is a hell of a lot more important than winning this meaningless midseason cup. Cup MVP is about the equivalent of Conference player of the month.
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Post#117 » by Edrees » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:47 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
UglyBugBall wrote:
rolling_91 wrote:
That’s right. Not only is there a lack of incentive to win this tournament it’s actually detrimental to the winner and beneficial to the loser. Consider the case of the 2 leading teams in the Eastern Conference like you mentioned. The Cavs get knocked out of the NBA cup early and as a result are then scheduled to play Washington and Brooklyn. The Celtics get eliminated and are then scheduled to play Washington and Detroit. Had either team advanced, they would have had to play Orlando, Milwaukee, New York or Atlanta. Then consider the real scenario where the home court advantage throughout the playoffs comes down to one game. Home court advantage being a significant variable in the playoffs. That is one example of the real repercussions of this NBA Cup.

Last season after the 2 finalists went all out to win this tournament, both went on long losing streaks. The Pacers lost 6 out of the next 7 after the NBA cup and the Lakers went 3-10. And so you tell me, what is the incentive to win this tournament? Cash? For multi millionaires? Pride? There is more pride in a college team winning the Maui Invitational or the Alaska Shootout than an NBA team winning this cup. Adam Silver can use the full power of the NBA to sell this tournament but the truth is in the details.

Since it’s strictly a cash game and thus more important to the reserves than the starters I had a simple idea to make this NBA cup interesting. Make it a tournament for the backups on each team. The backups play most of the game but to make it interesting, let the starters play 1 quarter. But that quarter can only be the 1st 2nd or 3rd quarter. So before the game, unbeknownst to everyone beforehand each team would inform the refs which quarter their starters will play. So the game would involve some strategy while also revealing the overall strength of each team’s roster. I’m not going to get into the minutiae of how it would work, it’s just an idea that I had that seemed interesting to me.

But yeah, this tournament gets an F from me.


You're way over thinking this. The NBA cup is going to be incredibly important in future discussions around player and team legacies. You don't need extra incentives for teams to compete for the NBA championship. The cup is going to be close behind going forward in prestige.


If the Cup really becomes important for player and team legacies, that would be ridiculous. I saw someone last year list LeBron's resume after it and list IST MVP or Cup or whatever along with MVPs and championships and was laughing.

Many of the players and teams won't take this seriously. Winning one round in the actual playoffs is a hell of a lot more important than winning this meaningless midseason cup. Cup MVP is about the equivalent of Conference player of the month.


I dont know, but I think the Boston celtics are about to blow their team up for not advancing in the NBA Cup. IT's real serious business.

:lol:

Of course nobody takes the cup seriously. They are just regular season games. It's more of a fun distraction, like you said similar to Western or eastern conference player of the week
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Post#118 » by GANGSTERDOG » Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:56 am

bwgood77 wrote:
UglyBugBall wrote:
rolling_91 wrote:
That’s right. Not only is there a lack of incentive to win this tournament it’s actually detrimental to the winner and beneficial to the loser. Consider the case of the 2 leading teams in the Eastern Conference like you mentioned. The Cavs get knocked out of the NBA cup early and as a result are then scheduled to play Washington and Brooklyn. The Celtics get eliminated and are then scheduled to play Washington and Detroit. Had either team advanced, they would have had to play Orlando, Milwaukee, New York or Atlanta. Then consider the real scenario where the home court advantage throughout the playoffs comes down to one game. Home court advantage being a significant variable in the playoffs. That is one example of the real repercussions of this NBA Cup.

Last season after the 2 finalists went all out to win this tournament, both went on long losing streaks. The Pacers lost 6 out of the next 7 after the NBA cup and the Lakers went 3-10. And so you tell me, what is the incentive to win this tournament? Cash? For multi millionaires? Pride? There is more pride in a college team winning the Maui Invitational or the Alaska Shootout than an NBA team winning this cup. Adam Silver can use the full power of the NBA to sell this tournament but the truth is in the details.

Since it’s strictly a cash game and thus more important to the reserves than the starters I had a simple idea to make this NBA cup interesting. Make it a tournament for the backups on each team. The backups play most of the game but to make it interesting, let the starters play 1 quarter. But that quarter can only be the 1st 2nd or 3rd quarter. So before the game, unbeknownst to everyone beforehand each team would inform the refs which quarter their starters will play. So the game would involve some strategy while also revealing the overall strength of each team’s roster. I’m not going to get into the minutiae of how it would work, it’s just an idea that I had that seemed interesting to me.

But yeah, this tournament gets an F from me.


You're way over thinking this. The NBA cup is going to be incredibly important in future discussions around player and team legacies. You don't need extra incentives for teams to compete for the NBA championship. The cup is going to be close behind going forward in prestige.


If the Cup really becomes important for player and team legacies, that would be ridiculous. I saw someone last year list LeBron's resume after it and list IST MVP or Cup or whatever along with MVPs and championships and was laughing.

Many of the players and teams won't take this seriously. Winning one round in the actual playoffs is a hell of a lot more important than winning this meaningless midseason cup. Cup MVP is about the equivalent of Conference player of the month.

Speak for yourself. This Cup is arguably way more important than a Finals MVP or Larry O’Brien
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Post#119 » by Edrees » Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:17 am

GANGSTERDOG wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
UglyBugBall wrote:
You're way over thinking this. The NBA cup is going to be incredibly important in future discussions around player and team legacies. You don't need extra incentives for teams to compete for the NBA championship. The cup is going to be close behind going forward in prestige.


If the Cup really becomes important for player and team legacies, that would be ridiculous. I saw someone last year list LeBron's resume after it and list IST MVP or Cup or whatever along with MVPs and championships and was laughing.

Many of the players and teams won't take this seriously. Winning one round in the actual playoffs is a hell of a lot more important than winning this meaningless midseason cup. Cup MVP is about the equivalent of Conference player of the month.

Speak for yourself. This Cup is arguably way more important than a Finals MVP or Larry O’Brien


They should rename the Cup MVP trophy the "GOAT player trophy" so you know whoever wins it is the GOAT.
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Post#120 » by tbhawksfan1 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:10 pm

I'm sure that almost all the players getting xtra time off instead of playing basically meaningless games are chill with it

This in-season interruption to the regular schedule is also responsible for some of those back to backs we love so much

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